Anwar bhai,
                Please  pardon me, for if I have offended in any way nor I wanted to.

Further regarding AXN Floater all bundled, I know a friend who ordered for it when it was in Back order and some days down the line HK has listed down graded model, while the Bundled version is still on Back order, so he had to cancel the order to order for a strip down version and it worked out expensive for him and so from any consumer point of view, he felt cheated.

What product mixes come out during a particular period of time are usually part of a manufacturing plan, and sometimes demand for one version will be higher causing it to go out of stock.  Companies typically adjust their product mixes to handle this, but only after delivering the initial batches with the planned counts.

Backorders are filled eventually. It looks like it was a patience issue with your friend, more than HK's product mix issues

There are many who do not want the entire RTF product, and they would feel they are forced to buy a useless (for them!) ESC etc if HK only delivered the original product.  For them, your line of thought would feel completely hypocritical It would have worked out expensive for these consumers !

PS: Why the heck am I defending HK   And no offense taken at all, we don't need to be this formal or uptight !

I think am starting to realise this fact, it might have proved expensive for him to buy a Fully bundled Plane.

I think they won't remain competitive with this model any more now, as many other Asian on-line store would be near to them in pricing.

HK's USP was fully loaded plane with competitive pricing.

RCFORALL Shikra   

Did you get the CF rod and Canopy for the same Sai ? Why dont you Ship 5-6 to Banglore to one your close 'Friends' ? people can save shipping when they pick up from there!!

Is it available ?  No update is posted here :

http://www.rcindia.org/rc-general-topics/fpv-plane/msg49109/#msg49109

After 3 beautiful flights , I finally crashed my AXN, not due to lack of flying skills, but due to lack of Sleep. Last Sunday these college kids Shadnaam and Umer asked me to come to Hoskote. Now weary of the Super Moon effect I was spooky, but somehow I stopped my 28" F-22 build 4AM in the morning  slept. Wakeup at 7, still sleepy, I quickly packed up and head to Hoskote. Wanted to start flying soon (Sharat's 60 size trainer was cooling down) so I quickly fixed the wings and took it off. 10 mins of flying, I gave the Radio to Shadnaam and then to Umer(who so kindly drove us to Hoskote, and not flying at all.. sweet of him). These kids pushed the plane to limit I already did the previous sunday, so I was confident.

I had asked Umer to climb enough so that I can recover if he looses orientation (sun was too bright at 12 noon) Suddenly, at around 200ft, the plane started to tip stall and I quickly took the Radio. But in no time, the left wing came off and the plane started a dive with only one wing!! There was hardly any controll  surface on this plane to recover and I could hardly manage to gentle the fall (from 200+ft!!).

Walking to  recover whatever was remained of the plane, I suddenly realized I did not put the CF Wing Joiner Rod AT ALL!!! which I had left at home in the AXN box I used to carry it last time!!!cursing my sleepless, I wowed not to work late night before flying.

Well the fuse has cracked at 3 places : cavity where Wing Aft inserts, place where Wing is thickest and just below elevator.

Suggest what Glue should I use on EPO ? I have Evotite Foam Safe CA I used to fix the tail during the assembly. I also have normal thick CA, and I have Long curing Araldite and 5 Minute Epoxy. I would be reinforcing the joins with CF rids and 6x1mm flat strips. So the strength of the Glue binding with EPO is very important.

I had bad experience with 5 Min epoxy building my HK Mini Swift as the epoxy did not stick to the EPO surface at all.

Just 5 mins before the crash while flying the plane, I was telling to my self "What an idiot would crash this plane, if not during a bad landing". Its a wonder how fast your thoughts become harsh reality for you.

Hey Ujjwaana,
                    I think you should perform some pooja before flying, need help in finding a Pundit ji PM me.

When is th shikra coming up? Definitely want one, an arf with motor would be hard to resist.

Has anybody tried to put magnet in the wings of the AXN so that they wont come out?

There are two walls on the frame where the wing touches. I am planning to put 1 magnet on both these walls & on the wings so that they wont come out. Planning to use these

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/super-strong-rare-earth-re-magnets-20-pack-10mm-x-1mm-5962

Any suggestions?

@ujjwaana, when did it crash? you again flew that after I left, i thought you were flying that little sparrow? What happened to that, did it come down the tree 

Hi Azhaguvel

These magnets are not strong enough. I have put 20 (5 on wing and 5 on fuse for both wings) of them on a scratch built plane and the force is still not that much. rather go for the magnets on Hk i think they are stronger than deal extreme ones.

Regards
Ankur

Quote from: foamybuilder on April 15, 2011, 02:30:07 PM
@ujjwaana, when did it crash? you again flew that after I left, i thought you were flying that little sparrow? What happened to that, did it come down the tree 

Hey Ashok,
I repaired the plane well and flew it twice. Since then i dod not get time to fly that as I have been flying (and getting board of) Yashvardhan AXN floater to train him.

I could finally fly the little 'Sparrow'. The CG was way forward. on the 2nd flight it got stuck in on the trees and while pulling it down, I found some fissure in the motor mount area. Would repair it and bring it on Sunday.


Azhaguvel,
Use a Rubber Band or Fiber Tape to hold the Canopy. Remember HK does not sell spares for AXN (most popular!) ! Magnets are not good as loos, they would come off. Too tight and you can break it while pulling out.

ujjwaana, I am talking about wing holding not the canopy. After a few use the wings is slightly lose.

i am sure u guys have checked it out.... but there is a way to make this axn floater faster and more agile, do victoyy loops and junk. Thats by trimming out the wing tips.. Its looks pretty easy and i think it makes sense... here you go.. the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAspCsgePJ8&playnext=1&list=PL6EC7E1BBEB366F8A.. i hope this helps...

A Cat has 7 lives! 5 more to find!!!

Use hotglue to glue those loose wings.. It's a very good fix... Cheap easy and reversible..

Quote from: rahulgaba on July 08, 2011, 12:00:22 AM
i am sure u guys have checked it out.... but there is a way to make this axn floater faster and more agile, do victoyy loops and junk. Thats by trimming out the wing tips.. Its looks pretty easy and i think it makes sense...

Someone at our field has done this.  With the wingtips clipped and the ailerons made bigger, it is a completely different animal which can easily do loops, rolls and inverted flying (with a power system upgrade which was done earlier).

Guess it adds even more value to this type of models... they are now beginner to intermediate level models (instead of just beginner ones).

Its time Sai sells the Wings of his Shikhra as spare. Then one can have 2 wings set and enjoy both the flavors of this plane!

how much did it cost , do you paid any customs (some one told me that there will be no customs on foam)

Delhi customs detains AXN floater ... or any other plane model.... for more info you can call me ... as the same cannot be discussed in open

Quote from: vineet on August 01, 2011, 02:50:54 PM
how much did it cost , do you paid any customs (some one told me that there will be no customs on foam)

Did you do the calculations on
1) getting the AXN Floater from HK + customs hassles v/s
2) buying easystar from rcdhamaka or shikara from rcforall.
If not, just check out for the locally available version which can save some anxious moments .... 

If anyone needs an AXN floter or Bixler in Delhi (NCR) can feel free to call me....

Quote from: ashutoshn on August 01, 2011, 07:22:59 PM
If not, just check out for the locally available version which can save some anxious moments .... 

yes sir i did it all this is indian seller are very high at price , the difference is you will wait less when you go for sellers in india