What makes a good beginner plane ?

Started by anwar, June 09, 2012, 04:54:51 PM

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anwar

Nice thread on RCU with a great PDF document on what are good (and bad) beginner setups including links to products.  Must be useful to all beginners.

Never knew about the Aerofly EasyFly4 sim until I saw the PDF.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_11109564/tm.htm

http://images.rcuniverse.com/forum/upfiles/418937/Hf98216.pdf
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theleabres

This is the foamie with which I learned how to fly.  It can go slow and when you're reayd it will do aerobatics.

Propfella

An easy plane to fly is usually a plane with a wing above the fuselage. A wing with a generous Dihedral (V shaped main wings) This gives the plane better stability. Many beginners start with just a rudder and elevator controls. Later they need Ailerons. Buy a plane with Ailerons and disconnect them and lock them in place. Then when you improve you can reconnect the ailerons and add another control. A plane which has the ability to fly slowly without falling out of the sky is a good choice plus a plane which can land slowly is much better. I'd advise a belly lander if you don't have a good surface to land on plus they are more forgiving when landing. A plane with a pusher prop setup is better to avoid breaking props if you land too steeply or nose over.

I've just been watching the plane in the video above. It would be ideal for a beginner but I certainly wouldn't be trying to fly the same way for some time after buying it. Although the landing was poor the flying certainly wasn't a beginner. A good choice though. As is the Hobbyking AXN and Bixler.

All the best  Stuart
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind."

theleabres

It took me a couple of days flying very slow with the stock brushed motor.  Because this GWS Cub basically flies itself it's  great learner plane and mpst will naturally get bored with it after a week.  That's when you can swap out motors and go crazy with it.  The brushless setup (weighs very close to stock setup) still allows to fly very slow (5 mph if you wish) but alos gives you the power if you want to learn loops, hammerheads, but the plane doesn't come with ailerons.

Propfella

Remember Theleabras,

Usually a plane without Ailerons can often be fitted with them simply by cutting them from the trailing edge of the wing as long as there is enough foam there to cut. I have a plane which had no Ailerons but it was a very quick job with a straight edge to cut both ailerons and flaps. The servos can be cut into the thicker part of the wing or even glued to the surface. The extra drag is minimal. If the foam is too thin it can always be thickened up with packing tape or similar.

As long as the CG is controllable, replacing motors for larger types can be fun as long as you remember to include a little right offset and a suitable prop is fitted. I have 2  Sky Surfers and one can do 100kmh and with a few minutes work the other will do 200kph simply by using a larger motor and prop plus repositioning the battery.

As long as the plane gives fun to fly it's a good one.  Best wishes  Stuart
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chiefsrinc

Cheap, Rugged (should not break easily or should be easily repaired), Easy to fly and very stable, pusher to avoid prop damage, well protected electronics, should be able to land itself and fly in small spaces. In my case this turned out to be the Multiplex Easystar - still flies after several nose crashes, broken tail etc. and is now 6 years old. Fin is held in place with glue and toothpick insert and fuselage has been chopped open multiple times for aileron, motor, prop mods.

Most of the plane is now held in place using scotch tape and Fevicol 5 min epoxy (instant glue works equally well on this one)

Upgraded now to ailerons, brushless and undercarriage. Planning to try with EDF. (see more at netsrinc.com)

Karanv

I am a total beginner and I am trying to convince my parents for a rc plane.if the allow should I take a 2 ch yard flyer or a 3 ch rc cub.both are at rc bazar.also are guillows like Trojan or lancer good for first timers .people call this a money dependent hobby.is it true

rastsaurabh

Yes Karanv,

This is a expensive Hobby..... If 10000/- is not called cheap.

To start this... ( below is applicable if you are totally newbie)

1. get a decent TX which can be hooked onto a PC for practice flying on simulator
1.5 search for a local company who are already flying at the field (typically necessary)
2. once you are through with takeoff and landing  either make or buy a plane
be prepared for harsh landings and breaking of model..... even before you have 10-15 min of flying.

It come a bit hard way .... more than cash you need to have very high motivation to continue...

all the best !!!

wingmanbunty

sir

   what is the practical way to calculate the grams of thrust any brushless motor with the propeller is producting with the max power applied to it..

i want to know measurement method....not talking about the perticular motor or propeller..
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PunchedGrunion

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Been in Rc flying for about a year. My dad recently started flying as well and I got him the Eflite Apprentice. In my opinion this is probably THE BEST TRAINER available. Its got a high wing, SAFE technology which allows the student to use 3 different modes beginner, interm and advanced. It does not allow the aircraft to over bank or climb or descent too much. Also has a panic button which gets you out of any danger as long as you have enough altitude. Also the simple but tough landing gear allows for take offs on even a rugged surface. This plane is by far the easiest plane I have to maintain and fly and transport. Definitely a lot better than the calmato i used to train on initially.  

K K Iyer


PunchedGrunion

@K K Iyer.    Yes the cost is a bit high compared to other trainers available in the market. But after having tried those my dad finds flying the apprentice the most enjoyable. This video convinced me to get it.


sanjayrai55

Fascinating handle, punchedgrunion

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PunchedGrunion

@ sanjayrai.   Lol.  Yup. Watch out for the grunion

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