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RC Models => Electric Planes => Topic started by: kausha on March 06, 2014, 02:59:50 PM

Title: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: kausha on March 06, 2014, 02:59:50 PM
Hey, i had ordered one bixler and received it today. Now, i really need your help to build it fast.
Pls guide and help me throughout my build.
I first started with the wings, i am installing the horns, pls check the attachment if its correct.
I dont know if i am doing the right way, pls check and tell.
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: K K Iyer on March 06, 2014, 03:05:55 PM
Wrong!
Turn the horn around.
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: kausha on March 06, 2014, 03:09:34 PM
Done, and is it it fine that the end of screws are coming out from the front side of the wing ?
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: K K Iyer on March 06, 2014, 03:25:41 PM
No problem if screws poke out a bit on the top surface.
Hope the screws are threaded into a small mounting plate on the top surface, and not into the foam alone.
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: kausha on March 06, 2014, 03:26:32 PM
Yes, i have mounted it with a flat plate.
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: kausha on March 06, 2014, 03:29:54 PM
Now, the rod is not passing through the horns, pls help.
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: K K Iyer on March 06, 2014, 03:34:12 PM
Use a compass or dividers point to enlarge the hole SLIGHTLY. Not too loose.
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: K K Iyer on March 06, 2014, 03:35:13 PM
WAIT
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: kausha on March 06, 2014, 03:36:10 PM
Ok
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: K K Iyer on March 06, 2014, 03:38:06 PM
Does the pushrod have a Z bend at the other end?
If so, it will fit the servo arm.
The adjustable end should normally be at the the horn, and not on the servo arm.
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: kausha on March 06, 2014, 03:42:05 PM
Yes, it does have a z end. Done pls check.
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: K K Iyer on March 06, 2014, 03:54:14 PM
Right.
Now connect and switch on the radio and center the servo through the RC.
This is to check if the servo arm is mounted on the servo shaft perpendicular to the case.
If not you have to remove the servo and remove/refit the arm. Don't over-tighten the screw or it will strip the thread in the shaft.
Hope you haven't stuck the servo in already.
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: K K Iyer on March 06, 2014, 04:00:05 PM
Five others are also watching this thread!
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: kausha on March 06, 2014, 04:01:29 PM
The servo is already attached to the wings, tightly glued.
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: K K Iyer on March 06, 2014, 04:05:55 PM
Anyway, center the servo by the RC and check. Then adjust the length by screwing the clevis in or out.
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: kausha on March 06, 2014, 04:35:59 PM
Yes, it was pretty easy, pls check.
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: kausha on March 06, 2014, 04:52:56 PM
I am thinking to solder the circuit, pls let me know which wire and connector goes with what.
Pls check attachment.

And also, why are the holes made in the 3.5mm connectors ?
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: K K Iyer on March 06, 2014, 05:11:49 PM
Best way to do this.
Make three holes in a piece of wood with a 4mm bit, about 1cm deep.
Push the connectors in.
Heat the connector from the outside, and let solder melt inside. To get it started, you may have to keep the iron outside the hole, and let the solder touch it from inside. (Can't think of any other use for the hole!)
If not able to make the above wooden jig, put rubber bands around the handles of pliers. The connector can now be held in the plier's jaws without needing a hand. You will be needing one hand for the solder and one for the iron.
Don't forget the heat shrink tubing.
Can be connected in any order. If motor runs in reverse, interchange any two wires.
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: yash10896 on March 06, 2014, 05:58:40 PM
see this hope it helps cause soldering requires practice i myself burned my hands because i didn't had second person so be carefull

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_nr--nwGPo#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_nr--nwGPo#ws)
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: RCNeil21 on March 06, 2014, 06:21:30 PM
Having this tool really eases soldering a lot:
https://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__10615__Hands_free_small_item_holder.html (https://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__10615__Hands_free_small_item_holder.html)

And you can't self learn soldering without burning yourself somewhere or the other :banghead:

Unless you have the tool I mentioned ;D ;)
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: yash10896 on March 06, 2014, 06:23:32 PM
I also like that tool but my cheapness doesn't allow me to buy plier do well for me :P if you know what i mean :D ....
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: manojswizera on March 06, 2014, 07:26:49 PM
@ Chintal
just a small suggestion,
just put a small drop of hotglue on the small screws coming out from Ailerons,it will smooth the flow and mainly safe to hands on accidental part.
good going.
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: kausha on March 06, 2014, 08:29:16 PM
Hey, when i try to complete the circuit, i hear someweird beeps. How to configure the circusit as i put the connector from ESC into and slot in the receiver, i dont know in which slot i should insert and as i push the throttle, nothing happens. :-\
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: madaquif on March 06, 2014, 08:39:32 PM
hey kausha, post a pic of all the connections....
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: kausha on March 06, 2014, 08:42:58 PM
Pls xheck attachment.
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: madaquif on March 06, 2014, 08:47:41 PM
Did u calibrate that ESC?

if not....then call RCB and get help from them to calibrate the ESC
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: kausha on March 06, 2014, 08:49:22 PM
no, i did not, but what does that mean ?
i will call them right away.
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: madaquif on March 06, 2014, 08:52:46 PM


also check if the RX n TX are binded correctly..

with little knowledge I have (m still learning...:D )....I can only suggest this much ....requesting senior members to help
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: yash10896 on March 06, 2014, 08:57:29 PM
check if you are connecting to throttle channel and not aileron cause it seems 1st channel...

and binding could be a issue if you are using the tx for first time otherwise there should be no problem :)
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: madaquif on March 06, 2014, 08:59:44 PM
wohaaaaa.....add some heat shrink on the ESC Main wires before u proceed any further
man ...u might endup having burnt electronics....
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: kausha on March 06, 2014, 09:03:23 PM
Yup, will receive them tomorrow, instead i wrapped then will a adhesive tape.

tx and rx are properly bind, that should not be a problem. any idea which slot is for throttle i the receiver ?
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: madaquif on March 06, 2014, 09:14:20 PM
usually 3rd channel is for throttel
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: K K Iyer on March 06, 2014, 09:14:53 PM
Convention is
1. Aileron
2. Elevator
3. ESC/Throttle
4. Rudder

But i remember that when a friend got an Avionics 7ch, it was set up differently.
Read the manual to find out which port takes what.

The other issue is polarity. See if the Rx has markings for + & -.
The darkest wire of the three from the ESC is -ve.
See if you plugged it the right way. It will fit even if put in the wrong way.

Without heat shrink tubing be very careful. Put tape properly on all three. If they contact, minimum damage will be a burnt ESC. Maybe a Lipo explosion.
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: kausha on March 06, 2014, 09:27:33 PM
Ok, no sucess yet :(

Thnx for all yout support, especially Mr.K K Iyer. :hatsoff:
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: santhosh on March 06, 2014, 09:56:06 PM
off topic,kausha........ i booked a wl v911 from you , its not delivered and the money is returned by your hong kong supplier.
sent many pm to you and you didn't replied. got a pm from you today after a long  long gap, and hope you read my reply also. if you want to say any thing make it public not through pm :giggle:
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: kausha on March 06, 2014, 10:08:13 PM
Not funny really !
I know you bought a V911 from me, and made the payment through PayPal, but i had some misunderstandings with my supplier and i told the supplier to REFUND your money. I did it almost in a day. I did not cheat you.

I also know you had sent me many PMs and i had immediately replied stating this same problem but in a hurry, it was sent to RcNeil. You can ask him !!

I had not been for a while before some days as my exams were going and so, i messaged you.

As from my side, and the Rubbish reply you sent me was totally immature.
However thanks.
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: santhosh on March 06, 2014, 10:13:31 PM
wait dear
i  can post all our pm's regarding the wl v911 here ......be patient


good night .... cu tomorrorow ..... watch this space
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: kausha on March 06, 2014, 10:14:35 PM
Awaiting you. :)
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: santhosh on March 06, 2014, 10:29:11 PM
why you are saying ask to rc neil? i called you many times on your phone but you didn't took.do you know our fellow forum members jaiskj and arunsreelakam.... ( more to the ch.......ted list)......keep going dear ...all the best

santhosh
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: madaquif on March 06, 2014, 10:57:24 PM
WHY CANT PEOPLE  BE HONEST ...... THAT TO JUST FOR SOME MARGINAL AMOUNT..... :banghead: :banghead:
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: kausha on March 06, 2014, 11:54:37 PM
This is the problem i am facing, pls see.
http://youtu.be/AZ0i15Sh5yc (http://youtu.be/AZ0i15Sh5yc)
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: yash10896 on March 07, 2014, 12:14:40 AM
the motor is damaged it happen to me in my first build and that was very hurting as it was expensive.. and all you can do is buy a new one it is happen maybe because of carelessness while keeping it or any other reason...  :(

all the best!

Regards
yash
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: kausha on March 07, 2014, 09:56:41 AM
Ok, but are you sure its a motor problem only ? Because HKing told me it should be an ESC problem.
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: santhosh on March 07, 2014, 10:27:16 AM
kausha
i am sure the motor is faulty, i have experienced same problem with my quadcopter, finally changed the motor and all is ok
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: kausha on March 07, 2014, 10:28:34 AM
Ok, thnx.
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: kausha on March 07, 2014, 01:30:02 PM
So, heres the replacement motor: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__25544__hobbyking_bixler_2_epo_1500mm_replacement_brushless_motor_1300kv_.html (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__25544__hobbyking_bixler_2_epo_1500mm_replacement_brushless_motor_1300kv_.html)

But i need to buy in India so that i can receive it early, pls tell from where i can buy the same kind of motor.
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: moorthy on March 07, 2014, 01:48:00 PM
Link what you have posted is Bixler 2 motor 1300KV were as for bixler 1.1 2620-1900kv Brushless Outrunner but you can use.

Today got my bixler 2 and i have installed this D2826-6-2200kv.

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__12919__D2826_6_2200kv_Outrunner_Motor.html?strSearch=2826 (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__12919__D2826_6_2200kv_Outrunner_Motor.html?strSearch=2826)

Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: yash10896 on March 07, 2014, 02:18:28 PM
please upload a pic of your motor mount then i can suggest you one from LHS.. :)
Title: Re: My Bixler V1.1 Build
Post by: kausha on April 13, 2014, 10:17:33 AM
I am really sorry i could not send the pics, as i had sent the ESC and Motor to RcBanzzar to check, i received them before many weeks, i just had to replace it with a 30A ESC and it would run smoothly.
Now, just yesterday night i fetched out some time and started working on it,
Pls check the pic. I have made it dirty due to the imprints of the gum, thats annoying because a plain whoite looks cool. Now, there's a glitch, i am not able to insert the second screw inside. But i did fit the first screw.
Now, i have glued e back part of the wing because no screw was inserted, for safety, is it ok, should i habe done it ? Or any other method to rectify this.

Thanking you,
Kaushal.