INDIA BANS TOY IMPORTS (Not only from China but from everywhere else too!)

Started by chanvivek, June 18, 2009, 12:12:21 PM

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chanvivek

This was a piece of news I picked up from IndiaRC!! Bad News for us Indians!! Should start raiding all the hobby shops immdly if this is true!!

The latest notification has the word CHINA removed that means all countries as per the importer i was speaking to.
Here is the latest on the toy ban:

S.O. (E)          In exercise of powers conferred by Section 5, read along with Section 3(2) of the Foreign Trade (Development and Regulation) Act, 1992, also read along with paragraph 2.1 of the Foreign Trade Policy, 2004-09, the Central Government hereby amends Notification No. 91  /(RE-2008) / 2004-2009  dated 2nd March, 2009 as under:-

1.         "Import of 'Toys' appearing under ITC Codes 9501, 9502, 9503 of Schedule – I of ITC(HS) Classifications of Export and Import Items is prohibited up to 23rd January, 2010 and until further orders. However, import of toys accompanied by the following certificates shall be permitted:

rcforall

Chan ,
I read it in the papers today morning paper says  Mobiles without the tracking code , dairy products and toys  from China are banned .
I feel it is the original ban that continues , there simply cannot be a blanket ban on Imports of toys  from all countries as toys for hobby is small but for educational purposes they are required .

I think it is more of a noise factor that keeps coming back on IRC with Sunil over reacting and  everytime predicting the end of aeromodeling in India with every news  of  of the toy ban.

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anwar

Doesn't seem logical at all.  A blanket ban on all toys ?!?!?!  :o 

Must be one of those things that require a bit of "clarification", and after that the sun will continue to rise in the east.
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rcforall

Precisely  last time this noise was made but barring Kits for everything else  life went on as usual.

Yes customs can create problems in some cases but such things happen in any case and have to be taken in the stride.

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chanvivek

Yeah.. Lets just hope this turns out to be one of those rumours!!

- Chan

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rcforall

I still think components will not be too badly affected .
I think the issue will be that China would have protested the earlier ban as being discrmenatory against it .
So in typical govt style rather than review it they included everyone else ;D ;D as well but they know that implementing such a rule against others is difficult.
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rcdhamaka

Quote from: chanvivek on June 18, 2009, 12:12:21 PM
This was a piece of news I picked up from IndiaRC!! Bad News for us Indians!! Should start raiding all the hobby shops immdly if this is true!!

The latest notification has the word CHINA removed that means all countries as per the importer i was speaking to.
Here is the latest on the toy ban:

S.O. (E)          In exercise of powers conferred by Section 5, read along with Section 3(2) of the Foreign Trade (Development and Regulation) Act, 1992, also read along with paragraph 2.1 of the Foreign Trade Policy, 2004-09, the Central Government hereby amends Notification No. 91  /(RE-2008) / 2004-2009  dated 2nd March, 2009 as under:-

1.         "Import of 'Toys' appearing under ITC Codes 9501, 9502, 9503 of Schedule – I of ITC(HS) Classifications of Export and Import Items is prohibited up to 23rd January, 2010 and until further orders. However, import of toys accompanied by the following certificates shall be permitted:

RCFORALL the word china is removed so that means from anywhere. the notification is very clear about it.

So even if the goods are made in USA, Japan or Europe it does'nt really matter. It is clear when they don't mention any country it implies to the every country.

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rcforall

So getting any kind of Models is out of question I guess .

So I suppose most of us will have to convert to BUILD and FLY  rather than Buy and fly types .

All Modelers in India  should become scratch builders , ARF and RTF is out for 6 months at least .

MORE SPADER's will come up now in India  ;D  always look at the brighter side  :D ;)
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izmile

Quote from: rcforall on June 18, 2009, 04:56:01 PM
MORE SPADER's will come up now in India  ;D  always look at the brighter side  :D ;)
Sai

Exactly what I was thinking. I hope I get to see some interesting builds comming up.
"Anything can fly" - SPADs just prove that!

anwar

Hmmm... so what makes us think the manufacturers will not have have (or will not get) the certificate that is being insisted on by the Indian government ?   May be not all, but the major ones would, right ?
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rcforall

Quote from: anwar on June 18, 2009, 05:07:36 PM
Hmmm... so what makes us think the manufacturers will not have have (or will not get) the certificate that is being insisted on by the Indian government ?   May be not all, but the major ones would, right ?

It is a bit of a catch 22 situation  the certificates pertain to Health hazards  mainly relating to chemicals used in paints and coloring agents largely for kids toys . Hence for Model manufacturers to get that certificate is a difficult .
Further the Indian market in terms of volumes for a manufacturer is insignificant hence they might not take the trouble to do so unless they consider it strategically to be a future potential .
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anwar

Again, I wonder how the practical enforcement of this will work, in light of the typical "chaai-paani" bureaucracy of at least a few of our government offices.  Doesn't this just give a small minority who are the "crooked babu"s yet another tool to "negotiate", and that is the only impact ? 

Or does this really mean the almost complete stop of model imports, as claimed/feared ?
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rcforall

most likely the former than the latter 
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rcforall

I got some information which clearly says that Model kits imports are allowed .
Checked it out and came up with this link.
Hence contrary to the title of this thread imports of Model aircraft  kits from China is allowed .
Here is the circular :
http://www.infodriveindia.com/Notifications/Prohibition-on-import-of-toys-21273.aspx

In circular  note in scope section 2 item g and i  which clearly states Model aircraft kit are not covered by the scope of ISO 8124the ban as the ban pertains to only toys for children below 14 years.
""" The requirements in this part of ISO 8124 apply to all toys, i.e. any product or material designed or clearly intended for use in play by children under 14 years of age. """"

Also read notification 113 .

Hence I think contrary to the Ban it is actually separated Model related stuff from toys hence not covered by the BAN

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anwar

Does that mean only Pikle6 is in trouble, and the rest of us are fine ?   8-)  8-)   ;D   ;D
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rcforall

Quote from: Sahevaan on June 19, 2009, 04:29:50 PM
I think all of Us should protest...... ;D ;D ;D :D


Abut What  ??? ??? ??? ??? There does not seem to be a ban in any case ;D ;D
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Pikle6

wait if you are thinking about the rds8000 tx system trouble i am out of danger. i spoke to sanjeev uncle from rcdhamaka and he said that the tx system will be on way on monday so i think that airtronics already has that certificate or whatever is needed.
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anwar

Pikle6 - I was thinking about the 14years age limit on the import restriction  ;D ;D ;D

Just kidding  ;)
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Does RC models come under the category of toys?? ??? Or is this how importers are bringing it for lower taxes? Any details on this would be appreciated.
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rcforall

Quote from: anwar on June 19, 2009, 08:47:59 PM
Pikle6 - I was thinking about the 14years age limit on the import restriction  ;D ;D ;D

Just kidding  ;)

So I think we should print some special labels for what we sell to Pickle6 and Sahevan  ;D ;D ;D
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Pikle6

hey guys i am 15 and will be 16 in about a month so please reserve them for saheevan only
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Pikle6

hurray my radio is in india should have it in my hands in about 10 days
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