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RC Models => Electric Planes => Topic started by: Aniket1995 on December 22, 2013, 03:36:11 PM

Title: Das Ugly Stick-Build Log
Post by: Aniket1995 on December 22, 2013, 03:36:11 PM
In to the Holidays with 'Ugly Stick'. :)

This is my first Balsa build. Today Officially started the work ;D
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Post by: Aniket1995 on December 22, 2013, 03:37:06 PM
Plans
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Post by: Aniket1995 on December 22, 2013, 03:39:45 PM
Started with the wing, cutting ribs...
Today managed to cut 8 ribs
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Post by: praveen on December 22, 2013, 07:43:18 PM
This is what i was telling you ! build yourself and fly it ,its a best way to learn !
any help you are always welcome! All the best :thumbsup:!
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Post by: Aniket1995 on December 22, 2013, 09:09:54 PM
Thanks praveen
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Post by: aman1256 on December 23, 2013, 03:26:25 PM
Good pics will be following thread :)
Regards,
Aman.
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Post by: Aniket1995 on December 24, 2013, 09:07:59 AM
thanks aman
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Post by: Aniket1995 on December 24, 2013, 09:08:55 AM
update
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Post by: Aniket1995 on December 24, 2013, 09:09:54 AM
....
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Post by: manojswizera on December 24, 2013, 10:53:21 AM
Good going Aniket. {:)}

very clean cuts.
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Post by: Aniket1995 on December 24, 2013, 04:43:40 PM
 :hatsoff:
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Post by: Aniket1995 on December 24, 2013, 04:48:08 PM
 8-)
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Post by: Aniket1995 on December 27, 2013, 07:04:27 PM
Main wing, Sheeting and servo tray installation left.
Length- 1400mm
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Post by: Aniket1995 on December 27, 2013, 07:07:16 PM
Building fuselage
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Post by: Aniket1995 on December 27, 2013, 07:10:47 PM
Used 3mm Balsa

length- 1100mm  8-)
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Post by: Aniket1995 on December 27, 2013, 07:20:26 PM
Thought of using,

Motor- Turnigy D3548/4 1100KV
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__18233__Turnigy_D3548_4_1100KV_Brushless_Outrunner_Motor.html (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__18233__Turnigy_D3548_4_1100KV_Brushless_Outrunner_Motor.html)

ESC- HobbyKing Red Brick 70A ESC
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__18010__HobbyKing_Red_Brick_70A_ESC.html (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__18010__HobbyKing_Red_Brick_70A_ESC.html)

LIPO- Turnigy 3300mAh 4S 30C Lipo Pack
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__9501__Turnigy_3300mAh_4S_30C_Lipo_Pack.html (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__9501__Turnigy_3300mAh_4S_30C_Lipo_Pack.html)

Prop- 12*6

Any other setups..? :headscratch:
Comments and suggestion are welcomed
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Post by: sanjayrai55 on December 27, 2013, 08:49:10 PM
Aniket, I have been following this build with interest.

I think the motor you have referenced is overpowered; it will be a battery guzzler and you would need 4000 mAH of LiPo capacity for a 10 minute flight (read 450-500 grams or so) on 3S; less on 4S

What are your model specs? Type of model (Sport, Trainer, Aerobatic, 3D) Span, expected or designed AUW? Without this info it is not possible to figure out a suitable motor/prop combo.

BTW a 3536 - 1400 motor is equivalent to a 20 Nitro

A 3542-1200 is equivalent to a 25
Title: Re: Das Ugly Stick-Build Log
Post by: Aniket1995 on December 27, 2013, 09:09:49 PM
@Rai Sir- Its a Trainer.
            Wing span- 1400mm
            fuse length- 1100mm

expecting approximately 2kg AUW.

Is the motor ok now...?
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Post by: sanjayrai55 on December 27, 2013, 09:57:58 PM
I'll get back to you tmrrw. 2 kg is a lot for a model of this size
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Post by: KALYANPRODHAN on December 27, 2013, 11:58:20 PM
The details is here for the plan & rest discussion.
http://www.eurekaaircraft.com/plan_kits/uglystick60.htm (http://www.eurekaaircraft.com/plan_kits/uglystick60.htm)
And if it is an electric model, HK donky 3007 will be fine with a 30-50A ESC and 2200mAH 25-30C battery with 920gm thrust.
I will prefer 10x4.7 SF prop with 50A red brick ESC with the battery above for a fine tuned power system.

Good luck.
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Post by: Aniket1995 on December 28, 2013, 09:23:06 AM
Thanks kalyan sir
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Post by: sanjayrai55 on December 28, 2013, 07:08:14 PM
I really would suggest you consider glow for this model. A .20~.25 would be dandy with a 9*6 prop
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Post by: EricOliver on December 28, 2013, 07:22:22 PM
Hi aniket ...how will you cover those wings...coro or covering sheets...??
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Post by: Aniket1995 on December 28, 2013, 07:28:44 PM
Hi EricOliver,.....Red covering film
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Post by: Aniket1995 on December 28, 2013, 07:33:40 PM
@Rai Sir- Any reason to go with glow?.... ??? ...why not electric? :headscratch:
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Post by: EricOliver on December 28, 2013, 07:39:59 PM
I think because you dont hav to run every time to charge your batteries ....on nitro just refuel and fly
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Post by: sanjayrai55 on December 28, 2013, 08:08:13 PM
Beyond a certain size & weight, electric becomes expensive, and very heavy. It is here that the optimum solution lies in nitro.

Of course, you have to consider many other factors, like a suitable field for Nitro.
Title: Re: Das Ugly Stick-Build Log
Post by: sanjayrai55 on December 28, 2013, 09:03:02 PM
You could try this motor with a 10*6 prop, and a 2200 mAh if you keep the AUW up to 1.4 Kg

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__18227__Turnigy_D3536_6_1250KV_Brushless_Outrunner_Motor.html (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__18227__Turnigy_D3536_6_1250KV_Brushless_Outrunner_Motor.html)
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Post by: KALYANPRODHAN on December 28, 2013, 10:45:21 PM
with glow, you can just fill the fuel and ready to fly again almost instantly. So more flying in field.
There are several other factors.
The most facinating of the glow engine than electric, to me, is the sound.
And if you have no glow, your aeromodeling is incomplete...
Title: Re: Das Ugly Stick-Build Log
Post by: Aniket1995 on January 07, 2014, 05:31:46 PM
@KALYANPRODHAN and sanjayrai-  :iagree: but considering the flying field i will go for electric. :thanks:
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Post by: Aniket1995 on January 07, 2014, 05:35:05 PM
Update
Wing sheeting complete. I am happy with the results :)
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Post by: Aniket1995 on January 07, 2014, 05:36:30 PM
Some more....
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Post by: Aniket1995 on January 20, 2014, 04:09:44 PM
Update. building vertical stabilizer
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Post by: Aniket1995 on January 20, 2014, 04:10:34 PM
horizontal stabilizer...
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Post by: Aniket1995 on January 20, 2014, 04:11:50 PM
completed wing..
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Post by: Aniket1995 on January 20, 2014, 04:14:28 PM
some more.....
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Post by: utkarshg13 on January 20, 2014, 04:47:26 PM
Great build... :hatsoff:
Title: Re: Das Ugly Stick-Build Log
Post by: Aniket1995 on January 20, 2014, 07:09:58 PM
 :thanks:
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Post by: utkarshg13 on January 20, 2014, 07:24:40 PM
Hello Aniket
Please tell where did you get the balsa you've used in your build.
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Post by: utkarshg13 on January 20, 2014, 07:28:51 PM
Hello Aniket
Your build is really very nice. Please tell where did you get the balsa you've used in your build...
:hatsoff:
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Post by: utkarshg13 on January 20, 2014, 07:30:01 PM
Sorry for posting twice. My internet connection crashed.. :banghead:
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Post by: maahinberi on January 20, 2014, 07:34:45 PM
Great build Aniket!!  :hatsoff: :hatsoff: :hatsoff:
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Post by: sanjayrai55 on January 20, 2014, 07:40:07 PM
 {:)} {:)}
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Post by: sanjayrai55 on January 20, 2014, 07:40:48 PM
What about Landing Gear?
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Post by: Aniket1995 on January 20, 2014, 09:32:49 PM
Thanks Maahin and Rai sir
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Post by: Aniket1995 on January 20, 2014, 09:33:33 PM
@utkarsh- bought it from rcbazzar
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Post by: K K Iyer on January 20, 2014, 10:38:10 PM
@aniket1955,
Hope you won't mind some suggestions.
1. Starboard wing top D tube sheeting has a joint between bay 1 and 2. This is a strict no-no. The wing depends on the D tube for its folding strength. The sheet should be continuous from centre to tip. As it will be impossible to change the sheeting now, please put a thin fibreglass patch on the top sheeting say 1 inch to both sides of rib no.2. (Before covering)
2. Centre bays bottom sheeting grain is chordwise. Will it provide any strength against bending?  It should be spanwise.
3. Also saw a patch in the centre section sheeting. Pl avoid such patches. The sheeting is not just to cover the holes, its meant to provide stiffness against bending and torsional load. Joints defeat this purpose.

Hope you find this useful for your next build. Meanwhile best of luck. Dont forget the fibreglass patch!

Edit: Just in case you have not come across the term D tube, look at the cross section of the wing. The top and bottom sheeting, along with the spars and webbing form a D shaped tube that is surprisingly strong. And what is webbing? The vertical grain sheet pieces fitted between the spars in each bay between adjacent ribs. Pl excuse if you already know all this stuff. Only trying to help.
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Post by: iwincar on January 21, 2014, 10:41:45 AM
It's looking very heavy hope it has proper motor to fly
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Post by: Aniket1995 on January 21, 2014, 12:50:59 PM
Thanks for the information Iyer sir. Thats useful for my next builds.
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Post by: sanjayrai55 on January 21, 2014, 01:58:51 PM
Quote from: Aniket1995 on January 20, 2014, 09:33:33 PM
@utkarsh- bought it from rcbazzar

I have not seen Das Ugly Stick kit in RCB. I do see the "Stick" with a normal (not round) Vertical Stab and non-crennelated 'rons
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Post by: Aniket1995 on January 21, 2014, 02:28:55 PM
sir not kit, only balsa sheets
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Post by: sanjayrai55 on January 21, 2014, 02:55:47 PM
Your plans call for a 45-60 Glow Engine. What motor do you plan to use? Have you scaled this down?
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Post by: sanjayrai55 on January 21, 2014, 02:59:17 PM
Before any comment or recommendation on the L/G, first finalise on your AUW and powerplant/prop