now the situation is pointless , the guy got his easy star , sanjay has given his stuff, everybody knows everything of everybody now ,
may be sometime we should give some time to the situation

May i ask you why you sir replied in the harsh way to whom you had a nice deal for free ?

Greetings to all members,

I am nobody to comment here nor have the right amount of maturity to do so but being a member to this forum since more than a year and receiving continuous ample amount of knowledge and assistance from the Senior Members I see this as a disrespect from Sumit's side. I understand bro (Sumit) that situations might be tough for all of us at times but that would not imply our inconsiderate behavior at any cost.

These senior members which you are referring to, are the Pillars to this forum.

God Forbid even if I get name calling, teasing, indecency of any kind from here due to any reason, then too the resultant of my thoughts and feelings for this family will be only gratitude and nothing else as they have done something which is immeasurable and as deep as an abyss for me and all of us here.

I am sure many, many people might be having rhyming thoughts and feelings for RCI family.

Do not mean to offend anyone by my words and nothing implicates double entendre in any sense.

Even after looking at all these comments i tried to ignore this and walk away...
"Hehe nice replies.. Saw it after long time... Enjoy flying kiran.. "

Still i got reply
"Really? After how long? Or rather, as long as you took to deliver the model. Only now we see you roaring like a tiger, before silent as a mouse"

Was this required? If he did rite thing thn yes i did rite thing as well!

Sumit now will you please stop this kind of nonsense talking...Behave because some of the members are very senior then you as well..do apologize and be a Gentleman..this not the way to talking everybody...Keep your reputation as before...as no one is enemy of yours..keep it simple..as am telling you the people should not remember you as bad person rather you do apologize and let them feel that you also good and mature person..Think before saying..

I think people might be referring to your excessive delays in delivering the promised item as well as lack of response to the multiple inquiries that Kiran made. I don't think anyone simply wants to be against you without reason.
Maybe an explanation/apology (if applicable) to for these two points followed by your statement "Enjoy flying Kiran" would have given a respectable and happy ending here.

As for the argument that this incident is nobody else's business except the buyer and seller, i think that is not true since you have used a public forum for your sale, so a public response to your actions, achievements or failures is also inevitable. So ideally it would only make sense to face and address them.

Hoping to see an amicable ending to this thread rather than another thread with an inconclusive closure, unnecessarily vilifying one person and giving arise to an argument which has drifted way beyond the original issue. It helps nobody actually. 

@ SUMIT--Buddy, forget rest of all things, may be you were going in some harsh situation. But you should have explained it, if possible.

I really felt some bad here was, that you should have not said the those thing about Sanjay sir, he was the one who gifted you the model.
Sometime things happen in different way, but one should not loose temper like that.

See that still they want that you should, make some positive note and move on along all of us......
I believe that your apology will grave all bitterness...

vilifying one person....REALLY!!!!

I hope all you guys are not joking.

One guy may be by mistake called one of the very very senior member of this forum who is just not an another aermodeller but a very well established and accomplished entity in his own sphere of life whom we all gusty, myself, at our age and service including VC one of the old man of the forum address him as "sir" with a mark of repect for what he is,  but this person chooses to imply him a dog that too after taking his geniune warm hearted good will gesture of a free gifts from him at his time of need.

Now after one full year of callous attitude just by sending across one delayed model which he sold if he thinks he has set all in order and  he chooses to stand by and defend his error of commission of calling someone dog (at this juncture its very difficult to call it an error of omission) by further adding uncalled for insult upon insult with his incorrigible unacceptable behaviour with all the others who tried to put some sense into the situation and made a Royal Jack Ass of himself for entire forum of India to see.

Now who cares who is asking appology to whom, what is there for everyone to read is going to be there for eternity. Yes the parties involved may even forgive this person after his appology ( appology which i doubt) then what....

If this person continues to think he can change any of this with his smarty endless rhetoric so be it. He can continue to make a royal fool of himself.

Many such earlier specimens have just vanished after making utter fool of themself with their sound of whelps.  Yes I repeat whelps. Ofcourse that person was a fool to think of it as his roar which he will realise only after few days was actually sound of her whelps.

Gusty I agree with you. unless you throw stones after stone into the puddle of muck till such time it becomes a level road that puddle will remain and grow larger causing discomfort to all. So members happy throwing stones into this puddle till it vanishes leaving only a smooth road or transforms itself into a smooth road.

@Sundaram: I guess my choice of words for wrong Apologies for the same! I intended to say everybody bashes up the one guy who somehow always chooses to be willfully ignorant of why everybody is pissed at him/her.

And someone got called a dog?! Whoa! I think i missed that post. It is beyond my understanding how rhetorics, defiance and name calling makes anyone feel right and justified. 
My prolonging this topic into further debate definitely won't help either. I hope Sumit realizes that he could have handled this very differently and its never to late to do damage control.

@Ajay my earlier post was not at all intended for you in particular in any way but was in general for the audience.  if it implied in any way for you my sincere apologies. Like you rightly said none of this going to change anything for anyone but Sumit. I hope sumit  realizes that and what and how he could have handled it differently.

My name calling of the earlier specimens and associating sumit too was only to make sumit realize what the person insulted with name calling feels. Nothing personal. Yes if I choose not to take back my words what now sumit feels about it.

What is mystifying is why he had to insult half a dozen more people who were only trying to give some sane advice

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Enjoy Back Bitching... Love to see you all pulling your own hairs... Good night baby.. Am enjoying... Thnk you alll.. neways i was not smiling since so many days... Now after looking at this guys condi am laughing like anything...!!! Love you... My Mistake that i thot of explaining... Carry on baby... 

Your Honour !! i rest my case i sincerely apologize to you Sumit, for believing that it is possible, i was so, so wrong

@Sundaram: of course not! Never perceived anything offensive in what you wrote.
I must admit that Kiran has a fantastic amount of patience!
I have a few suggestions to make which i guess should be aptly posted on the "Improvements to RCIndia" thread.

what if mr anwar or any other play as  a mediator like paypal in doubtful deals (if any one is new or have not done any deal across the forum or any side party require any assurance) 

I am amazed at all the seniors wasting their time and effort on this thread. Why can't you recognise a lost cause and let it pass? I'm sure you've all got better things in life to do. So does Mr. Anwar, no wonder that he has not intervened and taken any action. Officers and a host of other gentry being taken for granted by a cad and a boor - what a joke!

Your pontification and outbursts may have some effect on normal human beings. Not in this case. You can go blue in the face with your righteous indignation and the vicarious wagging of your index finger - he is just showing you his middle finger with temerity and extreme callous audacity.

Take a walk and get a life Guys. There are other threads that deserve your worthy attention.

Likewise VC 

Dear Sumit,

I am half Punite myself. I have to be there in Pune every year. Now I am really.....curious to see you in person. I will surely trace your whereabouts this year in Pune.  Now please don't go hiding when I come looking for you.

I sincerely hope you continue smilling against all odds in your life. odds because of which you think you are entitled to your actions.  

Sir, if this person was 'normal' and if I were a resident of Pune, I would have sought out his residential address and dealt with him accordingly - mano e mano. Neither of the pre conditions being valid, I let it pass.

We have dealt with many rotten eggs on this forum in the past - false identities, blank envelopes, gender benders et al - this one is the nadir of all degradation.

Hats off to you Mr. Nathwani. We old timers have so much to learn from you, after all we represent an era that has passed. If you are a thumbnail of the generation to follow, God help us all. I sincerely want to believe that you are an aberration and that there is still hope.

I have no intention of thrashing anybody up if thats what you mean VC  . I have much better things to do in Pune than that.

  - NIKE!

Beware - he wears a tiger claw around his neck.

Quote from: sumitnathwani on September 30, 2013, 09:47:36 PM
... Now after looking at this guys condi am laughing like anything...!!!

after looking at your condition, i am laughing!

but seriously... please keep your psychotic rants of the forum turf...
you've sold your plane.. now go to sleep. it's past your bedtime.

Quote from: VC on September 30, 2013, 10:29:31 PM
If you are a thumbnail of the generation to follow, ...

VC
if he is (I hope he aint), i guess it is time for me to pass, fade away

sumit
is this your pretty face ? or some mistaken ident by me?

Gusty sir! where did you get those???!!!! awesome!

Sumit

it's time to up the ante ! Time to pay a courtesy call to Dynaesh Complex, Fergusson College Road intersection, and further

apologize, is your best course of action.

In the same breath let me ask you a question. Have you heard of Prisoner's Dilemma ?  why did WWI take place , John Nash ? Seen the movie "A Beautiful Mind" starring Russel Crowe. Why is there a nuclear arms race ? You are thinking why do you care.

Let me tell you son, it is called Game Theory. Think about this "Hurt yourself to save yourself"  "Loose to win" , sounds paradoxical? learn to play this game, you will be a winner (applicable to all, who wish to take up Game Theory in their life)

I didnt want to interfere in this topic, but anyway. I sent quite some PM's to sumit asking him to apologize and he still hasnt.

..please do apoplogize mainly to sanjay sir and all others that you have hurt.

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thanks neil for understanding..