http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kolkata/Kolkata-college-boy-builds-a-drone-wants-army-to-take-a-look/articleshow/22017990.cms
Today there is an article in TOI regarding a guy from Kolkata made a drone and claims to be a prodigy. Does anybody has any details regarding this. Just want to know what its upto, mostly TOI time on time without any background check publish article where reporter got fascinated by a gizmo because of his lack technical knowledge and proclaim to be a invention.
got this from youtube, seems to be same guy
https://www.youtube.com/user/subhanjan9/video
Quote from: nchandra on August 24, 2013, 11:34:44 AM
Mostly TOI time on time without any background check publish article where reporter got fascinated by a gizmo because of his lack technical knowledge and proclaim to be a invention.
+1
Quote from: nchandra on August 24, 2013, 11:34:44 AM
mostly TOI time on time without any background check publish article where reporter got fascinated by a gizmo because of his lack technical knowledge and proclaim to be a invention.
I Agree with you +1
Any one from this forum can build much much better then that
I used to build such (aircraft only) when I was in 5th class
Even I read the story and was surprised to see the video posted above! The voices from the background clearly indicates someone behind the screen guiding the guy how to fly in bengali! left left...right right...up up.... :giggle:
Seriously, there are much much more talented people here in the forum who can build much better and well equipped flying devices than this one!
I don't know how this one came into the limelight! :headscratch: May be has really created something amazing ??? 8-)
man if this guy has overhyped himself so much, others on the forum will look like gods to the press ! :P
this is not a dificult task forum members are great he is just dust
This is also published in Dainik Bhaskar news paper in today morning
here's some different news... came in the paper today...
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/University-students-build-QuadCopter/articleshow/22530968.cms
yaar we should send a letter to the Hon' Editor of TOI the link to our forum or they will publish these crap articles.. very sad to see these kind of articles stating first one in india and other crappy things :/
you can make a quadcopter in less than 15k in which you can use turnigy frames and for scratch build u can simply use aluminium booms or wood and they are stating 30k wth....
I posted a reply on their website and I would speak to the chief editor tomorrow and try to explain that this is not new!
My comment goes like this:
''There cannot be any patent involved! What will it be about? Being one of the thousands of people who make Quadcoptersand tricopters etc. in India! I live in Dona Paula and have been pursuing this RC hobby for the last 4 years and I can tell you that this is NOTHING NEW. Quadcopters have been built and flown by literally thousands of people in India and a few in Goa itself. RC hobby is a hobby which isn't very popular because of its costs but saying that it took 30K to make a quadcopter is like saying you paid 10 Lakh for a Tata Nano! I personally have been flying FPV(First Pilot View) which is a much higher technology and quality than what the alleged 'Quadcopter Aditya' you speak of. I would like to say that if the hobbyists want to 'show-off ' with their equipment then this quadcopter is just a small beginning. I would say that they have done a good job as a beginner team but it is nowhere near to the quality of the things which are happening these days. A person can successfully build and fly a Quadcopter for under 12K in India and thus "Aditya" is what I think of a hyped up Project which is no different than the usual RC material available in the market. I would like to write how all this quadcopter and drones buisness is really not a big thing if it compared to the hobby community's work which is boundary-less. And about the flying radius part- a normal hobby grade quadcopter can fly in a radius of about 1.5km and 1.5km high as well. I would like to interact with the Students who made this quadcopter and tell them about the No-New community of RC pilots and makers who do what they have done on a reqular basis.
Prateek Khullar''
He is customer of quadkopters.com
I wonder with such irresponsible acts and stupid media coverage:
if there is a stage where our (stupid) government decides to illegalize such activities, how would it affect the LHS? as most of these guys buy stuffs from LHS now a days.
today again mr. saha was in TOI with a picture with a small quad.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kolkata/Entrepreneurs-make-a-beeline-for-Kolkata-boys-drones/articleshow/23384173.cms
Only 200mtrs of demonstration for what is being claimed for 10Kms thats the highlights!!!!!. If you have friends and relatives in media you can do this too. Yes our media and mass is ignorant to this level. What a rubbish.
^ +1
He disappeared from the forum the moment the discussion about patents and all started.
Did not have one word to say about what he has done other than out-of-the-box commercial stuff.
@Anwarji it is obvious he will disappear since he has used stuff from HK or LHS for all his models. And if he is still boasting about his Models flying for 10km he should demo it at 10km not 200m (it's obvious it can't go that far).
as my onion....we should ignore these type of news,
related agency like DRDO, know everything..like so many cheep hobby items are easily available in Today mkt,
Actually drone technology is more advance to these cheep items.
regards
laxman
Check out a few pics of his model (looks like thermocouple)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3260207841519&set=pb.1756887896.-2207520000.1380702897.&type=3&theater
i have received the comments from toi guy..
2:37pm
Subhanjan Saha
Hey, I didn't like this comment. and dear sir, i am not rich like u ,, who can buy a ready-made plane or a helicopter and fly for youe own fun or hobby,, and all my design is made by scrap materials which you didnt think ever,, you guys reserved this hobby for yourself only,, not for the guys who cant effort the money to buy a rc plane in india,, you think u r doing very well ,, just buy a model and fly it,, ok, good then do it, no problem,, but can you please tell me what is main mechanical difference between rc plane and a drone,, and if you read the TOI article then u can see they mentioned it mini drone,, like a drone ,, not just a real big drone,, so pls do whatever u r doing with ur hobby,, and dont give foolish comment ,, thank you
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The comment:
Laxman Suthar (October 2, 2013): dear, don't make fool others who do not know about your drone...you are just misguide all of them, "buy just cheep rc items & make rc plane & put one camera" not be a drone...just thinks twice..there are so many aeromodellers exists in india who can make much batter flying machine then you..kindly do not call your rc plane is Drone.
Content URL: https://www.facebook.com/subhanjan.saha/posts/3433711979014
Quote from: yashodhanp on October 02, 2013, 02:07:21 PM
Check out a few pics of his model (looks like thermocouple)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3260207841519&set=pb.1756887896.-2207520000.1380702897.&type=3&theater
Thermocouple ? Thermocole ??
Nothing wrong with that model, pretty well built.
I didnt try to imply that the model is bad, but the capabilities are a bit far fetched. And i appreciate the fact that he built it, but it would be wrong to call it a drone (as discussed in another thread).
I think Mr. Saha should atleast come on the forum and share his models' details with us.
Apparent he does not understand what a drone is. He thinks being mechanically similar makes something a drone... and the moment the word "drone" is used, it becomes newsworthy (in the eyes of ignorant public/journalists).
It is clear that there are tons of people here who have done 10x and 100x of what this kid claims to have done and is taking undue credit for.
@anwar ji i agree. Journalists and the Public are ignorant about this and they think this is something new and create a hype. Which he is taking advantage of big time.
+1
anwar bhai
he is clearly In this hobby (or a part of it) because he wants to do fpv.
a person who likes rc flying puts some sweat into making their scratchbuilds look beautiful.. then there is this guy....
as for cost, I would say that now courtesy rcbazaars new rcb6i radio, one can get into this hobby in as little as Rs 6k!
Sent from a potato using a lamp
No harm in doing FPV, but he should stop giving far fetched details (10km range etc) and then telling that he will fly it to a max of 200m so that he can 'keep it in control' .
If he wants to do FPV there are many members here who are more than willing to help him out. He should stop making such bogus claims. The media has given it pointless hype because he used the word 'drone' that made it a new invention.
he's having a demonstration flight on 2 or 4th October.... that ngo has organized it. any ideas anyone? ;)
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write a letter to the editor : they will print it and they are bound to wake up
He is saying he has written to DRDO asking them to take over his project so that he can do much more in this area.
DRDO is making far more complicated systems than what he has made. It just hasn't made its achievements public for national security reasons. If Mr. Subhanjan Saha wants to work for DRDO or similar agencies and make a real drone, then he should study hard and learn more of AEROMODELLING, Communication Techniques, Control Systems Design and Spectrum Analysis, to name a few. He then should sit for Scientist Entry Test conducted by the DRDO every year.
:headscratch: :headscratch: If you understand how a newspaper business runs! no one would have raised this topic at all.
news of this sort are the fillers/timepass/no serious types. in my view and experience with media whole newspaper is a times pass with news based on assumptions and the limited knowledge of a reporter.
This is actually a dangerous chemistry! less information, low domain knowledge when combines with reporters limited intellect a NEWSPAPER report born.
I am not saying that they are wrong. I am trying to convey that NEWS is a very responsible job but due to pressing deadlines and market competition; page filing had become important (becuse more pages will give more Advt. space).
:o
I can see a signal booster sitting on the Tx from the pic in reply #21, must be in effort to achieve a longer range. Not 10km with that setup definitely.
First of all how did it go to 90k it is too much even if we take all the stuff at its max
radio 3000
camera gopro or something like that ( which he ain't using ) 30000
video tx,rx, screen and all the extra stuff 15000
motor 2000
battery 2000
esc 2000
servos 600 per piece * 6 servos 3600
charger 4000
miscellaneous 2000
total 63600
Add 30k as labour costs. Then it'll cross 90k :giggle:
if his model some how crossed 90k
then why ain't he using a reliable transmitter like hitec futaba etc. just a suggestion
i am ready to sponsor him before DRDO & HAL... :Rs: :Rs: :Rs: :Rs: :Rs: :Rs:
so that we can fight with aliens from mars .......... >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D
conditions --
can have capacity to drop a atom bomb of 10 mg capacity
with a 3d camera to shoot :violent:
what I could make out, was a cheap 6ch flysky... he's poor, but yet he has 90k?? big lol
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He got some NGO to sponsor him. Today he is doing a demo of his 'model' 4.30 -6.30pm.
Anyone seen the 'demo'?? Any pics or anything?
Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e using Tapatalk HD
negative.. nothing on the news yet... maybe he flew his "drone" into his face....
Quote from: saikat on October 03, 2013, 08:36:24 AM
write a letter to the editor : they will print it and they are bound to wake up
This is the right thing to do. Who has written already ? Scammers like this need to be exposed.
He is reading this thread, but not responding to basic questions in public. In private, he blames the newspapers for calling "rc models" as "drones". When asked why did you not correct the journalists, he ran away from the question :)
He is fully aware that there are many many here who have achieved much more than what he has done. I guess he is just embarrassed at this point, and all he can do now is to run.
He has deleted his Facebook account since his scam was getting exposed when confronted with technical details and validity for his overhyped claims in his page. He has deleted/blocked all those whose comments were exposing his hyperventilating to Media in his Youtube page. He has no intention of correcting himself. He is still compulsive in defending his claim may be still out of sheer embarrassment.
He hasn't deleted his account, I think he has blocked you. His profile is very much active
And going through certain comments on his profile it is evident he is now trying to defend himself. The NGO that's funded him is also being misguided most probably since they are furiously defending him and his models.
Absolutely He has blocked all those users who had the capacity to expose him.
http://principalsecretarysblog.blogspot.in/
https://www.facebook.com/bappaditya.prantakatha/media_set?set=a.10151699408603741.1073741832.705818740&type=1
The plane which was supposed to go 10Kms range.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/601598_10151699409093741_403388110_n.jpg)
Shame. He can't even stand the truth.
An actual UAV pilot (IA) also commented, Mr. Saha tried to rubbish him as well.
oh no.. we miss something.... range in meters not in kilometers..... :banghead: :banghead:
he is having long range satellite camera fitted on his head..... we missed all ........ :giggle:
Dat fellow is getting what he wants. In the link they say they want to use his quad to secure the park. This means contract and money for Saha.
Its sad to see some people like Saha ruining this hobby.
@sundaram ji, good comment on the blog +1
@yash :hatsoff:
Sundaram sir wat a comment sir jee :thumbsup: :hatsoff:
Topic name updated... so that when people search for "wrong" news on "Times of India", they notice this thread... eventually the newspaper staff themselves will notice this thread.
Essentially Times of India newspaper is fooled by this kid... and their journalists should have done some verification of the matter before sending it to print.
I hope it stuffs a bit of sense into the common public :banghead:. Agreed the NGO guy has a lot of effort gone into it :-\, but he should also understand it instead of pointlessly defending Mr. Saha, who now is taking full and undue advantage of this media exposure. >:(
And as 'doctor' said he is ruining this hobby by considering his own personal interests over the interests of the community as a whole.
He even made a comment that the TOI journalists cannot be wrong since they have their own verifications before they publish something, when he was confronted with the evidence.
N.B. i always see 1 or 2 guests viewing this thread, i wonder who they are!! ??? :headscratch:
@anwar ji +1 :salute:
If Anwar ji permits, then i can post the replies from FB here.
I dont knw why students do all this publicity things!
They would have got info frm site like this n go to public and say they did all by themselves...
Even I am a student who did a project on VTOL aircraft (it was supposed to be a tilt wing mechanism) it wasnt successful and due to lack of time I had to go for Tri-copter and i finished well and scored 196 out of 200...
all my teachers who were noobs in this rc field knew nothing abt wat is happening told me to publish it in newspaper... I said i will do tat but never did! i knw ppl are more capable than wat i did and all i did was upload it on Youtube and showed it to my friends n relatives and I started continuing my hobby...
I guess many students n teachers do it for publicity for themselves and for college
even Mr. Rajendra sir replied very well in his FB remark.. hats of to Mr. Rajendra :hatsoff:
hey post the screenshots of replies here.... :)
that multirotor is HIDEOUS! it looks like a 3 year olds thermocol chart!! is this the limit of indians showing their creativity??
dissapointing, to say the least
I wont post those screen shots unless Anwar ji allows me to do so.
shame on this guy! fooling the public!
and then blocking people who seem to expose his secret!
I have no problem with posting screenshots, except when it contains vulgar name calling or profanity.
This is media........... :giggle:
he can be a politician... he's a pro!
His total cost was 90,000....???
Protecting a 480 acre park is no joke. I am not into quads but i can imagine the money it requires. So, the hobby destroyer along with his team mates will make money.
May be rc enthusiasts from kolkatta with actual quads with gps can contact the park authority and hold a demo atleast to open their eyes.
The fellow knows what he is doing. He knows DRDO and other defence orgs are very well equipped and wont even look at his cellotape bound camera on his traine
RC kum, dhamaka jyada
The guy is young and taken over by the stardom he's achieved. I also see it as an attempt by the backing NGO to gain momentum via the media. Content losing to marketing, once again.
I tried putting video links to all my flying builds as responses to the article...but the comment button just doesn't work on TOI. Anyone else facing the same issue.
Yes it does not allow full video link. You can post keywords of your youtube link describing it.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/toireporter/author-Prithvijit-Mitra.cms
Prithvijit Mitra is the reporter who published the article on TOI Kolkatta
You can find the links for his twitter/fb/google+
Maybe some can sensitize him about rc hobby.
I would rather prefer to write a letter than posting online tho if i can get exact address of there Kolkatta office.
Look what I found!
Why not 100km ? :)
He's deleted the complete post from his FB profile now. Man, I didn't say a bad word for him...I just told him if he has claimed things in public let the rebuttal be in public...What a chicken!
Here's my last message on his FB profile:
Girish Sarwal: Mr. Mukherjee, there is no agitation or jealousy in the aeromodelling circle, but yes there is dismissal and disappointment with the claims that have been made and the consequences that will follow. I have no doubts that Subhanjan will go further with his endeavor. I deal with young minds of his age daily. However, the ignorance and arrogance that has been displayed till now is also not a mark of a professional (or one to be). Yes the aeromodelling community would love to know about the scientific developments and details of the project, and there are a lot of people who are willing to help at eminent positions...Subhanjan may just be able to find his way through the top without the bureaucracy that we all wish to avoid. No aeromodeller is at war here with Subhanjan nor do we have any "demands" but yes the entire aeromodelling community observes discipline, and expects disciplined disbursal of information...so to speak, our only "demand". And as far as being on a public forum is concerned, if claims are made public, rebuttals are bound to be public. Let it be a fair deal.
Update (maybe I am just blocked or the content has actually been deleted):
original link...https://www.facebook.com/subhanjan.saha/posts/3433711979014?comment_id=2831711¬if_t=comment_mention
Yup, its deleted.
oh we're posting memes?? here's one I found floating around the Internet... (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/08/myza8azu.jpg)
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abp bangala https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7ybn6epleo
It will be a shame when this news reaches other countries where FPV is no longer a new thing .
No words to praise this mini UAV pilot .
:giggle: He is stepping first step of politics!! "Badnaam hue to kya naam na hua?" Gosh hyperactivity on this forum made him a recognized personality may be for a short span of time.
This is first class of rising in politics :giggle: Challenge the top (like Kejriwal did to CM delhi). You have no content but people will discuss about you!! you are famous!!! Go for elections!! fetch some 2-3 seats and sell them on time! make money be happy!!!
Deleted all his activity in Facebook and completed thread about his Hoax claim because of the negative comments recd but still up with this Nonsense using different channel.
http://news.jolchobi.com/2013/10/technological-wizard-attracts.html
Atleast in India we must maintain a low profile and pursue Aero-modelling hobby. You never know Govt. of India will come up with some stupid new rules which could restrict us.
What i observed was this Dimwit newbie uses all cheap level equipments, especially his Radio and the Video cam he used omg no words to say about it, far from anything good. {:)}
If he makes a mess and crashes or becomes a prey of some controversy due to his negligence, the fame he got can take a extreme look and might bring in to public notice that this isn't safe. As it is he has become a public figure in his locality.
Hence his fame & defame could be catastrophic. :banghead:
My bottom line message is we must maintain a low profile and not encourage those people in the hobby who could misuse it.
:thumbsup:
Arvind sir,
When the crap hits the fan, there will be no looking back and reconsiderations of who said what.
If this isn't nipped in the bud, there will be more; naami or badnami, people tend to forget, but information that goes into archives ends up being writing on the wall (and in stone). He will runaway, like he is doing now, and leave all the aeromodellers to bear the brunt.
I seriously wish Saha should be invited to a workshop conducted by leading valours of FPV and given a taste of what serious FPV is, which even grandmasters never equate to a drone owned by DRDO. I am just wondering what would happen if this drones motor came off in air, like my AVspad, while securing that park... :bow: :bow: (complete sarcasm intended)
But there is one thing I am so sure of Arvind ji, Saha's chunav chinhya will be a UAV :giggle: :giggle: :giggle: :giggle:
https://www.facebook.com/bappaditya.prantakatha/media_set?set=a.10151699408603741.1073741832.705818740&type=1
@Kartik ji.. Happy Birthday :D ..
brilliant album i must say (loads of sarcasm intended). Mr. Mukherjee is furiously defending mr.saha. As Sarwal ji would be able to tell. :giggle:
http://news.jolchobi.com/2013/10/technological-wizard-attracts.html
He has blocked my ID from the blog after my comment. But I made sure I left the same comment once again inspite of being blocked from same ID email account. :rofl: :rofl: That should keep him guessing and wondering for some time. ;)
This is how the Patent holder secures his motor to the firewall ... I am sure he is not aware of what his deeds could lead to
sundaram sir, you need to buy one 5km plane from him. He will unlock his facebook for you :D
I need to buy one 5 Kms plane from saha. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Ashok when you guys are there from whom I can get more than 15Km one from why would I go to that Chump. 8-)
Quote from: sameeroraut on October 08, 2013, 03:09:58 PM
This is how the Patent holder secures his motor to the firewall ... I am sure he is not aware of what his deeds could lead to
He wanted to prove that his plane was built with scrap materials. :giggle:
Quote from: foamybuilder on October 08, 2013, 03:15:02 PM
sundaram sir, you need to buy one 5km plane from him. He will unlock his facebook for you :D
:headscratch: foamy your are quoting RANGE of a plane or SIZE of a plane..... ??? ??? ??? :rofl:
i think we have to award him in our National Meet..... :banghead:
Quote from: sundaram on October 08, 2013, 03:25:07 PM
I need to buy one 5 Kms plane from saha. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Ashok when you guys are there from whom I can get more than 15Km one from why would I go to that Chump. 8-)
Will this( "5Km plane") be a new term among RC flyers? Street racers (supposedly) have "10 second cars" (cars that can run a quarter mile in 10 seconds or less). :giggle:
Quote from: sundaram on October 08, 2013, 02:21:29 PM
http://news.jolchobi.com/2013/10/technological-wizard-attracts.html
He has blocked my ID from the blog after my comment. But I made sure I left the same comment once again inspite of being blocked from same ID email account. :rofl: :rofl: That should keep him guessing and wondering for some time. ;)
I think none of the comments are deleted ...
Dear all members,
Kindly consider this as official reply on behalf of Prantakatha, the NGO with regard to Mr Saha's UAV.
We are extremely apologetic if the above news hurt sentiment of the community on behalf of our organisation. We would like to clarify that we are not specialized in this topic therefore we do not have the authority to claim or counter claim on any technical issue. Regarding our support to Saha was primarily on mentoring him to his career path given the fact that he qualified for one of our support programme targeted to needy youth from Bengal.
Regarding false claims as raised by you, we have already requested Mr Saha to get some accreditation from some reputed institute related to this domain and thereafter only we can proceed further.
Therefore we hope the community here will understand and appreciate our positioning in terms of our work and our focus which is not on RC planes and therefore we acknowledge our lack of domain knowledge and any miscommunication (if at all) stemmed out of that. But technical claims are not by us as we did not have the knowledge and therefore we have not authority towards that.
We hope the community will understand and appreciate our present position
Best
what the guy was saying in you tube video , i understand saying him 10 km , there are guys whose parcels are at customs
Quote from: Bappaditya on October 31, 2013, 04:30:07 PM
We hope the community will understand and appreciate our present position
We appreciate what your intentions are.
The problem is that you are being taken for a ride by this youngster who is making false claims about inventions and expertise while the reality is that he is just using out-of-the-box commercial stuff that is being used by hundreds (possibly thousands) in our country alone, with many of them having done much more than this kid claims.
The worst part is that he runs and hides the moment anyone asks genuine and benign questions about his claims.
Based on what we have seen so far, you may be better of spending your time and efforts on someone truly worthy of your earnest efforts.
Dear bappaditya!
With his setup and platform even 5 kms looks doubtful. If you see the tenor of our concern. It s more towards the fact that he shouldn't con someone. Loss of credibility is not good for the hobby. I would really be surprised if he can muster accreditation of any kind. Though my best wishes are with him. As long as he doesn't stake tall claims and cons people.
+1 Bappaditya
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
<not related to person we had discussed before>
"Drones used to try to smuggle contraband into jail" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25136068
Is this ill effects of amazon's prime air stunt? And worse is even BBC are quoting them as drone. :banghead: