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Started by VC, November 27, 2013, 11:47:00 PM

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VC

Gentlemen, I need help. Attaching the photograph of a geared / belt driven drive mechanism.

Please study the attached photograph carefully. As per my reckoning, the diameter of the drive (smaller) gear is approximately the radius of the driven (bigger) gear. If the smaller gear spins at 10,000 RPM, at what RPM will the larger gear spin? Intelligent Estimates / Guesstimates will be appreciated.

As per my reckoning, it should be around 2500 RPM.

Would appreciate a prompt reply.

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rastsaurabh

the RPM of larger gear would be 5000RPM

2pi R /2pi 2R =0.5

iamahuman

Your transmission ratio should be given my the ratio of number of teeth on the driven to number of teeth on the driving pulley.

EDIT: You can use the formula, (n1)/(n2)=(d2)/(d1)

Where n1, n2= Rotational speed of driving pulley and driven pulley respectively and d1, d2 is the diameter of the driving and driven pulleys respectively

Or you can use basic math like "rastsaurabh" and Sundaram sir.
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sundaram

5000

RPMx3.14x2xD=10000x3.14xD

RPM=10000x3.14xD/3.14x2xD=5000

VC

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Iamahuman - It is belt driven so the number of teeth is unavailable and redundant.
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iamahuman

You did say "geared/belt drive" which led me to think of something like this.

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VC

Ironical that my 5000th post on this forum would concern the number 5000. So be it.

I am taking the above data to be sacrosanct as prescribed by the pundits. At whatever RPM the DRIVE gear runs, it will generate half the revs on the DRIVEN gear, provided that the diameters of the two gears are 1:2. Therefore, at a 1: 4 ratio, I can hope for a 2500 RPM if the drive gear spins at 10,000 RPM. Right?

iamahuman - thanks buddy, I had mentioned geared / belt driven and NOT geared belt driven.  Grateful to you for having taken all the trouble for me. Thanks! :thumbsup:

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sanjayrai55

At whatever RPM the DRIVE gear runs, it will generate half the revs on the DRIVEN gear, provided that the diameters of the two gears are 1:2  Provided the module of the two gears is the same.  ;D

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chindichor

Answers are correct, the bigger gear will run half the speed of the smaller one. The maths goes like this:

1. Assuming the belt is non extendable and there is no slipping, in a given time time t it will travel same distance x over both the pulleys (gears).
2. Lets translate this x into circular movement, x = beta*R1 = alpha*R2 where beta is angle moved by smaller and alpha is angle by bigger, R1 and R2 corresponding radii.
3. Divide it with the time t, (beta/t) * R1 = (alpha/t) * R2
=> RPM_smaller * R_smaller = RPM_bigger * R_bigger

I guess this sketch may explain it better. (sorry for poor handwriting, been ages since I held a pen)



Also, when talking about circular motion, always use consistent terms. Never mix up radius and diameter, it is the easiest way to land into "divided by two" error.

Hope this helped.
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sundaram

 :bow: :bow:

was in not easier to say circumference of one gear multiplied by its RPM is equal to circumference of second gear multiplied by its RPM assuming there is no slippage in the gear or belt  :giggle:  :giggle:

chindichor

lol yeah, it is always easier to see distance and have a "ohyeah" moment and then come to speed from it. I guess I did complicate it though.  :-\
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saikat

actually in case of v belt pulleys - just
compare the dia and get the dividing / or multiplying factor.


VC

I feel I've been thoroughly educated. Thanks everyone.
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sundaram

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Quote from: VC on November 27, 2013, 11:47:00 PM
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VC dada I missed that in first read.  :hatsoff:. I am deeply honored. Thanks.

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VC

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* VC and Anwar test out the me tag...

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Apart from * and text highlight to red, the purpose of tag? :headscratch:

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VC

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rastsaurabh

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include me too!!!!

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:-)

chindichor

* chindichor is clarifying...

Sorry, didn't mean to hurt someone. I just go somewhat longer when explaining.  :giggle:
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Quote from: VC on November 28, 2013, 12:18:04 AM
Ironical that my 5000th post

after 5000 post, ones post count reduces....that is ironical...until it reaches 'Shunya' Then ...you have reached Nirvana/Moksha  :giggle:
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That is because a member with multiple threads and posts got deleted, which means some of the threads he started would also get deleted taking the post count of others who had participated in those threads.

Consider this a one off thing, hopefully should not happen again.  Such people are "karoron mein ek" ;)
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