Looking for beginner setup

Started by adyonfire4, June 22, 2011, 01:32:58 PM

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Swapnil

#75
Ady, so far I've been posting replies hoping that a senior would join in after seeing my inexpert 'help'. That hasn't happened yet, so here's what I have to tell you: before you get too exited with RC, please consider the following.

The only bad thing about this hobby is that it is expensive. It can turn out to be much more expensive if you are a beginner and start all alone. Help over the internet can only be in the form of links or suggestions. The best way to start is with a guide/ mentor around you (say from your college or local RC club). If you try doing it all alone you might end up damaging your stuff and give up.


Below is a list of things you'll require for a scratchbuilt:

1] Electronics:

1)   BLDC (+props +prop adaptor)
2)   Motor mount
3)   ESC
4)   Servos
5)   LiPo
6)   LiPo balancer-charger
7)   LiPo charger adaptor
8 )   4 Ch Radio
9)   6 to 8 NiMh cells for Radio
10)    NiMh charger


2] Building materials and construction tools:

1)   Coro and/or foam
2)   Stanley knife
3)   Hack-saw blades
4)   5min epoxy
5)   CA glue
6)   Packing tape
7)   Fibre tape
8 )   Reinforcements (carbon fibre, bamboo-sticks, kebab-sticks, metal wires etc)
9)   Nut-bolts

3] Following are the tools/ materials you will find handy and in many cases absolutely necessary:

1)   Digital Multimeter
2)   Power drill machine
3)   Hand drill (spring loaded)
4)   Soldering Iron
5)   Glue gun
6)   Nose-plier
7)   Flat plier
8 )   Hobby screw driver set
9)   Rotary tool (like dremel or angle grinder)
10)   Hot-wire foam cutter
11)   Hot-air gun
12)   Big geometry set
13)   Bench-vice

4] And these are the things you should have in spare:

1)   Propellers
2)   Servos
3)   Servo extensions
4)   Slicone wire and connectors
5)   Heat-shrink tubes
ETC.

(I would also recommend a good pain-relief spray and pain-killers for all the back-ache and headache  ;) :P)

Now, the total cost of these things is freakin’ high (at least  :Rs: 15,000). That is why people start with ARFs to avoid all the headache. If you still want to build a plane yourself, please make sure that you go through loads of build-logs and tutorials before starting.

Good Luck! 






Jatayu

@swapnil - That is an excellent listing of items needed to start scratch building :salute: :hatsoff: :bow:

@Ady - Now list out what all components from the above list u have acquired or have in possession already...
And i would suggest u to build a coro high wing trainer like the blue baby or similar and before that loads of practice on a simulator...
All the best :thumbsup:
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PankajC

Nope!!! this is certainly not an 'essential' list. I have a lot less and I am building and flying.

One thing you need most is the passion and patience.
Spektrum DX6i | EP Pusher Trainer | EP CUB |

Swapnil

It's certainly not an 'essentials' list. I used the word 'handy' for most of the extras. Only the electronics + build materials would do. But some of the listed tools make the building process easier for a young beginner with no direct guidance.

adyonfire4

Quote from: Swapnil on June 30, 2011, 08:07:40 PM
And, I'm not suggesting you to build the exact 'ESPA3D'. I posted the links to show you how easily you can build a plane out of coro.
First determine the dimensions of the plane using info from:
http://adamone.rchomepage.com/design.htm

Decide the wing area (and hence chord and span) according to the motor you are going to use.
For example:
For a 160-170 watt motor, wing area = 300 - 450 sq. in.
For a 300 watt motor, wing area = 400 - 500 sq. in.
etc....
Ok man i have been thinking hard and came to the conclusion that i will make espa 3d(that link you gave earlier) out of coro and help me with the site you stated.

C_P_ND

Hello folks

We i.e. my son ( he is 16)  and me ( I am an ancient :(  ) are looking to start this hobby - in the electrics side of things.

The way we see ourselves starting out is:

[Step 1]

Read as much as we can.

[Step 2]

Do the following concurrently/in parallel:

(1) Acquire a simulator to get a feel, albeit in a simulated environment.

(2) Acquire a Tx/Rx  -  Our line of thought is spend the money once to last us from begining the hobby to atleast an intermediate level. This means I do not wish to enter at the lowest level i..e 4 channels and then sell used and buy  anew. In this connection I have two questions:

{1} Is Turnigy Tx/Rx  VFM or Pennywise Pound foolish? I would appreciate inputs from Turnigy owners WRT to their satisfaction level with the quality of the equipment and it's repair-ability in India.

{2} Can this be used with FSM via a USB port?

(3) Acquire an ARF trainer or maybe attempt to build a trainer nd if we fail then buy an ARF trainer. Yes, we are aware a scratch build for an entrant is very ambitious and has higher probability of failure.

(4) Start scratch building after reaching a respectable level of flying skills if our initial attempt  at scratch building is a failure.

[Step 3]

When we have successfully concluded the above in say 2 odd years or so then look to progress towards better brands in equipment complexer builds etc.

Any critiques/inputs will be most welcome.

Thanks and Regards.

kakka_rao

@ady this is my cell no  9423145267 call me meet and get started

karandex

hi
i am thinking of mr moss, but is there any other alternative. i need something that will withstand the crashes.

also can rcforall guy offer that combo without the plane. i want to make something like towel or some other foam plane ( any suggestion on that).

karandex

i am a newbie, so i dont know at what scale the parts included in mr.moss are. i like to build lots of scrach build in future like nutball,towel and many more. so are these are parts up to scrach or any other parts i have to add to my order like spare props,extra battery,etc

karandex

#84
Quote from: naatumach on June 25, 2011, 10:46:22 PM
I know you want arf but i have no idea where you can find something in that price range

This is what i would recommend
...
...
If you go for the that one you'll need just a few more things, which i will not impose until you choose to make it.

should i got for this kind of setup or bite the bullet and buy mr moss for rs.8k

karandex

can some one pro please suggest some ecs,battery,prop,motor combo for planes.

these can include, slow park fliers to 3d.
for scratch build small to mid etc

or just give some info about how to choose stuff.

because the thing i wont like to do is wait for charge so i will go for bigger batteries and keep multiple batteries in loop.(if somebody is doing such a thing please say how.)

karandex

please some one suggest should i get mr moss or any other custom setup.i am not happy with some of the parts which come with moss kit like battery and charget etc. i can spend up to 10k but i need a good setup. this may include the plane or not. if there any cheap foam plane for sale please suggest one.if it include motor and prop, great.

just tell me a setup to start under 10k

theflyer

Well i am a begginer and would love to get a plane but the only problem i dont know which plane to buy
And i dont want to buy a plane from an american website as it might get stuck in the customs so please help me buy sending a few plane lonks and strings
Regards
Theflyer

aviator

The Flyer - Please be patient. You cannot become a RC superstar overnight.
All of us have waited long waiting for that right plane/ tx to be offered. I know that wait for a 15 year guy like you is hard. When I was of your age, i too, wanted the world to bring down everything i need, and that too, immediately.
Please take time and have patience. You will get a good plane and setup for sure.
Regarding your requirement, i strongly suggest going in for a 3 channel plane and that too a high winger (wings on top of fuselage). As discussed earlier over phone and PM, please wait till roopesh sir complete SUSAN, a perfect beginner plane.
I have seen people quitting this hobby after they broke their first plane in the maiden, not due to negligence or newbie experience, but only due to wrong plane selection. I myself ended up saying goodbye to this fantastic hobby for 1 year after i broke the first plane bought over ebay for around 6000 bucks in 2008-09.
Further, TX (transmitters) will be coming in stock by June 1st week ,as i understand, at various LHS (Local Hobby Shops). And its Mid may already.
In a nutshell, keep the eyes and ears open, do visit this forum regularly for updates.
And yes, have you contacted Vineet (Hobbysea) and SAI (RCBHARAT) for begineer planes. Try to buy a plane with larger wingspan and probably made of EPP for easy repairs.
Best of luck and welcome to the world of RC Hobby!!!!

Maha

i am base in ajmer and we have a small aeromodeling club at our school at Mayo, i am wonder what i must suggest to my father to buy? shd it be the Sharma model from jodhpur or the Tiger trainer?
there are concerns on battery life?
so i guess one can get extra battery?

what all can we ask our relatives to bring in from Australia?

i can thus buy some parts from here and get better components from Australia but they have customs issues that's the worry?

please could you suggest a trainer model which has an electric motor & is also a glider so that i don't have trouble landing it , from where to purchase and what budgets i must keep? i know i am gonna crash a few so spare parts will be my concern. pls can anyone notify me how much the trainer model costs?
thanks grateful  :help:


KIRAN_93

Please visit www.rcbharat.com they have a good beginner model sky surfer at very cheap price.

Regards

Kiran

kic567

hello every buddy, first thanks to organizer to start this forum,'m very interested in flying RC Plane, first i thought to build it that i can know about it well, now, 'm planning to get a RC Plane from USA through my friend plz suggest me in buying, 'm a very beginner to this field, and 'm interested in attending flying with you guys, so if you guys have any plan plz let me know thanks in advance.

prerna1409

Hi.
I want to buy a plane for someone who is a beginner. So i want a plane which would fly really well but will only require a basic set of skill levels. Also I don't want a plane which would take too long to put together or will be too hard. And finally my budget is not over 20,000 INR. So can someone please give me some suggestions fast since his birthday is really close by. I really need your help as I myself do not know the first thing about RC planes.

Also I have posted an image of the plane, I think its Tiger Trainer mk3. Can someone please tell me how it is?

Thanks for all your help.

theleabres

Hobbysea.com has a Slow Stick, RX ready.  It's a good trainer,

deepakkshr

Hello guys, i would like to know  which is the best foam model to begin with. Also please provide me the build info, what all i require to build one.


Thanks
Deepak

rockytechie

Hi Guyz,
I am wondering how do i configure the RCB7X of the real flight sim to fly heli's .. As of now i am able to fly planes in real flight ,but not able to fly heli's .. Is there a setting i need to change on the rcb7x.. I have followed the videos posted on the rcb7x topic for configuration for setup for the simulator..
Regards
Peter

Praveen M Patil

sir, can to tell simple steps of building rc helicopters

mukundh mahesh


rcrcnitesh

which is the best radio for begineers which is cheap
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