Help needed....Is this is good electronics for a biginner trainer...?

Started by amit_delhi, March 31, 2012, 11:52:27 AM

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amit_delhi

Dear Aero-modellers,

I need help in procuring electronics for my first trainer.
Are these items good for a basic plane..Please help. (I am going through each section of this forum but still not confident if this choice is Good or not)

1)   ESC - FLY PRO Seires 25A 2-4S Brushless Speed Control
     
2)   Motor - 1000KV Outrunner Brushless Motors W/ Prop adapter Type A2212/13
      Dimensions:27.5x30 mm
      Shaft diameter: 3.17 mm
      Weight:47 g
      Thrust : 1200gms     

3)   Servo - CORONA 12.5g/ 2.5kg/ .14 sec Metal Gear Micro Servo
      Size:   22.5X11.5X24.6mm(0.88"x0.45"x0.96")
      Weight:   12.5g
      Operating voltage:   4.8V~6.0V
      Operating speed:   0.14sec/60ยบ
      Stall torque:   2.5kg.cm
      Gear Material:   Metal
      Connector wire length:   215mm
      Temperature:   -20℃~+60℃

4)   Charger - Turnigy 2S 3S Balance Charger. Direct 110/240v Input

5)    Battery - ZIPPY Compact 1800mAh 3S 25C Lipo Pack
       These LiPos are really very slim and compact at the same time very efficient.
       Weight: 134g (including wire, plug & case)
       Dimensions: 106x17x34mm
       Balance Plug: JST-XH
       Discharge Plug: XT60

SunLikeStar

Please post some details of the plane you are building, over all the setup looks good  :thumbsup:

aviator

Think 9G servos are more than enuf if u r planning on a fomie.

amit_delhi

@aviator thanks, I am planning to get sunpack (coro) and build a model from that...could not figure out where I can find biofoam or high density foam in Delhi.

Swapnil

Go with coro if you can't find foam.  It's kind of easier to work with and lasts long.
The MG servos are ok with the motor you have chosen (I have both). Just take care of AUW and wing loading of your plane.

Swapnil

BTW, which plane are you planning to build?

amit_delhi

@swapnil thanks for your response. cant correlate MG servos with motor? metal gear servos are ok with this motor because of weight..? 

Swapnil

Right.  That motor can give sufficient thrust for carrying those servos.

Swapnil


Swapnil


amit_delhi

 :bow: any suggestions for a easy trainer made out of coro Swapnil?

Swapnil

Have you visited Spadtothebone? (www.spadtothebone.com/)
I tried a couple of conventional designs first but that didn't work out so well. Then I built a pizzabox (PBF) which flew good but was too agile for me as a beginner.

The first plane I did more than 10 flights with and could handle well was the ESPA3D (a 3D plane, can you believe that?! I guess I had too much simulator practice).

So, I'm not the right person to advice you about trainers! :)
Use the search box, there's loads of beginner-plane build logs here.

Good Luck!

amit_delhi

Availability of square PVC pipe or stick is the hurdle, I am searching for its alternatives easily available.

amit_delhi

Okay if I use aluminium U shape channel for fuse for spad..do you think this motor can provide enough thrust for that...?

Swapnil

PVC has a tendency to wobble. I use wooden sticks (beading sticks, used for furniture edges). You can reduce weight by drilling holes along its length. Wooden sticks are used in the original ESPA3D too.

I think aluminium would be too much! :)

Swapnil

See the 1st pic (f.jpg) in post #8 here:
http://www.rcindia.org/electric-planes/espad3d-coro-(another-3hr-build!)/

You can see the wooden stick. It doesn't go all the way to the motor or tail and has holes along the length.
(Oh, and that plane doesn't look so ugly anymore! It was just my young cousins back then. :) )

amit_delhi

http://www.rcindia.org/electric-planes/espad3d-coro-%28another-3hr-build!%29/

got this thread..!  {:)}

Soon I am going to make a build log thread...pls accept to be my Mentor in Chief.... :bow:

amit_delhi

In f.jpg of post number 8, there is the beauty flying high in the sky...cant see wooden stick there in that pic. these wooden sticks are called margins, and they are used as edges on 3/4Inch plywood. I have lying around 100 feet of these margins in 3/4inch and 1 inch size. that was surplus from the recent furniture work I got done recently. 

Swapnil

Err... sorry. That's a resized low-res pic. I was watching the original one on my PC when referring to it. You can still see the stick under the belly even though the holes can't be seen...

Thanks for the info on the margins :) . Our local carpenters call them something like 'beading' sticks. I've used a 1/2 in. one for the ESPA3D.

roopeshkrishna

Making an RC plane from straw board, ( Coro sheet ), is far easier.. go for a wingspan of 38 inch at least, and 7 inch chord.. a polyherdral will help to stabilize even more.. with a tappered edge.. a 1000 RPM motor with at least 200 Watt power, or 1400 RPM with 220 Watt, with a 9X6 and 8X5 will works nicely, with any 9 gram servos.. can use wooden reapers to reinforce, by stripping on a circular saw, in to 4mm X 4mm strips, will be great.. a 1200 mAh, to 2200 mAh battery will help.. all above took about two hours to make one.. a pusher in to same configuration helps to protect motor from a direct hit.. have some nice flights..  :thumbsup:
Phoenix.........

Swapnil

Quote from: amit_delhi on March 31, 2012, 04:16:55 PM
Soon I am going to make a build log thread...pls accept to be my Mentor in Chief.... :bow:

MIC? :)
Dude, I'm just a beginner like you! But I'll gladly help you with whatever I can. 

roopeshkrishna

Phoenix.........

Ahmad

Call Mr. Divya Puri, he deals in the items you need. He is Noida based, he would be a great help to you. His number is 9811963278.

varungarg

HI Amit !

We have made more than 65 trainer models using the same combo.The reason we use metal gear servo is it does not break during hard landing or a crash while a plastic gear servo breaks.And 3 gms extra on each servo hardly makes a difference as the motor is giving a nice thrust.
we make the high winger trainer models with ailerons or without ailerons(Polyhedral wing for stability) using 2mm and 3mm Plastic Coro sheet.I can send you the dimensions.
They fly beautifully and are very stable.
We use 3/4 inch Plastic Electric conduit or Pine wood as a spar and keep the airfoil flat at the bottom while folding the wing at the leading edge.
Very simple to make and will take maximum 4 hours of construction time.
I will post some photos of the trainer which we make.

All the electronics are readily available with me. All brand new and packed.
Can be shipped Immediately so that you can build your trainer asap.

Contact : 9881607277

varungarg

Also i have the basic accessories available at very very minimal cost :

3.5 mm gold connectors for the motor and ESC
XT - 60 or Deans Connector for ESC and Battery
1.8mm Push Rod Linkage connectors
Small plastic horns
Self Tapping Screws to mount the X motor mount to the firewall
Heat Shrink sleeves