Quote from: vinay on September 04, 2010, 11:26:57 PM
Today morning I was hacking my 8000 rs computer SMPS carelessly to bring this computer up. Now this thread is making me feel like Iam fighting for mere 650 rs.  Its making me feel cheap

8000 rs comp SMPS?? Which SMPS does your comp use??

Quote from: vinay on September 04, 2010, 11:26:57 PM
Today morning I was hacking my 8000 rs computer SMPS carelessly to bring this computer up. Now this thread is making me feel like Iam fighting for mere 650 rs.  Its making me feel cheap

Vinay my friend, had the onlinesbi.com site not been down for maintenance (try it and you will know that I am not lying) the money would have been deposited into the account nominated by you (standing in the name of Abhijith M) at 6:11pm. Go to sleep, your money is safe - my reputation is not. Step into my shoes now for a moment, you will REALLY know the meaning of "feeling cheap".

 Rajath, I tried about 70 odd turns, though the thumb rule is about 200 turns or so. I will test her outside tomorrow and will try and post a video for you.

Do read what Vinay has to say in the post above, it may be a bit too much to pay Rs.650/- for this glider with a 310mm wingspan, fuselage length of 290mm and an AUW of 19grams.

Regards,

VC
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Asked because i used a double loop on a model i have so it couldnt take more than 100. Iv seen images online where the rubber was is a single loop although it was too long for the distance between the tail hook and prop (the rubber was sagging). Some sites suggested that the rubber be left sagging a bit. Is this ok?

Ya, I had a friend here in bangalore who called me up immediately after reading this post and said,

"Hey - Last 2 Months back I had been to Forum mall, where they gave a small glider (like the ones you are holding in your hand - but not rubber powered, but some thing like pulling a thread.) free for buying a carbury worth 40 Rs, Iam wondering how come you paid 650 Rs for this."  I was speechless _ Iam not making up this story, he is an elderly and respected member of this forum. He asked me not to take up this topic, but you give me no choice.

BTW, VC 650 does not come for free! You dont have to mock at anyone for YOUR OWN MISTAKE!

You are giving a feeling to the forum that nobody should sell any items to me in the future, by saying again and again about the size and Iam not ready to compromise kinda thing indirectly.

What pissed me off is your words of - "NO common sense and candid statements" words publicly for no mistake of mine!

~Amen, Iam not commenting anymore on this thread. Please forgive me for buying the Item.

Please PM me the address to ship this item.

BTW your reputation is no where to go, we all still have the same respect to you.

Quote from: rajathv8 on September 04, 2010, 11:31:51 PM

Quote from: vinay on September 04, 2010, 11:26:57 PM
Today morning I was hacking my 8000 rs computer SMPS carelessly to bring this computer up. Now this thread is making me feel like Iam fighting for mere 650 rs.  Its making me feel cheap

8000 rs comp SMPS?? Which SMPS does your comp use??

750 TX corsair.

Quote from: VC on September 04, 2010, 11:34:14 PM

Quote from: vinay on September 04, 2010, 11:26:57 PM
Today morning I was hacking my 8000 rs computer SMPS carelessly to bring this computer up. Now this thread is making me feel like Iam fighting for mere 650 rs.   Its making me feel cheap

Vinay my friend, had the onlinesbi.com site not been down for maintenance (try it and you will know that I am not lying) the money would have been deposited into the account nominated by you (standing in the name of Abhijith M) at 6:11pm. Go to sleep, your money is safe - my reputation is not. Step into my shoes now for a moment, you will REALLY know the meaning of "feeling cheap".

Hey VC you made a mistake and you appologised for it with a money back option! What more can you do?? You are not forcing anything on anyone. Relax, its not entirely your fault.

Rajath, this is my second model and I flew both as they came in with single loop. Just wait till tomorrow, let me test it outdoors and I will let you know.

Cheers!

Vinay, I don't think either of us are really behaving like Forum Heroes at the moment and I wonder what kind of example we are settiing for others to follow. I apologise for the goof up and will refund the money as soon as the site is up (9am IST 5th.Sep 2010). Bear with me.

Quote from: VC on September 04, 2010, 11:48:37 PM
Vinay, I don't think either of us are really behaving like Forum Heroes at the moment and I wonder what kind of example we are settiing for others to follow.

Very True I guess!

Quote from: VC on September 04, 2010, 11:48:37 PM
will refund the money as soon as the site is up (9am IST 5th.Sep 2010). Bear with me.

Ya, Another sentence to make me feel that I am standing on the top of your head to pay my money back! I will never talk to you in my life VC, Thanks for insulting me! GN.

Quote from: VC on September 04, 2010, 11:12:22 PM
I too, didn't expect that all three of you would ask for a refund just because you bought a glider and couldn't convert it to RC and then tell me, publicly, that it is for static display only. The issue is not really the size here, is it?

VC

As far as I'm concerned - The product I ordered and the one received are not the same.
Appreciate your gesture of offering refund for the same.
Thanks.

Vinay, I think you must be a much younger man than I thought you to be. I would love to be your friend, anytime. In your place, I would have reacted just the way you have done, you've done nothing wrong - no hard feelings. You take care and enjoy flying. Let me know if you need any assistance from me in future. Thanks for this statement, I really appreciate it - "BTW your reputation is no where to go, we all still have the same respect to you." Thank you my friend. Galati ho gaya bhai, Maaf kar do.

Drone, I appreciate your feelings. Thanks for being so gracious.

Good night.

Hi all,
Its really sad to know that our Forum Hero has been doped by a retailer. Its seems that the retailer had not helped much in disclosing the details to VC sir. and VC, in trying to help out others took the initiative to search for the details on the manufacturer site, so that forum members can will get proper idea of the product they r buying.

thats where the problem started: the website
http://www.lyonaeec.com.hk/R_series/R_home.htm

clearly shows the model VC sir dealt with in 'R' series (R4, R5) which is 480mm wingspan!! Thats where VC got the number!

But models shown in 'B' series are totally different
http://www.lyonaeec.com.hk/B_series/b_home.htm

'B' series is of 385mm wingspan. But I think as the model is listed only in R series VC was made to believe that its 480mm, Thanks to the non-cooperation from the dealer!!

I really appreciate VC's gesture of refunding money. that too when he had already incurred a loss in the shipment and was selling it for a loss to begin!

On other hand, just today afternoon I happened to see some kids happily playing around with 2 of these very models.

VC got the balsa i perfect shape, will try to assemble it soon. 

Thank you, my friend. Thank you for trying to redeem me. I am so sorry that I am in the middle of all this controversy and that is causing all of you so much of trouble.

Hi VC,

I have received the parcel today. I thought of assembling the SF260. But found one issue, plastic tail mount is little bend. Have a look the pics attached. I thought of slightly heat and straighten. is this recommended?

let me know the simple best technique to make it straight.

Regards
Dileep

Just heat it in water so that it will not melt and you can straight it

This speaks rather poorly of the DTDC services. Dip the part gently in hot water till it is soft enough and bend it back in shape. Give it some time to cool down thereafter. Is anything else broken? I am not being able to call you as I have lost many numbers from my phone after the memory card crashed.

VC, Dont take my words in a wrong way, But those plane boxes are rather too thin to take a long ride. I mean they are just as thick as tooth paste boxes and any courier services wont care whats inside.

The only other way is to trasnfer using a costly courier which is not viable, or use a hard cardboard box to pack stuff. Writing Fragile wont help as they still have to transport the same amount of cargo in a given lorry, else everyone would have written Fragile.

I have packed the planes ready to be shipped back. I will attach some picture of the repacking I made for the same boxes. I dont know how much help it will be of, but for the lack of time Iam going through this week, this is all I could do.

Pic 1)First layer of bubble wrap.

Pic 2) Added padding and filled up extra space to make it distribute pressure.

Pic 3)Another layer of bubble wrap extra added.

GOD knows where has my parcel dissappeared
i   .........if anyone finds it lying at their doorstep please send it to me

At last after weeks of patient waiting I got my stuff.....the winder is a very good thing both as a collectible and for usage
the B2 was a litlle broken from the end along with 1 rubberband. BUT MY TRUSTY CYNO IS ALWAYS THERE WITH ME...SO FIXED...
all the balsa kits were fully intact not a break......
all in all i am happy with the stuff.....
NOW ANY ONE HERE ?WHO CAN  PROVIDE ME WITH TANSPORT RUBBERBANDS

Thanks Akky! But again I am sorry that I didn't do a good enough job on the packing.

Wow VC bhai, this thread is like whooa kinda..Anwar should have put a exploding dynamite besides the thread instead of the red folder...
hey and another thing! you shouldn't feel bad for what happened, you tried your best and are promoting the hobby. The dealer "spiked your wheels" so no harms! happens sometimes..
as someone said "business baby, business!"

the packing was good but the problem which no one could have noticed was that the lifted attachments of the tail... would get bend

So akky! when are you planning to assemble your glider?

Thanks Dorwin! I've learnt some valuable lessons, practically, from this deal (Luckily, the balsa gliders went off smooth) and these lessons have made me a wiser man. At the end of the day, I see this as a Win - Win situation for me, inspite of the Rs. 4000 odd financial loss!

Lesson 1. People react differently to a given situation. How they choose to react is their Responsibility (The ability to choose a response to a given situation = Response + Ability). I learnt this from my Guru, Stephen Covey.

Lesson 2. No matter how hard you try and how sincere you are - In any process, if one single sector is beyond your total control - that is where things can go wrong (Murphy, are you listening?) and probably will go wrong. Look what DTDC did to my consignments. So do remember to take account of that sector, because you alone are accountable for it.

Lesson 3. Unlike a Product, the quality of a Service can change every day. Today an airlines operates all flights on time and the next day, 2 of them crash. People remember the last taste of the service. Pepsodent toothpaste can't turn bad in one day, the services of your dhobi, can! Till yesterday, DTDC was a trusted courier for me and VC was a trusted name on this forum. Today, however.................

Lesson 4 The most severe learning of all. CHECK, CHECK AND RECHECK the quality and specs of what you are going to sell. The buyer is spending his hard earned money and will react if he does not get what he paid for. Now this takes me back to Lesson 1!

Cheers!

VC - probably could have posted a more pleasant / mundane 1000th log, but then, this is reality.

Actually yes! you are right, we are all humans and we all think differently, its just that crap happens sometimes, but that's life, isn't it?
You know the negative sides of dealing in these kinda situations so probably you wont repeat that error! and be wiser as the clock ticks!
well! looking on the bright side! just yesterday, some kittens in my building scrapped and tore my hard worked Transall as she was drying in the lobby!
but I received my CH 53 Fuselage today, and it will keep me occupied for another month or so, till I finish detailing her to the finest bird!

but as I said "its life, and crap happens"