I have a budget of around  28,000/-   

I want only a monster truck  . I shortlisted TT MTA4 S28 and Traxxas T-maxx 3.3

I had a tmax 2.5 before, but dont know about the new model.

I need a durable, easy to maintan, fast, Big and durable engine truck.
I dont mind a pull start, and i am good at tuning too  .

Only trouble is engine life, and durability factor.
I have future plans to modd the truck with intey and RPM but for now i would run it stock so need a durable truck .

Savage is outof budget and i dont like revo.

I intend to do both bash and race, but nothing much serious.
Please suggest me the better choice and the possible issues that i might face  ...

Any suggestion/reply is whole heartedly welcome... 

http://www.traxxas.in/products.htm

http://traxxas.com/products/models/electric/3908emaxxbrushless

http://traxxas.com/products/models/nitro/4907tmaxx33

Whats that for?? I know what i am talking about....I have checked these links a thousand times before

Since you are considering a t-maxx which has the same engine as my Revo like to share my experience. I haven't experienced any problems in tuning it, but i've had the truck for only about 2 months. The idle is good and so is the performance. Will post a video soon so that you can take a look. Hope it helps

BTW thanks for ur consideration, i want no ELECTRICS!!!

Quote from: shashank on May 18, 2011, 01:27:30 PM
Since you are considering a t-maxx which has the same engine as my Revo like to share my experience. I haven't experienced any problems in tuning it, but i've had the truck for only about 2 months. The idle is good and so is the performance. Will post a video soon so that you can take a look. Hope it helps

But 3.3 is a small engine, so obviously it wont last long compared to a 4.6 engien.
Although it will rev more and will be faster but will wear out early if i am right.
I think the prob wont start before 2 gallons...

Both Revo and Savage are out of your budget. Need not waste your time choosing between the Tmaxx and S28. Just buy the Tmaxx. Its the best value you can get in that price band.

Actually no need for this thread. The choice is just too simple.

Both trucks are not extremely reliable like the Savage. They have their share of issues. Replace plastic parts on the Tmaxx if you are looking at extreme bashing. S28 is a gas guzzler. Heavy weight, but reasonably tough.

Tmaxx wins as per me, since its comes as a better package. But look out of a new engine after some time. It acts cranky after a while.

So in short which is more durable..?

I thought TT was less tough than trx

What durability are you referring to? Plastics, engine, gears?

There is nothing like TT less durable than TRX. I have owned both and both held well. But small issues occur. Forgot about all small issues. You buy a 20L car and you will have issues.

Durability lke parts breaking on jumps, gears, and engine life.

Quote from: himank on May 18, 2011, 01:29:11 PM


But 3.3 is a small engine, so obviously it wont last long compared to a 4.6 engien.
Although it will rev more and will be faster but will wear out early if i am right.
I think the prob wont start before 2 gallons...

From whatever i've read on other forums, though people have had small niggles no one has complained about the durability of the engine or it dying after a few gallons. Like ajo said the choice is straightforward. T-maxx makes the most sensible choice. All the best with your decision !

Thanks but its physics, smaller engine revs more, wears out early

Quote from: himank on May 18, 2011, 01:45:28 PM
Thanks but its physics, smaller engine revs more, wears out early

I've never heard of a 3.3 wearing out faster than a 4.6 or 5.9. There are 2.5cc engines that still run fine. Check the international forums for a clearer picture. It all depends on how you Run in, Run it, and After-Run it. Take good care of the engine and it will last you several gallons.

As far as the budget is concerned if I were you I'd get the best car I can for the money. Just the car. Perhaps over a couple of months I can get the rest of the stuff to make it RTR. Imagine its a kit and will take you time to build.

Or, you could save up for a li'l longer and get the car you really want. Not the one you can only afford. Its more satisfying that way.

But still everyone knows Ttr 4.6 is far more durable than trx 3.3

Well its a call you've got to take. If you have apprehensions about the trx3.3, wait for a bit and get something you're comfortable with.

ALL Nitro engines will eventually need an overhaul. They require routine maintenance. And whichever engine you get, it'll still last you several gallons before you need a proper overhaul. I'm sure your 2.5 still chugs along fine. So that should be enough testament to the 3.3's quality

But a bigger engine is more fun

i have been in touch with a LHS who had a revo 3.3 for  himself. He later started selling TTr, and he told me that 3.3 is a lot more faster but wont be able to life more than 8-10L since its very small and car is big.
I have seen 4.6cc engines doing over 20L.

Quote from: himank on May 18, 2011, 07:58:04 PM
i have been in touch with a LHS who had a revo 3.3 for  himself. He later started selling TTr, and he told me that 3.3 is a lot more faster but wont be able to life more than 8-10L since its very small and car is big.

I dont know who builds stories like this. This is purely nonsense.... Even a crap chinese engine will live longer.
I personally drove my Revo for more than 15L before I sold it. It still had great punch when I sold and it is running normally with the new owner.

It all depends on how you break in the engine and maintain it. I didnt cut any corners with break-in. Yes, it became a little messy to tune after some time, but no issues if you know what you are doing. Even the TT engine wears. I retired the same engine which came on my RC8 after a year of operation.

Hmmm.. You mean ten litres? or ten gallons? I don't think the TRX 3.3 will need an overhaul every 2.5 gallons man. Maybe that guy messed up his tune or something. If its ten gallons then I don't think you should worry cause that would mean a year or more of use assuming you run it every weekend. A full service and overhaul every year or so is not too much IMHO.

A gallon lasts me two months easily. But I don't run it every weekend.

Catch up with the ton of members on here with Revos and T-Maxxes. They love the 3.3!

Quote from: mail4ajo on May 18, 2011, 08:07:05 PM
It all depends on how you break in the engine and maintain it. I didnt cut any corners with break-in.

Those are the magic words!

It finally depends on how you maintain it. A guy may have used it for 20L but if you dont maintain the engine it will die soon.

So thing about it and get what you really want and not what others want you to have

After what this guy said i did a full research on the Trx 3.3. Seriously haven't come across any thread in the first page of google search results where users had to dump their engines after a few gallons/litres because of the engine being faulty. It was ALWAYS the users at fault. Not properly tuned truck, lack of maintenance and also wrong fuels costed them their replacements. Do not go by hearsay, get in touch with some real owners who know how to maintain nitro engines and get their opinion on it. Anyway whichever truck you get, i'm sure it'll serve you well if you don't abuse the engine

and as far as part breakages go - everything breaks. just depends on how you use it.

for example:-

i have a couple friends here who recently got RC's and we all bash together.

My E-Maxx BL
A Revo BL
A Exceed Mad beast
A savage flux.

Now till now the only parts that have been damaged on my emaxx is the front skid. landed straight on a protruding rock.

as for the savage and the mad beast both of them broke on the same jump. landed on the rear end from a height of approx 15 feet. both broke their rear shock towers. and the savage bent a shock shaft, broke an arm and ripped out one of the battery boxes..

the revo on the other hand is handled extremely rough. the guy pretty much does not care. and till date has never broken a part.

does not mean the savage is any less than the revo or the mad beast. just depends on how u can handle ur RC.

I have done 4 gallons ( 16 litres ) of fuel on my revo 3.3. It still runs fine...
I'm sure traxxas doesn't make engines which will last for 8-10L.
If so they would have been out of business by now!! Lol

It is just a highly biased opinion of folks who don't like Traxxas.

This only misguides a beginner, with such blind and biased statements!

Quote from: jayanth on May 19, 2011, 07:48:36 AM
It is just a highly biased opinion of folks who don't like Traxxas.

This only misguides a beginner, with such blind and biased statements!

Its just your perception,
I love traxxas, but got confused due to the LHS guy....that dosent mean you should tell that i am misguiding and fooling beginers.Kindly refrain from making such personal remarks.

I have always said that i have heard of the trx 3.3 being les durable, i never said it is less durable...

Ok, lets chuck it,

Coming back to topic again,

Build quality of which truck is better.