Self designed Sukhoi/HAL (FGFA) Pusher T-50/PAK-FA with Thrust Vectoring build

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ashJR7202

I was very much impressed after seeing Sukhoi T50, PAK-FA. So decided to build one from 5mm BioFoam!!!!!! It almost look same as F22  :headscratch: :headscratch:

I could not find any plans so downloaded few pics and started creating vector drawing in CorelDraw  :banghead:. Initial drawing is attached

i made it with 25" wingspan. Just finished cutting. But not sure when will I complete it... :giggle:, as don't hav much space in flat to keep one more....!!!!!!!!! :giggle: :giggle:

There might be few adjustments while actually building it and may need to be change few things in the drawing, that will be included in my final design. But I am attaching initial design in PDF and cut pieces in this post.

Will keep on posting as I progess...

Specs: wingspan 25"
Motor: 2212/06 2200 Kv, with 1600 mAh 3s Lipo & 5.5x4 or 6x4 prop
Servos 2x 9hxt with aileron/elevator mixing

Most probably painting in gray.
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ashJR7202

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ujjwaana

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ashJR7202

many thanks Ujjwaana, Flyingboxcar,

will keep it posted, as i progress!!!!! currently i hav cut everything little oversize, so that i will hav room for adjustment once i am sure will post new plan!!!

cheers
Ashish
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VC

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ashJR7202

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ashJR7202

progress..... still going on slowly.... after office hrs got some time so started joining all the parts and finalizing the design.

decided to make single axis thrust vector for this, along elevator. so designed and completed thrust vectoring unit.
below are the 2 videos, 1st for TV unit held in my hand and other one is after fitting it on PAK-FA..

soon will post detailed pictures on how it was built....
components used are 10 mm pinewood stick, thanks to Angad. used U-shape aluminium bracket for motor mount, is easily available in any aluminium shop, for axis used 24gm motor shaft (3mm). this motor was burnt in my earlier project, used bearing as well along the axis retrieved from same motor... used 15gm metal gear servo from RCtimer.

and of course most important my dremel helped me a lot in building this unit!!!!
here are videos





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buzz_rc


VC

Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional!

ashJR7202

:headscratch: :headscratch: :headscratch:

after seeing ur builds  :salute: :salute:, i think its otherway round!!!  :hatsoff:
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ujjwaana

Congrats Ash! this is an amazing build! You TV is perfect. Use of BL Shaft and bearing is a perfect plan! Do share the experience. What mixing are you planning for the TV?  360 deg TV would be even more demanding. All the best!
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dinil

cool build {:)} but does thrust vectoring works without EDF unit
you should post the flying video

PankajC

Ash, how are you calculating the torque required for the TV servos?
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ashJR7202

thanks for complement buzz, pankaj, dinil!!!

yes, TV do also work without EDF

@ Ujjwaana,
thanks buddy.... little bit overloaded with office work... will soon post details pictures of my TV system.
abt mixing i will be using gear channel on my DX7 and mix it with elevator, around 50% and 70% with flick of switch.
initially planning to maiden it without any vectoring and once comfortable will activate it in flight.

abt 360 degree, yes it is my next project, will mount it on my laser cut Su37 (WS 28").
but i am still struggling to build/design 2 axis mechanism for 360 degree movement.

but had few ideas...lets see....

Ashish
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ashJR7202

@ Pankaj,

ur build is amazing!!!!

for servo selection for TV, i dont have any formula for calculation, just observations from few threads. but after seeing thread from Dave (rcpowers), he has used hitec metal gear servos (either HS 82 MG or similar), say around 18-20 gms with around 3kg torque.
so as per my observation, i am going to use something similar. already purchased these servos
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=5192

but in ur case, its very huge, i think servos with 30gm and around 5kg torque would be enough!!! and of course it has to be METAL GEAR servo!!!!

one more thing, somewhere i read that for TV system it is not recommended to use prop size more than 6", if u use bigger prop then it exerts more gyroscopic effect on TV servos, so u may have to used good and high torque servos

hope this will help!!!

Cheers
Ashish
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Rooster

Superb mechanism..looks very sturdy.Would be intersting to see this thing fly. {:)}

naatumach

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Prefers working on designs than electronics.
No pre-made plans. Use blueprints, make calculations, build, fly, troubleshoot, fly again.

VC

Sirjee, unit lagao aur maiden karo. She will be a stunner and a beauty.
Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional!

ashJR7202

@ROOSTER, naatumach & VC

thanks guys!!!!!

i am little overloaded with office work, so still not completed this one  :banghead:

but will definatly complete it and maiden it!!!! i am also very much eager to see it flying.....my 1st TV project!!!

here are some detailed pictures of TV system
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Some more
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ashJR7202

Here are some pictures of progress on plane

1st pic is final design, and cut pieces
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ashJR7202

 {:)} {:)}
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ashJR7202

 {:)} (:|~
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ashJR7202

 (:|~ {:)}
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