CUSTOMS ORDER (everyone should keep )

Started by santhosh, October 27, 2010, 03:30:10 PM

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santhosh

I imported few RTF planes from china four yaers back, and the customs detained the parcel saying that there is potential to create serious security risk. but i never gaveup fought with the customs, finally i got the order from commissioner appeals and released the parcel after two years. a copy of the order is attached, i hope this will be of great help to the fellow flyiers planning to import RTF/ ARF planes.

[Admin Note]  PDF attached :  http://www.rcindia.org/myfiles/Customs_Order_RC_Import.pdf

asinghatiya

Congratulations and its really a useful document. Can you please upload a better resolution copy of the same.  :thumbsup:
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santhosh

will try to convert into  pdf and upload

flyingboxcar

You fought and persisted. However one thing which glaringly stands out from the order is that, initially you had declared these models as simulated/3D remorte controlled jet aeroplanes.
I beleive using the same terms as in the HS Code (i.e. reduced sized scale models) in the reply to call memo would have potentialy obviated the issue. I from personal experience can tell you that , every time I get a call memo this is what I mention.
BPut then your case very clearly points out that being on the right track and being persistent would yeild results.   
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santhosh

Quote from: flyingboxcar on October 27, 2010, 03:50:52 PM
You fought and persisted. However one thing which glaringly stands out from the order is that, initially you had declared these models as simulated/3D remorte controlled jet aeroplanes.
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i never declared myself that the models as simulated/3d remote controlled jet planes, it's the customs guys did that

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Quote from: santhosh on October 27, 2010, 03:30:10 PM
I imported few RTF planes from china four yaers back, and the customs detained the parcel saying that there is potential to create serious security risk. but i never gaveup fought with the customs, finally i got the order from commissioner appeals and released the parcel after two years.
way to go!! congrats!

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This is a little scary to me, I have just placed an order for a CB100 micro heli.  Please advise if I would face this hiccup? If so, please advise how to get out of it....

Help here would be appreciated.

medicineman1987

I didn't understand a word of it.. can somebody explain what the documents mean?
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anwar

Please send me the higher images to the address at the bottom left, I will do a PDF combining them all.
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flyingboxcar

Just a word of caution,
These letters though good to know, do not constitute an authority for release of your parcels which may have been detained. Each case would be unique and the customs authorities have the powers to deal with it accordingly. In case you go for an appeal this document along with the case law cited in the document would be of help to prove legitimacy of your claim.
In case there are questions regaridng your parcel, the best would be take the line of stand as in these documents and try and convince the responsible people that your claim is genuine. Showing this document would not work in most cases and at worst may even aggravate the situation.
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I agree with Capt. The best bet would be to act naive and convince them that you are genuine and dont have any other motive.

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anwar

Quote from: anwar on October 27, 2010, 06:54:02 PM
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tg

Or buy from the LHS who are well versed in this subject. Better for a few to handle these imports then every one attempting the same stuff. Surprising that bribes weren't asked or paid.

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ujjwaana

Quote from: tg on October 28, 2010, 11:55:32 AM
Or buy from the LHS who are well versed in this subject. Better for a few to handle these imports then every one attempting the same stuff. Surprising that bribes weren't asked or paid.

Even I would agree with Capt Flyingboxcar. Though there is NO clause in the Customs Exims to ban import of Airplanes, such a document would hardly help. The complete whims of the officer in charge would govern how  it goes. IT is not court justice where judgement from previous case are used as guideline.
Nevertheless its a great act of courage form your side. What the hell customs were doing with the package for 2 years!! AFAIK they auction/destroy confisticated items every year to free the holdup area!
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flyingboxcar

Quote from: ujjwaana on October 28, 2010, 01:32:18 PM[
Even I would agree with Capt Flyingboxcar. Though there is NO clause in the Customs Exims to ban import of Airplanes, such a document would hardly help. The complete whims of the officer in charge would govern how  it goes. IT is not court justice where judgement from previous case are used as guideline.
Nevertheless its a great act of courage form your side. What the hell customs were doing with the package for 2 years!! AFAIK they auction/destroy confisticated items every year to free the holdup area!

First point - If you classify them as Airplanes then this is a controlled item and you need various other permissions. As I said earlier, you need to speak the same language as in HS Code - i.e. reduced sized scale models
Second point - A ruling from High court can only be cited in that particular state, Supreme Court's ruling is applicable over all states.
Third point - If the item in question is under dispute/appeal they can not dispose it off whatsoever till resolution/disposal of dispute
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findvikas

You dont need to buy anything extra if you have Microsoft Office 2010. All office documents can save in PDF format.
Santosh, If you do not have Office 2010 then can you please send me the high res JPG files to convert in PDF?

laxmansuthar

Very good News for All of Us..great Going Mr Santosh..

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anwar

Here is the full file :

http://www.rcindia.org/myfiles/Customs_Order_RC_Import.pdf

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findvikas

Not good for a Microsoft Employee :) I can talk about benefits over any competitor product if you are interested.

findvikas

Anwar.. please modify the first post and give the link there.

anwar

That was done already, along with the post.  I had removed the earlier JPGs too.
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anwar

Quote from: findvikas on October 28, 2010, 07:42:53 PM
Not good for a Microsoft Employee :) I can talk about benefits over any competitor product if you are interested.

OffTopic, but we know of companies who use 350 OpenOffice installations, and 4 licensed MS Office copies ;) 

MS Office is only used by personal secretaries  and office clerks  to convert complicated documents to earlier versions of MS Office so that OpenOffice can open them without losing any formatting :giggle: 
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for sure we still have some species of dinosaurs living here :)