More variety !

I forget the material used but its not tissue and is extremely flimsy. Have build small thermocole models earlier based on these and they are real good as chuck gliders - never tried out rubber band power though.

What is amazing was that some of them are with motors and servos !

I saw a model called Vapor in person at a hobby store recently and almost got it, except for the luggage restrictions.

http://www.hobbyzone.com/rc-planes-parkzone-vapor-rtf.htm

The guy at  the hobby store was flying inside the store, and did a loop inside the store !

Micro/Nano RC perhaps. But the ones with rubber-band power are free flight and do fly pretty good. Thinking of making one with cling wrap and 1 - 2mm carbon rods.

A locally built one would be fun to see !

And about the Vapor, the people who are on JR/Spektrum 2.4 have an advantage.  They belong to a series of planes/helis being marketed as "Bind and Fly", so they can use their existing radios, even though these are small RTFs with their own radio.

http://www.bindnfly.com/

http://www.bindnfly.com/Products/

anwar I'm surprised that u have not come across these indoor planes, truly great stuff  

PS: http://www.cloud9rc.com/indoorflying.asp

Thanks Didn't know about this source for tiny motors etc. Very cool.

In our RC circle, all indoor flyers use normal small foamies, and some have the Kyosho Minium series. They are pretty popular among the crowd here (but sort of expensive). Multiple planes in the series, including Pipers, Cessnas etc.

http://www.kyosho.com/eng/products/rc/lineup.html?series_index_id=100162&series_group_id=100070

http://www.kyosho.com/eng/products/rc/lineup.html?series_index_id=100177&series_group_id=100070

Not very beginner friendly in terms of the ability to withstand crashes, but great in the hands of someone experienced.  It is stable enough even for beginners, but crashing into the wall of an indoor arena would not be a good idea at all.

Here is a Minium advertisement video.

Some of these planes are like those single string and bamboo stick "violins/fiddles" that ppl sell on the roads (or at least used to years back). Only the guy selling those "violins/fiddles" can ever play them.

Nice analogy 

But it would be great to hear from anyone who has personally attempted anything similar.  Challenges, choices, aspirations and heartbreaks !

QuoteOnly the guy selling those "violins/fiddles" can ever play them.

true some time back i bought a heli (rubber band powered)from a road side seller, never was i able to fly it as good as the guy  

sahil

With regards to Vapour or vapor, I went and bought it thinking I will be able to fly it in the shop.
The beauty of this is that if I buy a spectrum receiver, I can bind it with the tx by holding down the right stick and moving it side to side similar manner as you guys are making the ASSAN modules communicate wih new ASSAN rx's.
Now this plane is not very easy to fly even the the local model shop guys is flying it like a treat. Simple electronics, construction is carbon rods with cling film. When I tried, 1st time took off and hit the wall, broke the prop, sent for a new prop, charged and took off again, BROKE another prop.
Took it outside, did manage to fly it in the shop car park, a slight gust of wind took it and smashed it on a fence.. BANG goes another prop. 

Since then, I have bought and replaced 3 more props but still cannot fly in a room even though it flies very well in a large hall or an indoor badminton court. The model shop guys are always flying it in the shop which bugs me even more.

Recently I sent for a Cessna from Hobby King in HK. This palm size plane comes with a infrared tx. It came in yesterday, I tried  to fly it but kept climbing into a loop. I need to get some blue tack at the nose and try it in a bigger space. This type of aircraft does not turn with rudders or ailerons but with thrust of motors. The principal of this is 2 motors on the wing one of which slows down to allow turns. Guys in our clubs have made  Depron models on balsa sticks and used the electronics of these and have been having fun.... Lets see how I do with mine..
More later.... Baggu

That would be fun to see a simple plane built from balsa using the electronics of these 

Do post some pictures of those, if you have access to them.

Quote from: b4ggu on September 26, 2009, 09:55:26 PM
When I tried, 1st time took off and hit the wall, broke the prop, sent for a new prop, charged and took off again, BROKE another prop.

If you are crashing into the wall and losing only the prop multiple times, that would indicate a pretty solid plane ?

Oh yes Anwar, it is very sturdy due to the carbon rods that flex at impact and the flying surfaces are all covered in thin polythene. A small rip in the wing was fixed by SCOTCH CLEAR "MAGIC" Tape as its extra clear and very light.

A very nice source for micro rc  stuff......

http://www.didel.com/Frames.html?MainFrame=News.html

They even have a documentation of making small props and ULS (ultra light slow fliers) as they call them some where on the site.

Hey Ankur, thanks for the site.
I have been on it .... and guess what these guys have a PARKZONE Vapour type of plane that does not need guys like you and me to hold the transmitter.
It flies itself in a small room, you launch it and catch it back...
Unbelievable, CHECK IT OUT

   


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DC Enterprises,
1037, 14th cross, 30th main,
Banashankari II Stage,
Bangalore 560070,
INDIA
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