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VERY GOOD BEGINNER PLANE

Started by RcBharat, May 16, 2012, 03:58:57 PM

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RcBharat

Hello Everyone

We are taking pre-orders for the much awaited model "SUSAN V2" ARF version.
The specifications of the model are

Wingspan: 50"
Chord: 7"
Fuselage Length: 38"
Fuselage Height: 4"

Package Includes
1x SUSAN V2 with prefixed control horns
1x 930Kv Brushless Motor (For beginner) / 1200kv Brushless Motor (For Intermediate)
1x 30Amp ESC
1x 9x6 hard composite propeller
1x 2200Mah Lipo Battery pack
4x 9grm Servos
Accessory pack containing clevises, pushrods, gold connectors, Battery connectors etc.

Required
4ch Tx/Rx

Price for the beginner's version: 7599/-+Shipping
Price for the Intermediate/Advanced version: 7699/-+Shipping

Anyone can book this beauty by paying 3000/- and the expected delivery date is 25-05-2012.

Interested people can PM us or contact us at or call us at 09989120724

Pics Enclosed.

-Sai Krishna
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punty


RcBharat

Thanks Punty  :)

Hope everyone likes this
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ujjwaana

#3
With all due appreciation to your efforts, please avoid using such Dogmatic phrase like "BEST BEGINNER PLANE EVER" ...
You plane does look almost ARF, even though I guess its scratch build, neat, but there are many, many things which goes to make a plane 'Best', most important - time and word of mouth.....

Do you understand that you are discrediting other highly coveted trainers like Cub, Cessna, Tiger, Easy Star etc.
This forum does provide space for commercial advertisement, but don't make it a trash marketplace like todays's TV and Telebrands where people put tag line out of nowhere (PSPO, ZPTO, DHA Blah Blah!!) .

There are other sellers on this forum who sell in house models and sell ARF. I have never seen them pitching their models in this kind of language.
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RcBharat

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anwar

Moved to "For Sale" board, as this topic does not conform to the rules for posting the "Deals and Special Offers" board.

http://www.rcindia.org/deals-and-special-offers/rules-for-posting-in-the-deals-and-special-offers-section/
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shauviks

@rc bharat price too high. i guess roopesh sir's main motive was to provide it in low cost but this seems just the opposite....
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RcBharat

#7
Hello
this is including all the electronics except the radio.don't guess any thing when your posting publicly.you can confirm with roopesh regarding the same.
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shauviks

@rc bharat max cost of eletronics will be around 3.5 k. no offence just giving my opinion... reducing the cost will encourage many beginners to join the hobby... anyways this was just my opinion
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RcBharat

Quote from: shauviks on May 16, 2012, 09:55:13 PM
@rc bharat max cost of eletronics will be around 3.5 k
Calculate once again dude.

Anyways thanks for your feedback
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shauviks

1x 930Kv Brushless Motor (For beginner)-1000-1200
1x 30Amp ESC-550
1x 9x6 hard composite propeller-100
1x 2200Mah Lipo Battery pack-900-100
4x 9grm Servos-180*4/200*4
total=======3450/-
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aviator

I think price is OK.
Roopesh sir as i know would have tried to give the best competitive price and where do u get such a hand crafted beauty at under 10K that too with battery included.
Price is justified considering the flying abilities this plane has! A perfect choice for a begineer..!!

Pradeep

just a saying "different people different view" :) :) we will be happy with what we get rather spending more on the same kind of models from overseas :) ...lolzzz.. no offence at alll :)

VC

I wouldn't like to comment here, except that - anything designed by Roopesh HAS to be a success. Full stop.
Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional!

aviator


gbisht

I totally agree with shauviks, the moto was to provide Planes @ very low price,
I also read that thread and was expecting something cheaper then this

My opinion is price are a bit high,

Wait is over......again have to build own
HSP 1/10 Nitro Tyrannosaurus Off-Road Truck
Thunder Tiger 1/10 SSK V2 Nitro Truck with Radio
HK-300 3 Channel 2.4ghz FHSS Ground Radio
Turnigy 9x 8-Channel
HK-250GT

aviator

Gbisht - Pls let us know about the expectations on very low price.
How much were you expecting?

aviator

@ Shauviks and Gbisht -

I have been working on the price angle and here's what i arrived at :

1. Motor - 1100 Rs.
2. ESC - 900 Rs.
3. Battery - 1200 Rs.
4. Servos - 880 Rs.
5. Prop - 130 Rs
6. Connectors etc - 200 Rs

Total for electronics - Rs. 4410

Listed price is Rs. 7599.

Remaining price is Rs. 7599-4410 = 3189 Rs.

Rs. 3189 for such a beauty isn't much! Look at the paint and finish plus the decals.

He has done the Job by designing this and making in bulk for the beginners use. I, personally, felt in love with it after seeing the sea beach video. Such a stable plane it is even with ailerons!!!

It's good for a beginner to have it and learn the flight basics plus loops at a later stage without the need to change over to another RC Plane!

Also, I request anyone to point a link at other LHS/Overseas site for a similar plane for better pricing comparison!! The point is, price must be compared comparatively and not on one alone basis!

P.S : Electronics have been calculated on regular LHS rates who maintain good Inventory.
And yes, I don't represent RCBharat here but to be true, m a fan of Roopesh sir and his works!
 :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute:




RcBharat

Thanks very much Karun. :hatsoff: :hatsoff:

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gbisht

Avaitor : I am also big fan of Roopesh Sir and admire his work.

but here we are taking about what Roopesh Sir commited in blog, plz consider my price calculation

http://www.hobbysea.com/index.php?categoryID=1
----------------------------------------------------------
1 x HobbyKing Red Brick 30A           530.00
1 x FC 28-22 Brushless Outrunner 1200kv       590.00
or
1 x FC 28-12 Brushless Outrunner 1534kv       480.00
4 x HXT900 9g / 1.6kg / .12sec Micro Servo      700.00
ZIPPY Flightmax 2200mAh 3S1P 25C          850.00

Prop (Your Price)               200.00
Connector (Your Price)            200.00

Total Cost with FC 2822 Motor =   3070.00
Total Cost with FC 2812 Motor =   2960.00

Which is also LHS, Vineet local to Delhi

I am also not here for comparison but we are just putting our view. and this is my last blog in this topic and dont want stretch this discussion

and at the end of the day.........Sai Sir  can purpose any price and its buyer call to accept that offer or not.

Thanks

HSP 1/10 Nitro Tyrannosaurus Off-Road Truck
Thunder Tiger 1/10 SSK V2 Nitro Truck with Radio
HK-300 3 Channel 2.4ghz FHSS Ground Radio
Turnigy 9x 8-Channel
HK-250GT

RcBharat

Just to make sure that the real dream behind this marvelous plane comes true and it lands into the hands of beginners at the most competitive prices, We will be taking the first 5 orders at 6890/- and Free shipping. Also note that this offer is for first 5 pieces only. The point behind is to hear the voice of real people flying it rather than making prejudice !!

Interested folks can contact us for the pre-bookings.

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aviator

Quote from: gbisht on May 17, 2012, 12:44:00 AM
Avaitor : I am also big fan of Roopesh Sir and admire his work.

but here we are taking about what Roopesh Sir commited in blog, plz consider my price calculation

http://www.hobbysea.com/index.php?categoryID=1
----------------------------------------------------------
1 x HobbyKing Red Brick 30A           530.00
1 x FC 28-22 Brushless Outrunner 1200kv       590.00
or
1 x FC 28-12 Brushless Outrunner 1534kv       480.00
4 x HXT900 9g / 1.6kg / .12sec Micro Servo      700.00
ZIPPY Flightmax 2200mAh 3S1P 25C          850.00

Prop (Your Price)               200.00
Connector (Your Price)            200.00

Total Cost with FC 2822 Motor =   3070.00
Total Cost with FC 2812 Motor =   2960.00

Which is also LHS, Vineet local to Delhi

I am also not here for comparison but we are just putting our view. and this is my last blog in this topic and dont want stretch this discussion

and at the end of the day.........Sai Sir  can purpose any price and its buyer call to accept that offer or not.

Thanks



Gbisht - I appreciate your concern regarding price.

Please compare the motors below, the first one is fitted in SUSAN and the second one is the one you mentioned in your post :

Fitted in Susan - http://www.goodluckbuy.com/mystery-a2212-15-930kv-outrunner-brushless-motor-for-rc-helicopter.html?&sl=en

Mentioned in your post - http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=5354

Hope the price is justified!

Further, request you to consider the following:

1. LHS like RCbharat, RCbazaar, RChobbyaddict have to pay VAT + Taxes too. Please correct me if I am wrong.

2. Supply chain management (SCM) takes into consideration the cost of carrying inventory. Pls see at inventory build up at the listed LHS.


And for my little experience and faith in work of Roopesh sir, I personally commit u 100% refund if u r not satisfied with this plane!!

Please don't take me wrong on this!! 

BTW Mr. Sai please book one for me. Will be transferring money Tomorrow.  :hatsoff: :hatsoff:

RcBharat

1 booked for aviator

Only 4 remaining to avail the discounted price
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roopeshkrishna

Respected Modellers.. i have some words about this effort.. if, not it will be like "Guru ninda" means, cursed by Guru, as i need not to take that curse.. in reality, the idea of a good stable slow+ high speed flyer came in to my mind, by the inspiration of ever veteran aero Modeller of Kerala, is Mr Vinod Madhavan, to me, he is my elder brother than a Friend, and a perfect Guru in my aero modelling, as we were enjoying tea at home, after some hardworks, with Nikin who is my Colleague, is an Aeronautical engineer, working in a prestigious institution, as i discussed with both.. in my dream, was a stable flyer that fly easily.. so, it became a fire among us.. so, within a short time, the scene was the realization of a craft, with full knowhow available with us.. at first, the main criteria was the performance, but not the appearance.. so, the Susan 1 born.. i thanking a million time to Vinodettan, and Nikku, for this great effort with me.. and we gone for test flight.. at first, the craft came too stable in the hands of Vinodettan, all the while, and he showed us its dramatic capacity of flight.. this test was conducted even without servo screws inserted.. then he gave me the TX , and the experience was something amazing.. the feel was at the controls to me like a 4 wheel craft, with a traction control, while the resposne was just like biting on a piece of butter.. she flown well balanced without any fingers on TX.. the flight sustained about 30 minutes.. then came back, as rain spreads.. at back home, my way of thinking came in a way, that to share this excellent craft to others.. and i requested to Vinodettan to promote this one to all.. but as he was not interested, i talked many, and last Sai agreed once.. then, i realized that my state of health is not allow me to go for a hardwork, to meet the need of Sai.. so, i made an arrangement, with Vinodettan, to produce this craft in a mass scale.. but, the price with Sai, became not a match, with Vinodettan, as his idea was to use mechanisations in production.. so, it came back in my head.. still i was trying to keep away, from Sai's request, as i clearly know about my body.. but, realizing one fact, that about a good looking craft, with nice performance, keeping this on my shelf was not fair feel to me.. so, i re engaged with Sai, with a word of extra time to work, with my health issue.. as he agreed, i was struggling to maintain my words with Sai..
Phoenix.........

roopeshkrishna

so, from some persistant request from Sai, and from my Friends all over, thought about a second and thirdth craft, with more revised charecteristics.. so, i designed V2, and V3 as pusher, and V3 is still under some developments, and stopped temporarily, as i have to complete the work for Sai.. so, the V2 became even more hit, even among us ourselves.. and with my Friends here.. so, i told Sai to give more importance to V2, as it looks good and performs good.. with its clip on type wing, it behaved very nicely all the while..  the V2 was test flown by Nikin, and even he was enjoying the flight all the while.. the whole test flights were conducted not by me, but by Nikin, is an avid aeromodeller, and gave me the word as good.. so, i have a clear idea about two crafts, as those certified by two experts in the segments.. so, with some minor adjustments, and with some guidances, i hope this craft will behave good up to you all.. 

and some cost criteria.. making a coro plane is easy, and it tooks only a little money.. but we have to consider some facts..  actually i was suing these stuffs on test flights is all given by Vinodettan, as i am not much rich to buy all these as new.. the motor and all stuffs were costly, and i found even a 7.4 volt second hand motor costs about 600/-Rs.. here is the list that i used in same crafts..

AEW 2836 Brushless Motor 880KV
Stock Number: AEW-1306

Rs. 1040.00

Stock Status:

Specifications:
RPM/V: 880
Max watt (W): 243
Max Current (A): 16.8
Shaft Diameter (mm): 4.0
Weight (g): 70
Motor Size (mm): Ф28*36
Ri (Ω): 0 .107
Suggested Prop: E Power Prop 10x6 E
Suggested Esc: Speed Controller 40 amp
Li-Po: 2-4 cells


EMAX GT2815-07 KV1100   these are the motors i used with both crafts, later replaced with 1000 and 1300 RPM motors costs about 800 and 950 /-Rs..

Fully max 25C, 11.1V 1800mAh 3cell

Stock Number: AEW-6305

Rs. 1410.00

Stock Status:

Specification

Battery Configuration: 11.1V 1800mAh 3cell
Battery Capacity: 1800mAh
Max Continuous Discharge (C-rate/current): 25C
Max Burst (3Sec) (C-rate/current): 50C
Approx Dimensions H x W x L (mm): 19.5x35x104
Approx Weight (g): 145.5
Max Charging rate: 2C
this was the battery..
Phoenix.........