Build Log Russ 40 Trainer (quick)

Started by VinayakR, October 17, 2011, 10:12:27 PM

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VinayakR

Quote from: PankajC on October 18, 2011, 05:50:17 PM
good work. What is the AUW?

Thanks Pankaj.

AUW before adding dead weight was exact 600 gms. I guess with additional weight of 8 AA cells it increase by 150-200 gms (I'm not sure about weight of dry pencil cell non rechargeable need to check)

SunLikeStar

One pencil cell = 17 grams. I'm working on a DLG :)

VinayakR

Thanks SLS so it added ~ 150 grm with cell hoder to balance.

By the way what is  DLG  ???

SunLikeStar

discus launch glider, look it up on google

VinayakR

WOW Amit cool stuff  :thumbsup: can't wait to see it on feild

efdtnt

Hey hey, Brilliant work man, Nice to see other scratchbuilders...
You built from a plan or just arbitrarily?

VC

#31
I've been engrossed with this build and the RCGroups thread. It is an ingenious design - a must for every beginner. The only constraint would be the regional availability of depron / bio foam. Anyone tried building this out of Coro?

Vinayak  :hatsoff: to you for using pencil (AA) batteries! Inspiring, to say the least. :salute:
Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional!

VinayakR

Thank you VC Sir :)


I liked flight charasristic with ace of simple design . Specially if you see the videos posted by Russ , it's really impressive.

I am planning to rebuild tail  part (only) of this plane by coro. Month back I landed my plane on tree because of high wing and my noob pilot skills  :giggle: and broke the horizontal stab.

I notice while reading this post agin that I havn't uploaded video of my first flight by Prady sir. I will upload it soon.

BTW I have upgraded my TTP with Towerpro 2409 t motor , 2200mh 3 cell lipo, and 10.47 slow prop. Also fuse is now of squre aluminium tube. So now no more Pencil cell for managing GC.

VinayakR

#33


This is video of second -third flight almost 8-9 month back from today
Pilot : Prady Sir

VC

Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional!

satz flying

Trust yourself

manojswizera

Quote from: VC on August 10, 2012, 10:37:39 PM
I've been engrossed with this build and the RCGroups thread. It is an ingenious design - a must for every beginner. The only constraint would be the regional availability of depron / bio foam. Anyone tried building this out of Coro?
Vc sir i have build it in coro and really it one of the best trainer design.
here are the pics of it coco version.
http://www.rcindia.org/electric-planes/my-new-'high-wing-trainer'/msg109192/#msg109192
Russ-40 Trainer, Mr.moss, Pushler, Skysurfer, Mugi , F-22, Red swan, Xtra-300, redfury, flying mantaray.

VC

Thanks for the link Swizera. I think you have deviated a bit from the original plans and reshaped the horizontal tail. However, since it flies well - Congrats to you too!
Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional!

romanxdsouza

#38
hi vinayak ,that neat im building the same need ur help, making 48inch WS polydihedral undercamber wing with ribs ,with mounts,34 fuse,10 wing cord, 14 stab i need help on

what foam to use for wings ,wing ribs,radder ,elevator what should i  say when i go to buy it ,whats it called and ver imp please tell me how many mm each part is please help

im using these electronics my first bild never flew or made 1 b4
futaba transmitter t6ex
r6106hf futaba recievers Size: 0.85 x 1.53 x 0.48" (21 x 39 x 12mm)
Weight: 0.24 oz (6.7g)
Voltage Range: 4.8 - 7.4V
the motor i hav is BLM2822-7T,
carbon prop 6.5 x4,
battery-SLS APL 2200mAh 2S 7.4V 30C +60 C TRX
ESC- it is the Magic Seed Brushless ESC 18


manojswizera

HI Roman , here is the orignal thread of Russ Trainer. Here u will find the Complete plans and dimensions.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1281056

Read the entire thread carefully before starting to build one.

I also build the same one with little modification, for rough dimensions u can see this thread.

http://www.rcindia.org/electric-planes/my-new-'high-wing-trainer'/msg109192/#msg109192

best of luck  :thumbsup:
Russ-40 Trainer, Mr.moss, Pushler, Skysurfer, Mugi , F-22, Red swan, Xtra-300, redfury, flying mantaray.

VinayakR

Hi romanxdsouza ,

As " swizera " said please go through original thread of Russ-40 on RC group. You will get all information needed.

Regarding build material I have used High Density thermocol (also known as Bio Foam ) instead of Depron as in the original plans. (Don't know where we get Depron in india)

High density thermocol is easily available and widely used for RC plans.

For making wings ,rudder ,elevator , horizontal stab and vertical stab  you can used 5mm  High Dencity thermocol  . I have used same (Check post #1 for material I have used). Mine was KFM wing as per the original plan . Aslo I have used same electronics as mentioned by author.

Your Prop and battery needs to change. I think it will be under powered.
Recomended Electronics by author is : (this works well :) )
•   E-Max 2812 1534kv with a 8x4  propeller
•   18a esc,
•   1000ma 3s lipo,
•   9g servos.

Take help of expert flyers to median after completing your plane.
-Vinayak

sagar borate

hi sir i want to make plan so u can help me...please rply on my email

VinayakR

Hi Sagar,

I check your profile for your email :) I found you have spent very less time on this site. (May be you have browse offline, I hope so) Still I would suggest to read more this forum. Lots of information flowing in it.

Go through complete thread you will find all required information , this forum is made for helping each other and sharing experience so I would rather prefer to solve queries (If I could off course  ;D) here itself . Also you will found lots of helping hands . I have completely learned scratch building from this forum only.

So please spend some more time and specify your queries. I'm sure you will find all answers. Good luck

-Vinayak

sagar borate


romanxdsouza

#44
hi vinayak.n  swizera. i plan on making the gws slow stick only difference in mine will be polydihedral wings cambered with ribs and wing mounts LE mount  25mm n TE wing mount 22mm....u think the electronics will work,tried buying styro foam in mumbai no one ever heard of it any other name for it


so for slow stick  do i use High density thermocol 5mm for wings coz i need to curve it cambered wings,radder ,elevator also 5mm High density thermocol what should i  say when i go to buy it ,whats it called. and how many mm ribs

romanxdsouza

chked out post #1 was nice.how did u make the polydihedral wings ..the tip dihedral wich glue did u  use, bio foam to wood wich glue is good and bio foam to bio foam wich glue.......most imp what is it called in are shops


romanxdsouza

HELP any PLANS AVAI,ABLE for a planes like a slow stick wich i can build with these  electronics,braught it all the way from germany,any plans same like slow stick diff size

VinayakR

Hello romanxdsouza ,

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how did u make the polydihedral wings ..the tip dihedral wich glue did u  use, bio foam to wood wich glue is good and bio foam to bio foam wich glue

I have used 5 mm and 10 mm High density thermocol for creating wing. My complete plane build using Hot Glue gun. Attached picture for your reference. (With hot glue you can build it very quickly however there is drawback of increase in weight)

I don't have any experience with under cambered wings with ribs , so I cannot help you here    :banghead:

we can simply find power setup by:
Power generated by Motor+ prop + battery  > Weigh of plane (AUW : All up weight including everything fuse+ wing+ electronics) 

romanxdsouza

Power generated by Motor+ prop + battery (u mean add up the power generated correct) them multiply by Weigh of plane (AUW : All up weight including everything fuse+ wing+ electronics)  sorry im new dint understand,