AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity

Started by anwar, December 24, 2009, 09:36:24 PM

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anwar

A local flyer did an upgrade of his AXN with the equipment listed in the Qatar forum, and it became a whole another beast !

http://rcqatar.com/rc-in-qatar/another-beginner-in-qatar/msg903/#msg903

He also had a bad crash, and a somewhat ugly ( ;) ) fix !

http://rcqatar.com/rc-in-qatar/another-beginner-in-qatar/msg895/#msg895
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azhaguvel

Does anybody have the programming manual for the AOXAN ESC which comes with the AXN floater. i want to program it for hard cut-off.

anwar

Looks like the programming is same as HobbyWing and Turnigy ESCs... the same programming card (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=2169) is said to be compatible.  So find the manual for any of those brands, and you should be set.
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divay99

Good morning People ....

Need some help... bent the elevator pushrod on the AXN ... need some help as to where I can find the same / any other solution ... thanks a ton
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rcpilotacro

i am sure you have tried cycle spokes ?
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divay99

Good morning Sir, cycle spokes are a bit thick while the pushrods in this plane are thin ... not sure if it would help ....
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akky

#107
divay bhaiya use 1mm  silver steel rods..these are easily available in delhi.....they can be found at any metals work shop
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rcpilotacro

spokes are good i have used it all scratch build, doesn't slack, especially at extreme throw angles
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ujjwaana

there something called as 'Spring Steel rods' sold at Spring shops in metal shop in Sadar Bazaar/Karol Bag etc are. Do a Yellow page search for shops selling Spring Steel.

I got straitened one in Bangalore last year, after exhausting them, I could only find the 'Rolled' ones, which are hard to straighted by hands. so keep away from such rods/wires  rolled in coil.
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rajathv8

I use GI wire. The spokes i have are heavier.

ujjwaana

Quote from: rajathv8 on March 14, 2011, 01:27:24 PM
I use GI wire. The spokes i have are heavier.
They do work, but such wire should either have very high Tensile Strength (tends to get thicker) or much thinner ones with high spring action. You can bend GI wire with hand and they can easily get dis formed with time due loading during the 'Push' action.
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divay99

Hi Guys ... a quick question :

Which motor and ESC should one use with this ( please post links if any of the LHS's have the same)

If not available with the LHS's a hobbyking link would be highly appreciated.
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spitfire

Hint for searching motor:
Keep Kv rating for motor 2000+ and current rating around 20 amps with 5x5 or 6x5 prop.
keep ESC accordingly.

SunLikeStar

I dont have any experience with Axn Floater but I think you can use the setup i am using on my easy star.
http://www.rcindia.org/electric-planes/upgrading-brushless-motor-for-easy-star/msg47557/#msg47557
I am using this with mystery 30A ESC but only because i dont have a 20A ESC.

anwar

The new AXN Floaters are coming with 25A ESC by default (at least what I saw with two people on our field recently).

Here is an upgrade suggestion that seems to work well :

http://rcqatar.com/rc-in-qatar/another-beginner-in-qatar/msg903/#msg903
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divay99

Thanks all for your suggestion, does anyone know of any LHS's stocking a motor and ESC for this model
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ujjwaana

Quote from: divay99 on March 21, 2011, 05:55:48 PM
Thanks all for your suggestion, does anyone know of any LHS's stocking a motor and ESC for this model
Hi Divey,
I am using a Turnigy Plush 30Amp ESC with stock 2200kv Motor and 3S/2200mAh Lipo. The setup did not give me any problem for the 35+ minute flight I had with a single charge (yes, my neck started to pain, and people around lost interest out of that long flight!!)
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divay99

hahahah .... ujjwaana Sir, I by mistake burnt the stock motor, so am looking for a replacement for the same ... cant seem to figure out which one to buy....
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Akshayb

Boys are we discussing, here about "AXN Floater-Jet w/ Servo, Motor, ESC (EPO) PNF" AKA "Floater-Jet EPO with Motor (ARF)", AKA "Floater-Jet EPO (ARF)" , yeah that's confusing, but true. Cloud Fly AKA AXN Floater have three variants now at HK.

1. AXN Floater-Jet w/ Servo, Motor, ESC (EPO) PNF: As the name suggests, this comes with all the electronics but battery and receiver. And is on back order from last more than one month. And one month back it was listed for three or four days.

2.Floater-Jet EPO with Motor (ARF): This variant of Cloud fly is listed by HK a month back, while first variant is still on back order. Comes with Motor, all other electronics you need to buy.Priced at $39.99, :headscratch:
This model is not appearing in listing any more now.

3.Floater-Jet EPO (ARF): This is a bare bone version of Cloud Fly AKA Axn Floater, Priced $34.99

Is this fair on HK's part to sell the striped down variant while the higher variant is on back order, Some of you can ask why it is unfair, lesser add ons lesser price, but if you buy all the electronics which comes with no.1 variant bundled, other two variants will work out more expensive for you.
Is HK is acting too smart or we are giving them chance to act smart, by not trying other options.

Think about it.

anwar

#122
It does not matter which one we are talking about... the key is that 20A ESC is not good enough for this plane, and HK seems to have realized that.  Most people have been getting option 1, with the 25A ESC, it seems to be doing OK.
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Akshayb

Anwar Bhai,
                If you permit me, I just wanted to bring to light to other fellow Rcer that how HK is making out of their customers.

All the Best
Akshay

anwar

#124
No need for the "if you permit me" part... the day members feel they need to ask permission, I will not a be part of this forum ;)

I think HK is giving options to its customers.  Many people have capable ESCs (30A or better) and servos (HXT900 etc) lying around, so it wants to give the option to such folks to get only the pieces they want, instead of forcing a marginal ESC and servos on such people.  Isn't this a good thing ?
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