Re-Made quad. Somethings wrong.

Started by parichya.gautam, November 14, 2014, 09:20:52 AM

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parichya.gautam

I just bought new stuff and tried to re-make the quad but IDK, it won't fly. See the video below and please help me in knowing what is wrong ?

Link to the video:

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It tends to move towards the right side.

I've done a receiver test and the values are fine.
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Which flight controller are you using? If it a KK 2.1, I would recommend doing an ESC calibration and a sensor calibration. Is self-levelling on? Also, what sort of setup are you using (motors, ESCs, etc.)?

parichya.gautam

Im using the KK2.1 board with 1.9FW version.
I did the sensor calibration ( put it on a leveled surface and calibrate )
Havent done the ESC calib ( how to do it ) ?
and yes the self level is OFF.
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Motors are the Mystery 2212 1000kv
ESC are again Mystery 30A ( have brand new SimonK but unable to use them as cant solder the bullet connectors to them :( )
props are 10x4.5
battery is 2200mAh 25c 3s
and yes , the X600 frame
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SK1701

I think the ESC calibration is the problem. Try this. And MAKE SURE TO TAKE THE PROPS OFF. (Caps intentional)

ashimda

Check your motor connections, make sure you have them plugged into the kk in the correct order. If you dont have bullets, solder them directly.

SK1701

This video may help with the KK board setup. Also, what do you mean that you can't solder the bullet connectors to the ESC?

sooraj.palakkad

follow steps,
1) make sure the ESC connection to FCK are in order .(refer connection diagram of KK)
2) correct props are put in correct motors, ie; CW to first motor, CCW to second motor, ... if you can't check it like that, just run the motors, and check whether all the props push air to the ground, if any one is turning the opposite way, you can't make it fly.

after the above steps done,
3 )calibrate your ESCs, again refer to KK board manual.
4 )calibrate sensors
5 )try to fly... if the quad tries to flip over, again go to step one, you must have done something wrong in first steps.......
6 ) even the quad must have some tendency to twitch .. but this can be adjusted by trimming transmitter channels - normal twitching is okay...

google for KK2 manual.
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parichya.gautam

OK, so what happened here was the ESC calibration helped a bit .. as in the quad did get a few cm in air but them started going towards the south side while tilting.
the problem. I thought resetting the board could help ( fresh start ) . The board did reset and now the esc won't calibrate ( gives continuous beeping when i try to calibrate and the 2nd motor from top doesn't work )

Cant solder as in I have the SimonK ESC and the bullet connector but no soldering gun
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When you say that the motor doesn't work, do you mean that it does not spin at all? Try arming your board and powering up without props. Check if the motors spin. I read that continuous beeping may mean that the throttle is not at zero when you power up. In your case, I am not sure what it could mean. Maybe you should check all your connections again. In the worst case, try another reset or reflash the firmware. The tilting is natural until you tune your PID gains unless it is really extreme.
You can buy a good soldering iron online. 30-50 W watts should be enough and Soldron is a good Indian company. I got their 50W iron yesterday but haven't got a chance to use it. I have been using their 25W iron for electronics work and it is good.

EDIT: I think I found the problem. Your throttle channel may be reversed. Try another receiver test.

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and I dont think the ESC is being calibrated now : Series of events;
1> Throttle on full, TX ON
2> Board connected to power M1 ESC put in the first port ( was disconnected before )
, as i press b1 and B4 together .
3>Board shows " throttle 'something', hear 2 beeps.
4> Put throttle knob to zero ( buttons still pressed)
5> Hear 3 short and one long beeps ( one you get when you start the board from start and hear the ESC)
6> NOW, `when i arm the board and give throttle , the M1 doest rotate for some time , after few seconds i get a few beeps and then it starts to move.

what the hell is happening here ?

and yea, the receiver values are at zero.
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parichya.gautam

I just noticed . at 30% constant throttle the M1 motor keeps increasing speed , and that was the motor itself that didnt work ( i switched between to motors to see if its the motors fault or the M1 ports, and its not the motors fault. )


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sooraj.palakkad

well the throttle  is not yet calibrated.
pls refer the KK manual thoroughly.
and follow the procedures.
if throttle is calibrated properly , all the motors should start at same time.
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akhilzid

+ are you sure that the connections of motors, spinning directions of motor and direction of flight control board are correct?

please refer the attached image.

parichya.gautam

Yes yes , everything is correct. the ONLY issue that im facing here is that the M1 motor increases in speed on its own and rest stay according to the throttle speeed. how do i solve that > Ive calibrated my ESC for 5 tiimes now .
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You said that you got 3 short and one long beep while calibrating. Perhaps the M1 ESC is not calibrated properly. Your sequence of steps is not very clear. I would suggest leaving the main LiPo plugged in throughout. Just unplug the M1 wire as that is where the KK board receives power. Turn on the TX, put throttle on full. Hold buttons 1 and 4 before plugging in the M1 BEC and then follow the usual calibration process. When you say that Motor 1 increases in speed do you mean that it continuously accelerates or that it is faster than the other motors.

parichya.gautam

innially they're the same. then it increases and accelarates for some time then is stable at high speed
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That seems like a pretty strange problem. I think it has something to do with the way you calibrated your ESCs. Check your LiPo battery charge. Low charge can cause erratic behavior in the motor speed. How can you tell that it is faster? Is it a major visible difference or is your quad trying to flip when you take off?

akhilzid

can u post a video of that situation,

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sooraj.palakkad

one motor unnecessarily speeds up, huh ?
just check another ESC+motor with this motor 1 o/p of flight controller - to check is this a problem  of uncalibrated ESC or wrong Flight controller o/p .
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