Aero Engineering Works - My Funjet

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asinghatiya

Finally After many years of desire and thought process! Yesterday finally I got my Funjet.

Was eyeing a funjet on RCD... after lot of to & fro I finally decided to go ahead with one.... :banghead: and the day I wanna buy it went backorder. Once decided now no looking back so start searching other options....and finally I found one with Areo Engineering Works.

Called them many times before going ahead to understadnt the motor requirement, shipping porp reuqirement etc.

I found them very cooperative and helping. Disucssed with many flying buddies and got a posivitve feedback about them and This thread to endorce their good work and prompt response.

Yesterday got my FUNJET herewith are picturs.

I welcome suggestions/tips/ advice on this model from expert flyers.

The combo I am planning to install is:

Motor 2826/2200 kv
ESC- 50 AMp (Birdie)
6X4 Prop
3s 20c 2200 Mah Battery





Sanajy Rai sir's take is it will be flying ladies style  :giggle: :giggle: with this electronic combination.  So will upgrade soon. Need expert advice on this.
:-)

sanjayrai55

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Put a 3700 KV motor on it..........be where the Big Boys play  ;) ;D

K K Iyer

@sanjayrai55
At 11v say 40k rpm on 3700kv
Or say 660 rps
Or say 220 fps pitch speed on a 4" pitch
Or say 250 kmph
Am i right?
Or am i stuck inside of Mobile, with the 10pm blues again?

sanjayrai55


K K Iyer


rastsaurabh

No means no.... Its Boltz rule when Rai sir say "no" then know more questions.

theleabres

I'm interested how your funjet turns out.  I just started my build on my 4th Skyfun.  Parts I already have on hand Turnigy 2836 2300 kv. 40 amp ESC, 2200 mah 4S lipo.

I'm asking Rahul if we can fly on his field, hoping we can have a race.

I also have a speed measuring device from my baseball gear so we can see exactly how fast these things performs.

Will yours be ready in 2 weeks?  

K K Iyer

Quote from: rastsaurabh on February 21, 2014, 11:58:53 PM
No means no.... Its Boltz rule when Rai sir say "no" then know more questions.
Right. I note. Know more questions.

K K Iyer

@theleabres
250kmph?
You'll probably know these references, like
Riding 90 miles an hour down a dead end street...
I suspect sanjayrai55 has gone to bed...

theleabres

Well, if the airspace is limited I may uses a car ESC and toggle reverse thrust mode to slow down.

If it happens, for sure there will be a Youtube video.  After that, organizers can introduce pylon racing.

Warning: don't race your plane if you can't afford to lose it all.  At these speeds, any loose control surface, horn, weak wing joint will be tested to its limits and the smallest miscalculation will result in catastrophic failure.  Then it's goodnight go to bed.

Reference quote:  Your Ego Is Writing Checks Your Body Can't Cash


VC

Quote from: rastsaurabh on February 21, 2014, 11:58:53 PM
No means no.... Its Boltz rule when Rai sir say "no" then know more questions.

+1 to Rai Sahib and to Saurabh. Two alphabets sum up a wealth of advice. I love this!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I 'know' that there are NO more questions...............
Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional!

VC

@Lance -

Reference Quote - You don't have time to think up there. If you think, you're dead.  :P
Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional!

rcpilotacro

My posts of my funjet is there somewhere. Look for it. Few issues. Don't launch it with full power she will run out of hand. See my post on maiden woes. I have covered how to toss etc. At throw you will need full recommended throw, not the reduced control throw. It has Adverse aileron drag (see my basic aerodynamics thread ) to counter that throws recommended in the manual is differential (that is different throw for up and down) follow that throw. After take off she picks up speed quite quickly. Control speed else change over to low throw else she gets very sensitive. Any other issue ? You could flag the same.
Gusty's Hangar and Introduction.

A Good pilot will practice until he gets it right,
A Great pilot will practice until he can't get it wrong.

rcpilotacro

One other thing I have flown funjet and funjet ultra, both are easy to fly compared to FJ FJU is faster but flyable. Don't get intimidated. FJ is a peace of cake
Gusty's Hangar and Introduction.

A Good pilot will practice until he gets it right,
A Great pilot will practice until he can't get it wrong.

asinghatiya

Many thanks experts for their kind words and tips.

Quote from: theleabres on February 22, 2014, 12:08:25 AM
I'm interested how your funjet turns out.  I just started my build on my 4th Skyfun.  Parts I already have on hand Turnigy 2836 2300 kv. 40 amp ESC, 2200 mah 4S lipo.

@theleabres sir I am already up and flying. It took a night to complete it. And the right comparison for this model is its a Maruti 800 fitted with a Ferrari inside.

Awesome floating capability with Commendable speed. Very reasonable power consumption and with a 3s 2200 20c battery and 2826/2200 kv motor you can fly it for about 10-12 minutes with a mix of high speed passes and glider like floating.  Sir, your most welcome to our field in Gurgaon and we would be obliged to have you with us.


Quote from: rcpilotacro on February 22, 2014, 10:34:57 AM
After take off she picks up speed quite quickly. Control speed else change over to low throw else she gets very sensitive.
@Gusty sir, wonderful tip to remember for this model. I kept it in mind while doing maiden & it really picks up after launched. As you said its no doubt a piece of cake and really a forgiving model.

Many thanks Sanjay sir for his final touches to the model; beleive me untill he touches the models I fly, they never fly safe.  ;D. After my models got his magic touch they become my bread & butter models  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: and Bolts knows what bread & butter model is all about.  :bow:





:-)

sanjayrai55


theleabres

Good video. Looking forward to flying with you in Gurgaon.  Thanks for the invite.


asinghatiya

After 30+ sorties on this funjet; I am facing a serious problem :banghead: with motor.

I got a 2826 2200KV motor with funjet from Aero EW. They suggested I need to re-fit the motor shaft in order to make funjet ready.

After I did that with in 5 sorties Shaft got cut.

I changed motor with an EDF motor which was 4200KV. In 10 sorties Its shaft also got cut. I changed the shaft result was same after few flight.

Today again I flew it on old 2826 with a new shaft and it was also sliced in the air.

Interestingly all shafts were sliced in the air.

Any views??? What motor I should use for it now??
:-)

theleabres

You might have some slight chafing between the mount and shaft.  I can't think of any other reason how the shaft would get sliced in mid-flight.  That or there is a slight vibration during the flight that is enough for the mount to touch the shaft.

You could try and static test but wear protective clothing in case the problem is duplicated on the ground.

asinghatiya

Shaft touching mount is zero chance sir. On observing its evident that it was sliced by its own C-clip. But id C Clip is slicing it then what should be the way out?
:-)

theleabres

Very strange since I've never seen that with any motor.  The factory places those c-clips and performs quality checks.

It's a pusher.  If you reversed the shaft, the c-clip should not have any pressure.  The grub screw holds the shaft in the flat spot. On my SkyFun setup, I can't imagine how the c-clip  would cut the shaft.

If you can a take a macro shot it would be helpful.

I would stay away from Aero EW brand.

sanjayrai55

Instead of a circlup, using a collar (with a grub screw) should solve the problem

rastsaurabh

"Instead of a circlup, using a collar (with a grub screw) should solve the problem"


yes it should... but when we have forces as high as 3 mm shaft breaking..( The shaft is not getting cut it is breaking)
will grub screw be able to hold such forces...!!!

here is the macro view..... the shaft is brand new with a machined Circlip groove with a brass washer in between bearing and circlip & the washer is resting only on the inner ring of bearing.


This issue is so grave that entire BOLTZ ( our group) is terrorized.

K K Iyer

You said 'cut' and 'slice'. :headscratch:
Did the shafts break or not?
If so, at which place?
Or did the shaft get cut/sliced at the C clip groove, leading to a small back portion falling off / rear bearing coming off etc

K K Iyer

Been looking at my motors. All have at one END. where there is not possibility of a bending load.

In your picture, the clip/groove appear to be BETWEEN the motor and the prop.
This becomes a WEAK LINK.
Any vibration from the prop, however imperceptible, WILL lead to a fracture.
I presume you are turning over 20,000rpm

See my pics. Groove at one end, not between motor and prop.
While reversing the shaft, did you use a different shaft?
Or did you grind a groove for the clip?