EPP Foamie MINI V unbreakable type fun plane

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b4ggu

Hi Guys,
I have been having quite a lot of fun with this plane in our local park last year and would promise any of you building/ flying it will have loads of fun. We have even had dogfights with it at our flying site.
If  you ask Sai he can supply the kits or just foam, it is a cheap and cheerful foamie. Here are the comments from one of the forums with some images..

"I purchased a v-trainer some time ago now, and I have to say it is a beginners dream. The build was a doddle even for a complete novice. The instructions were very comprehensive and informative giving clear concise instructions with a picture back up for the complete numbty (like me). Tip- you can download the complete instructions from the flying wings website, this offers the pictures in full colour. Although, I have to confess I did get stuck on one particular section, but one swift e-mail soon sorted it out (excellent after sales). The finished plane was a light but a strong airframe that looks like it could take a lot of punishment. Though, I was somewhat apprehensive about the little motor. It didn't look big enough to me.

I have never tried rc flying before, so before I took to the sky I decided that I would invest in a flight simulator (phoenix) to a least get some basics right. After about one week of playing with the simulator with my 10-year-old son, the time had come for the v-trainers maiden flight.

The weather was fine with a slight breeze. I pointed the plane into the wind and up the power to full. With a firm chuck the plane leaped out of my hands and began to steadily climb. With a little left rudder and up elevator the plane slowly turned to the left. I WAS FLYING. In no time at all I was doing figure eights, loops and low slow fly passes. My worries about the motor size were just that 'worries'- plenty of power. It will fly quite happily on half power and still climb.

Time to give the controls to my son. To my amazement he was better than me. He is that good in fact, that for Christmas I have ordered the reflex flying wing for him. He is now hooked on flying. I am not complaining because I am too and we get quality time together.

As for the V-trainer- it has now had about 20 outings. There are a few chunks missing out of the bottom of the fuselage where the ground was frosty and hard. It has had a few nose heavy landings and wing cart wheels and survived without a scratch. However, just in case full spares are available. If you want to learn how to fly and want a cheap robust model then the v-trainer is the one for you. It is stable, very forgiving and allows plenty of time to correct mistakes and best of all it bounces.


The Mini V is a 65% scaled down version of V-Trainer.

At 27 inches (690mm) wingspan its perfect for the back of the car for the
crafty flight at lunchtime or for the suitcase for your holidays.

The tiny brushless outrunner provides plenty of power for outdoors and
indoors in a larger sports hall.

Its very very stable and would make an ideal mini trainer, its also incredibly tough.

You will want one !!

Specification;
Wingspan 27 inches (690mm)
Flyingweight 145 grams

You get;

> EPP foam parts
> Laser cut ply wing mounts
> Laser cut ply horns
> Carbon fibre parts
> Adjustable servo adaptors
> Hardware pack
> Picture manual >
Power system sold separately;  12A brushless speed controller
Micro brushless motor; HiModel 9 Gram Motor or similar with prop adaptor & prop GWS 4025


asmgssl2007


b4ggu

If you email and call Bob or Richard Flying Wings on ; 0044 1908 615 163, they will sort you out.

http://www.flyingwings.co.uk/ 
They have sent sheets of EPP to Ramesh Tahlan in New Delhi by courier and I dont see why they wont be able to send to you.
Email;
Tell them Deepak from Leicester gave you their details....

http://www.flyingwings.co.uk/store/product_info.php?products_id=897 

V-Trainer 3 Channel Super Deal Kit    £64.95
         
   
   
   Over 5000 sold !

The V-Trainer is one of the UK's best selling trainers.

It was designed to be stable, very tough and quick to assemble.

This is the latest version with a slight longer wing and new ply parts.

Kit includes:
> 100% EPP Airframe
> Full Hardware Pack
> Carbon fibre parts
> Picture manual
> 2808 1800kv Brushless motor & Prop
> 18Amp speed controller

Required to Finish
> 2 x 8g servos
> 1500-1800 3s lipo Battery
> Lipo compatible charger
> 4 Channel radio with elevon mixing

Technical details:
Wingspan: 1140mm
Airframe Weight: 235 grams
Flying Weight: 465 grams (approx)

anwar

Quote from: asmgssl2007 on September 27, 2012, 08:55:15 PM
How can I get in Saudi Arabia..please help me

Can you get in touch with member "samlikespad"..., he lives and flies RC in KSA (at least some part of the year). He should be able to give you pointers on how to order RC stuff into KSA.

Send him a PM :  http://www.rcindia.org/profile/?u=3464

Hangar : Please see my introduction.
RC India forum and me : About this forum.

Stephen

Hi Anwar,

Just to add ,here in KSA one needs to have a license from Saudi Aviation club,that membership will cost you 600 Riyals a year.Once a flyer has that its kind of very safe to fly in saudi.One will never ever have issues with importing stuff also.If parcel gets stuck,just send the officer the License and Iqama and thats it. ;D

System in saudi as long as Rc is concerned ,its very systematic and hassle free.I am flying my Trex 550 and also had a Outrage 90  and i fly in the city of Dammam

anwar

Wow. 600 riyals is steep !  We pay 200 yearly here in Qatar.  It was only 100 until last year.

In any case, it is good that there is a venue to be "official".  Lack of the such official confirmation is pretty disconcerting in the Indian context :(
Hangar : Please see my introduction.
RC India forum and me : About this forum.

b4ggu

Flite Test : Delta Wing - Scratch Build ;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMeGqVGZcjA&feature=share&list=PLRE5tw2QlvoIuT94YRdRclx-rFG8QH4q_     
Published on 25 Jul 2012  Learn to build a swappable Delta wing! This Delta is designed for taking that next step in your RC flying offering the ability to do rolls, loops, inverted flight and more! The third instalment in the swappable airframes series is this Delta wing, designed with a unique KF airfoil step design. The KF step on this Delta is created with a folding technique that will offer for a clean scratch built design!   Flite Test - FT Delta - SBK – BUILD  Published on 28 Apr 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRoU14QrCQo&feature=share&list=PLRE5tw2QlvoIuT94YRdRclx-rFG8QH4q_

- See more at:  http://www.flitetest.com/articles/DeltaScratchBuild#sthash.G07JjOmG.dpuf
http://assets.flitetest.com/article_files/FT-Delta-Swappable-TILED-PLANS_1360345579.pdf




Hi Flyers........ I would like to share this latest addition to my fleet scratch built in not very long time ..
FLITE TEST DELTA with removable POWER POD;
Just to expand..I did not use Dollar Foam / or foam board.
I had some charcoal DEPRON 3mm sheets lying around so I covered one side with packaging tape, turned it over, stuck "SCRIM TAPE" (plaster board joining self adhesive glass-fibre mesh tape) sprayed the side with CARPET ADHESIVE and pasted another sheet over it. So the overall thickness is about 7 to 8mm. As the packaging tape held the Depron together, it folded over without ripping after removing 1 cms gully from the bottom sheet and baring the glass-fibre mesh on the underside. 

FT Flyer Swappable - Scratch Build by FliteTest;
http://flitetest.com/articles/FT_Flyer_Scratch_build
Tiled Plans;  http://assets.flitetest.com/article_files/FT-Flyer-Swappable-TILED-PLANS_1360987128.pdf
You Tube Video; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrnL1q1TBMQ&feature=youtu.be
      
                                                                   Found a calculator program (link below) and assuming the shape is a  (FT DELTA 30% bigger)delta with 78 span, centreline chord 46 and tip chord 0, this puts the cg about 210 back from the front tip. Allowing for the fact that we don't quite go to a tip, that puts the cg about 180 back from the motor mount ie about 39% of the centre line chord back from the motor mount.     http://fwcg.3dzone.dk/
Looks like my C &G should be approx 12 .5 to 12.8cm from motor mount ; 30% of 33// or ;      Wing span 60  Root; 35.5 (- 3)    tip cord; 4.5     Sweep; 30    So C and G; 12.2 from motor-mount
And on 30% bigger Delta; Wing span 78
Root Cord ;46       Tip cord ;5.2     Sweep; 40.8 So C and G; 17.7 from motormount  or 21.2 from tip which is not there in this case.
Experimental airlines videos; Fuselage of tubes; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xafg-o83L94&list=PLRE5tw2QlvoIuT94YRdRclx-rFG8QH4q_&index=6
Wings;      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJZoqGHAIDE&list=PLRE5tw2QlvoIuT94YRdRclx-rFG8QH4q_&index=7         Basic wing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=karr67ZYho4&list=TLy2WZ67Klc6xtl_-iCK5JlOtF3bhM8Y98     ARMIN WING CONSTRUCTION
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz_TrYmlM2I&list=PLXJD6Heu7H5_OcX_yP8DuTH8HaeejyNAW     SYNAPSE WING BUILD
Wing Covering with packing tape; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNqFnzmm0vI&list=TLP1HJ5MGke725MeW2Z9rYyB5IcRTCfW0P 
Links to Landing Gear and 350 watts motors.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idproduct=44487

Hobbyking Bixler and Bixler 2 Landing Gear Set w/Tailwheel ( UK Warehouse)
$3.81   With this optional landing gear set you can easily convert your Bixler or Bixler 2 into a model capable of rolling take-offs and landings. Both main undercarriage and tailwheel assembly are included. All hardware is included, installation only requires slight modification to install. Can be fitted in about 5 minutes.
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http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__29063__Turnigy_D2836_8_1100KV_Brushless_Outrunner_Motor_UK_Warehouse_.html

Turnigy D2836/8 1100KV Brushless Outrunner Motor (UK Warehouse)  $12.28 from UK / $12.22 from HongKong THIS IS APROX £8.00
ADD APROX £3.50 postage.. from UK Warehouse.
REVIEW;    Turnigy D2836/8 1100KV Brushless Outrunner Motor.......Spec.; Battery: 2~4 Cell /7.4~14.8V  RPM: 1100kv  Max current: 18A
No load current: 1A  Max power: 336W  Internal resistance: 0.107 ohm
Weight: 70g (including connectors)  Diameter of shaft: 4mm
Dimensions: 28x36m   Prop size: 7.4V/11x7 14.85V/7x3
Max thrust: 1130g    PRODUCT ID: D2217-8-1100
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__28403__D2826_6_2200kv_Outrunner_Motor_UK_Warehouse_.html
D2826-6 2200kv Outrunner Motor (UK Warehouse)D2826-6 2200kv Outrunner Motor   Specs: Rpm/V: 2200kv Shaft: 3.17mm Voltage: 2S~3S (7.4v to 11.1v)     Weight: 50g 
Watts: 342w     Max Current: 34A     ESC: 40A    Suggested Prop: 7x4(2S) ~ 5x5 (3S)    Mounting Hole Bolt Circle: 16mm or 19mm
PRODUCT ID: D2826-62200    $10.49 UK//$9.48 Hongkong       Aprox £6.85 ADD £3.50 Review;    and 


b4ggu

#7
  " Looks like my C &G should be approx 12 .5 to 12.8cm from motor mount ; 30% of 33// or ;      Wing span 60  Root; 35.5 (- 3)    tip cord; 4.5     Sweep; 30    So C and G; 12.2 from motor-mount
And on 30% bigger Delta; Wing span 78
Root Cord ;46       Tip cord ;5.2     Sweep; 40.8 So C and G; 17.7 from motormount  or 21.2 from tip which is not there in this case."

MORE IMAGES.....

Had to modify a bit as the motor was not powerful enough to carry 450 grams (350 model +battery100gms)  EMAX 2822 now installed .... reasonable flight now... Could do with a bit more OOOmph!!!  ..I like my models overpowered than underpowered

b4ggu

Here are the parts you will need and an image of what else you can build and use the same power pod;

b4ggu

Sorry Guys... This Delta has so far been a disappointment...
Too sensitive and a horrid flyer.. broken 2 props already.. Just cannot get it to fly right. Will be replacing the motor with a more powerful one, cutting the ELEVONS smaller.

I think MAKO 3D Delta is much better fun and will be building that soon..
Check it out here;

http://www.rcindia.org/electric-planes/mako-3d-delta-depron-aeroplane-by-flying/msg171461/#new


Mike Pembertons 'MAKO' 3D DELTA (DEPRON) MODEL AIRCRAFT - Also on You Tube by Flying Marcus1;





'MAKO' DELTA – 26.5" (673mm) Wingspan x 26" (660mm) Overall Length - Electric Power.

This small electric delta type model uses 'elevon' control, i.e. it requires mixing of elevator and aileron channels to provide pitch and roll control, it also uses a separate rudder channel to control yaw.

Finally it uses a motor channel to control speed of electric motor. Hence, a minimum RC system of 4 channels is required!

It is a very simple model to build and capable of virtually any aerobatic manoeuvre, including, 3D stunts, prop hanging, etc. (But are your piloting skills good enough???)

1)   Construction Matl:    Depron: 6mm thick, (Use 3mm thk for trim, as required).


2)   Adhesive:      For Depron: Use UHU por, (polystyrene glue) or Epoxy Resin.


3)   Motor Mount:      Plywood: 55mm dia x 4mm thk min, (I Used: 6mm thk).


4)   Wing Spar:      Aluminium Channel: 6mm x 6mm x 1mm thk x 600mm lg.



5)   Fuselage Stiffeners:   Balsa: 10mm x 10mm triangular section, (not really necessary).


6)   Electric Motor:   A2822-14T, (1450Kv, 150 Watt) Brushless Outrunner Motor.



7)   Speed Control:   Brushless, (Basic 20A Minimum ESC, 2A BEC, 2-3S LiPo).
       

Cool   Propeller:      APC-E, (Electric) 7"x 4"SF, (Slow-Fly) C/W Inserts.


9)   Servos (3-Off):      EMax  ESO8A, (8.5g, 1.8Kg/cm, 4.8V-6.0V, Nylon Geared).


10)   Battery (LiPo):      3S LiPo, 25C Min, (3S, 11.1V, 800mAh Min-1800mAh Max).   
(I Use: Overlander - 3S, 30C, 1300mAh, 68mmx33mmx20mm).
(This Provides: 10 Minute Flight Time, Leaving 20% Capacity).

11)   Centre of Gravity:   C of G position - Measure from rear face of motor mount!
(Use: 6.7/8" (175mm), move further back , (i.e. increase this distance) if you desire extreme aerobatics, prop hanging, etc).

b4ggu




Here is a video...

More details an "PHISH" or "MAKO" on a seperate thread..; http://www.rcindia.org/electric-planes/mako-3d-delta-depron-aeroplane-by-flying/msg188661/#msg188661