Gimli Glider

flatspin_king · October 10, 2012, 10:15:51 PM

Don't know if this has been posted before - but I like watching air crash Investigations and came across this episode - for a change it showcases outstanding piloting skills. Enjoy

AEROVISHWA · October 10, 2012, 10:34:10 PM

discussed here:

http://www.rcindia.org/chatter-zone/light-aircraft-landing-in-cross-wind/

abhay · October 10, 2012, 11:26:10 PM

this is what youtube says:
"The uploader has not made this video available in your country."

I tried to change my country, but not working. Any idea to watch or download $:-\$

Bilal · October 10, 2012, 11:38:43 PM

@abhay: ''i tried to change my country''

video dekhne ke liye log kya kya nahi karte

anwar · October 11, 2012, 09:42:30 AM

http://www.rcindia.org/chatter-zone/missing-vimeo-for-a-month/msg103164/#msg103164

hyd_quads · October 11, 2012, 03:40:01 PM

I had posted about Air Crash investigation in the chatter zone.

Yeah, the Gimli Glider is one of my favourite episodes. The plane which is headed for some place in Canada (I guess the plane is a DC 9) runs out of fuel and loses both the engines. They are guided to land at Winnipeg, their nearest airport. But after realising that they can't make it till winnipeg, the pilot decides to land his plane at Gimli, where he had trained. But he later realsies that Air strip had been converted into a drag racing track... and the fun starts!

Did you watch the Helios air episode? It's the best episode I' EVER seen.

flatspin_king · October 12, 2012, 09:22:24 AM

Yeah I saw the Helios episode. Probably seen all of them by now - at least what's on youtube. There is one called "Impossible Landing" about the Sioux city crash. Another one is a BA flight where the pilot gets sucked out when the cockpit window blows out and is pinned to the outside of the plane only because of wind pressure - pretty amazing. Strange that people are having difficulty watching these youtube videos in India.

praveen · October 12, 2012, 10:27:59 AM

@hyd_quads plane was Boeing 767 ,it was very new in the fleet at that time and reason for fuel starvation ,fuel unit was in Kgs instead of lbs.
other best one is in 1988 TACA airlines (B737) makes emergency dead stick landing on the grass levee even without a scratch on the plane ! episode name is "No Where to Land" Season 11.

hyd_quads · October 12, 2012, 03:48:11 PM

I don't think it was a 767, anyway I don't remember correctly. But yes the reason was a simple error while converting the units.

Yeah, I have seen the TACA episode. Has anyone watched the 'kid in the cockpit' episode (Moscow >> HK)?

The New Delhi crash of two planes (IL-76 of Kazhakistan and a 747 of Saudi Arabia?) is also pretty amazing (although it reveals all our technical drawbacks to the world)...

praveen · October 12, 2012, 04:25:21 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider

kid in the cockpit is very old episode! season 3

hyd_quads · October 12, 2012, 04:37:37 PM

Yep, it's a very old one. I don't like the show's timings so I have it recorded in series and watch later, again and again and agian.

Vineet

praveen · October 12, 2012, 05:32:41 PM

i do it in youtube or torrent!

ujjwaana · October 12, 2012, 05:51:04 PM

Quote from: praveen on October 12, 2012, 05:32:41 PM
i do it in youtube or torrent!

You have the Episodes on HDD/DVD ?? I would like them to copy..

praveen · October 12, 2012, 07:53:26 PM

oh bhai backup hai yaar in hdd! upto season 11!

iamahuman · October 12, 2012, 08:37:54 PM

I'd love to have the episodes too. I really want to join you guys on a Sunday morning trip to the field....

raja_mastana · October 13, 2012, 08:55:19 AM

Quote from: abhay1290 on October 10, 2012, 11:26:10 PM
this is what youtube says:
"The uploader has not made this video available in your country."

I tried to change my country, but not working. Any idea to watch or download $:-\$

raja_mastana · October 15, 2012, 10:34:59 AM

Have a query -
suppose a aircraft has one engine on each wing.
During flight, if one of them fails - how can the pilot still fly it straight?
E.g. if left engine fails. wont the aircraft roll to the right?

AEROVISHWA · October 15, 2012, 10:41:35 AM

flying with one engine is a SOP in case of a engine flame out.... for the induced yaw.... some amt of opposite rudder will compensate for it....

raja_mastana · October 15, 2012, 11:18:47 AM

Hmm, so pilots use additional rudder inputs to control and fly the aircraft straight when there is only one engine working - thanks for this info

anwar · October 15, 2012, 01:24:14 PM

You have to do the same in dual engine/motor RC aircraft, and it is probably more common in those. I have test flown only couple of Multiplex Twinstars ever, and both required rudder input on the first flights. Even though the motors/props/ESCs are the same model/brand for both sides, their performances vary due to imperfections, and this required additional rudder "trim" for a hands free straight flight.

raja_mastana · October 17, 2012, 07:36:38 AM

Thanks Sir.
Did some googling and found the thing I was confused about is called asymmetric flight.

QuoteIt is important to understand that, although the yawing moment is the root cause of the
problem, on those airplanes with considerable slipstream lift, it is imperative to counteract
the roll with aileron in addition to controlling the yaw with rudder. If the yaw and roll are
not corrected, the airplane will spiral into the failed engine.

http://www.cast-safety.org/pdf/5_asymmetric_flight.pdf