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E revo 1/16 or Sparrowhawk XXT

Started by iamahuman, July 08, 2010, 03:49:34 PM

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mail4ajo

Quote from: ranchialex on August 26, 2010, 01:57:05 PM
The brushless e-revo can get close to 120kmph! Stock it will definitely bottom out on jumps but that's what skid plates are for :)

Are you referring to the 1/10 Scale E-Revo? I am yet to hear of a 1/16 Revo hitting that speed.

Also I hate these tall speed claims on RC cars. At 120km/hr, you are going only up and down. Hit half that speed on a track and you will know how difficult it is to see and control the car. Continuous high speed runs will see your power unit, tyres etc disintegrating soon.
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Divyam

+1 Mail4Ajo
My brushed motor wore out 2 months after running it up and down in the apartment complex... Also, that's nowhere as much fun as racing on a track...

The Mini Revo probably can hit that speed after major upgrades...
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ranchialex

AFAIK, you don't need to upgrade very much to make the e-revo go stupidly fast (of course crash it once at high speed and you'll be doing a whole list of 'upgrades'). I pulled the 120 number out from memory. It's actually 131! 82mph = 131kmph.

Video below. Basically run 2x 3s Lipos in serial on the brushless motor and look out!

If I had it to do over, I'd have gone for the mini e-revo (or the big e-revo had funds permitted)... but I'd run 'em in parallel for double the runtimes.

Into RC trucks (have an E-Maxx and Losi Micro T) but also looking at RC Planes.

mail4ajo

Did you notice the Power unit in the video? Its the Mamba Max 9000 series. No car can go slow on that damn combo, it must be outlawed...... Too much power for a 1/10, upto 6 cell lipo....  >:( Costs 190$.

Also the tyres are onroad foams possibly from a pan car. The stock tyres would have exploded at those speeds.

The only Traxxas stuff the car needs at those speeds are the suspension setup, gearing, wing and body to keep the car on the ground. ;D

The max I heard the 1/16 is capable with stock power unit and optional gearing is around 80mph (as per rctech).
*Mugen Seiki MBX7 with Novarossi P5 engine*
*Mugen Seiki MBX6T M-Spec with Novarossi P5 engine*
*Mugen MBX6 Eco with Mamba Monster 2200kv*
*HPI Mini Recon with BL system*
*Team Losi 1/24 rally*
*Team Associated RC8 onroad GT Car, Team Orion power system coming soon...
*Hobbyking 1/18 Rally Extreme BL*
*Sanwa MT-4 radio*
Previously owned - Mugen Seiki MBX6 M-Spec, Thunder Tiger MTA4 S50, ST-1, Sparrowhawk XB, HPI BAJA 5Bss, TRAXXAS REVO 3.3

ranchialex

The following review is the best I've found on the mini e-revo and the video (at the bottom of the page) shows how well it can handle in the right hands (clearly this driver is very skilled, I'm no where near as controlled as he is).

http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/article_display.cfm?article_id=1165
Into RC trucks (have an E-Maxx and Losi Micro T) but also looking at RC Planes.

ranchialex

Quote from: mail4ajo on August 26, 2010, 09:10:52 PM
The max I heard the 1/16 is capable with stock power unit and optional gearing is around 80mph (as per rctech).

Then we're agreed, as 80m/h is 128.7km/h. Did you mean 80km/h? Anyway you slice it, the e-revo is insanely fast, but handles great (see second video) and has lots of options (ie. running 2 batteries in parallel for double runtimes and controllable speeds).
Into RC trucks (have an E-Maxx and Losi Micro T) but also looking at RC Planes.

ranchialex

Re-reading the review (months later) I see the advertised 50m/h (80km/h) with series Y-connector... but that's with two stock nimh batteries I believe. Run lipos in serial and watch out :)
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iamahuman

How would the sparrowhawk fare against the slash 4x4 over time?(In terms of overall cost and performance)
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Divyam

You will end up wanting to upgrade your Sparrowhawk to get it to go ass fast and handle as well as the Slash..
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Walkera 5G4Q3
TechOne Angel
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Slash 4x4 (sold)

mail4ajo

Quote from: iamahuman on October 22, 2010, 06:07:15 PM
How would the sparrowhawk fare against the slash 4x4 over time?(In terms of overall cost and performance)
Cost, sparrowhawk will win, because the spares are cheap and not many upgrades available. Slash spares will be more expensive and you will find yourself upgrading the car with the countless upgrades.

Performance should be almost the same since both are basic 4WD, both dont have advantage of a center diff. Slash will be faster, I guess with the nice power unit. I have driven the 2WD Slash and XXT, didnt like both.
*Mugen Seiki MBX7 with Novarossi P5 engine*
*Mugen Seiki MBX6T M-Spec with Novarossi P5 engine*
*Mugen MBX6 Eco with Mamba Monster 2200kv*
*HPI Mini Recon with BL system*
*Team Losi 1/24 rally*
*Team Associated RC8 onroad GT Car, Team Orion power system coming soon...
*Hobbyking 1/18 Rally Extreme BL*
*Sanwa MT-4 radio*
Previously owned - Mugen Seiki MBX6 M-Spec, Thunder Tiger MTA4 S50, ST-1, Sparrowhawk XB, HPI BAJA 5Bss, TRAXXAS REVO 3.3

iamahuman

#35
Ajo,when you say that I will end up upgrading the slash,do you mean replacing broken parts or upgrading it performance wise?If I use 30C 5000mah 2s lipos,will I kill the XXT?I am pretty sure that the slash will be a monster with that setup.

And can  a guy with a stock XXT beat my slash if we take driving out of the equation?

And you said that the XXT will be cheaper overtime,if I do not do too many crazy things with the slash,would that be more economical?

And one more thing,what are the chances of resisting a 'fatal car killing'crash on the XXT and slash?I guess the slash will have a greater resistance to abuse.
"Chuck Norris once overcharged a lipo. Thank him for the Sun."

SSC LCG Slash 4x4.
JQ THE eCar.

iamahuman

So in short,could you just give me a total side-by-side review of the slash 4x4 and XXT in terms of costs,performance,service,customer support,longevity?Say x stars out of 10.
"Chuck Norris once overcharged a lipo. Thank him for the Sun."

SSC LCG Slash 4x4.
JQ THE eCar.

jrd5853

Hello everyone,

I recently bought the SparrowHawk XXT and I do love it!  I love the truggy idea where you can add street tires and get some good speed or add mud tires and sling some dirt. I upgraded the notor and servo to Castle Creations Sidewinder 5700kv and it is friggen rediculous.   HOWEVER............what I don't like is the limited hop ups and modifications available for it. With your other choice you have tons of cosmetic and performance upgrades available which is what having this hobby is all about....to make it your very own!  I do love it but if I had a "do-over" I would save for the E-REVO because it is already baddass out of the box and upgrades are limitless...check out www.youtube.com for videos

iamahuman

Thanks man.I've decided to let go of the XXT as of now.Maybe 2 years down the line,I might get its equivalent vehicle from TT.
"Chuck Norris once overcharged a lipo. Thank him for the Sun."

SSC LCG Slash 4x4.
JQ THE eCar.

traxxrc1

i would say, get your sparrowhawk XT/XXT some new motor and ESC, New LiPo batteries, steel spur gear, lower gearings, alum. shocks and turn buckles and this thing is like a PRO..>!!!!!!!
I'll be back.

traxxrc1

Quote from: jrd5853 on October 24, 2010, 01:16:45 PM
what I don't like is the limited hop ups and modifications available for it. E-REVO because it is already baddass out of the box and upgrades are limitless...

Dear,
Spares/Upgrades all depends on where you live, traxxas is deeply rooted in USA, wherein India thunder tiger is the most common and popular brand which is not so in US.
Traxxas india on the other hand stocks only limited spares and almost no optional parts. Even the stock parts are difficult to find with them.
I'll be back.

iamahuman

hmm.......you've got me thinking.My second car might be a TT in the next 2 years.But right now,due to quality I think I will go with traxxas.
"Chuck Norris once overcharged a lipo. Thank him for the Sun."

SSC LCG Slash 4x4.
JQ THE eCar.

traxxrc1

after traxxas dont buy an electric TT,
Also TT electrics are a crap....with stock elec.
Sparrow's are the best TT electrics,capable of handlind the massive BL power and extra abuse but only after a little upgrade
I'll be back.

iamahuman

My plan is to start with a slash and get an XT  or an equivalent brushed model.I'll try to get the sidewinder SCT for my slash and put the velineon in the XT.Then,the XT should be ready to go with 5000mah 2s 30c lipos.
"Chuck Norris once overcharged a lipo. Thank him for the Sun."

SSC LCG Slash 4x4.
JQ THE eCar.

traxxrc1

velinion is not way much behind from sidewinder, just a little bit slower, but cn make you reach speeds of 70mph, while with the sidewinder you can do 80mph, so not much difference.

i would rather suggest you to buy a slash and a 3S lipo 5000mah 45C, buy a sparrow XT/XB, get a high quality ESC(around 100A), and a good motor (near to 4500kV) and put it up on a 3S.
Both will be rocket
I'll be back.

iamahuman

I GOT THE SLASH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
"Chuck Norris once overcharged a lipo. Thank him for the Sun."

SSC LCG Slash 4x4.
JQ THE eCar.

traxxrc1

I'll be back.

iamahuman

"Chuck Norris once overcharged a lipo. Thank him for the Sun."

SSC LCG Slash 4x4.
JQ THE eCar.

jrd5853


iamahuman

"Chuck Norris once overcharged a lipo. Thank him for the Sun."

SSC LCG Slash 4x4.
JQ THE eCar.