seriously it is time that we take measures like paisa pay in ebay
Next Time i want to Sell anything then i would use Ebay

this is getting to be a serious issue here... i happen to know this guy as my hometown is mysore...will try to contact him...

Sounds like a genuine case, it should get resolved amicably. 

But sending items before receiving the money should always be frowned upon, especially if the buyer urges the same.

Quote from: saikat on February 17, 2011, 07:50:47 AM
and he confirmed that he has received them.

Do you still have courier slip ? did the courier reported successful delivery at door step ? If so, please go ahead and file a former police complaint. If not full  recovery, he would would end up being troubled by the Mysore police and end up paying something.

Thanks for all the concern

> Engines sold were 2 cox .049 and one AP.06

> Yes I have the courier slip and yes the package was delivered.


   

Fraud Season, Supposed to be a winter month, AC on full blow, top it all, these guys, I tell you!!

Had got a query from this guy for depron sheets long back. Called me many times but he dint buy from ebay.
Luckily dint sell him 
This is the reason I prefer ebay even though they take 5% commission, transaction will be flawless

I may have something to add to this line of buyer and sellers.
I am just waiting to ensure that my money is in the bank before I rate the seller negatively

I see that the thread title has been edited -

A misnomer as "Caveat Emptor"  in its literal form
does not fit my situation as I am the seller (or in this case donator/giver)

I merged into an existing thread about Classifieds issues.  It was already a sticky thread, thereby ensuring some level of visibility to anyone coming to the "For Sale" board.

I think I will change the thread name to something like "Beware of dealing with these people" or something to that effect

Here is my experience of dealing with Mr. Edgeman (on the forum)
The gentleman advertised a Kavan planetary gear starter for sale along with a Lipo pack (later vide post #7), The starter was said to be used only twice and in pristine condition. Have a look at the thread.
http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/kavan-planetary-gear-german-starter-and-hitec-servos-nib/
The gentleman also posted the link to Kavan site for the specs of the item for sale.
http://www.kavanrc.com/cgi-bin/dpsmart.exe/IndexText/F0650E.html?E+Kav
Now if you see the link you would see, the specs are satrter with universal NiCd holder.
The quoted price for the starter and Lipo was 8200.
I sent the gentleman a PM where I wanted only the starter and not the the Lipo. I offered 5K for starter alone. I was persuaded that if I took the Lipo as well, the entire package would be offered for 6K. I plumped for the deal.
Transfered the amount to sellers account
A few days later while following up on the item the seller accidently disclosed that the starter did not come with the NiCd holder. He even insisted that I was under wrong impression. When checked again and pointed out, it was said that it was mistake on his part to post the wrong link.
I asked the seller to cancel the deal and refund my money, suddenly the seller was very defensive and argumentative, my bad that I did not sense a rat then. The seller further offered to reduce the sale price by 1K and send the items.
In few days I received the package, it had the starter, the LiPo pack and a cheque for 1K.
On inspecting the contents, the starter was in bad shape, badly scrtached, the croc clips badly rusted and the starter could not even crank up my 2 T 90 engine.
The used LiPo was absued one, wires resoldered, shrink wrap was local and had enough dog hairs inside the transparent shrink wrap. I did not even want to connect that pack to anything.

I took relevant pictures and contacted the seller asking for full refund . All this was done after I had safely shipped back the items back to him and was sure that it must be about to reach the seller.

Had to follow up various times to get my money back, for some strange reason the seller was not ready to do a online transfer or account deposit, he insisted on sending a cheque the old fashioned way.
Any way the cheque was received finally and deposited im my account.

Kudos to the the seller for atleast agreeing to refund and take things back.
But what irks me is why do people misrepresent things.
Have pictures which I woud post later tonight/early tomorrow

Beware of dealing with Edgeman   

confirming the payment b4 shipping the item will avoid everything.

In response to post # 36
How ??
for the last two cases brought out here, the payments were sent before items were shipped, the buyers got lemon

I told tat from seller's side..For the engine's case.

My experience with Mr. Edgeman had been equally bad and I feel I was stupid to have not seen the pictures before I made the deal with him.

"Os 46 FX only 5 to7 tanks used in mint condition" ------------Engine fairly used. Throttle jammed
Slimline pitts muffler for OS 46

"2.5 inch Alumunium spinner with adaptor" ------------ Spinner cracked. Threads on spinner bolt worn out

APC and Wodden props various sizes all for for 46 engine
Fuel tank
"Coolpower synthetic oil 1 litre" ---------------- Oil just about 750 ml in an opened bottle

Hotshot glow booster with charger -------------Battery doesn't hold chargeHobbico electric fuel pump

Great  Planes Quick fuel filler -----------------Mounting nut missing. Without the nut can't use the fuel filler

Hobbico Volt Watch Battery monitor

46 size fibre glass adjustable mount with hardware ------ No hardware. I was told to buy it from the local hardware store


Beware of dealing with Mr Edgeman.
Infact I feel no deal should go through without actual photographs.
It would be great if the feedback was entered into the sellers profile after every sale.
Flying Boxcar, I urge you to enter a feedback for the dubious seller.
Regards to all
Doc

Flying doc
I beleive if you would have given him the appropriate feedback I would have been saved the trouble.
I was waiting for my cheque to clear before leaving feedback for our friend. I have done that already

Here are the pics of the stuff I had received

I have always been asking people to leave feedback after sales.  In the comments, please post a link to the "For Sale" item also.

Classifieds sales here have not only helped many people get into the hobby, but also have given birth to new LHSes too. I earnestly consider it as a true accomplishment, regardless of all the criticism I have had to face over "too much commercial talk". 

We will NOT let a few bad apples ruin it for everyone...  PERIOD ! 

It is amazing how people conveniently forget the golden rule : "Do not wish for others what you do not wish for yourself"

Quote from: flyingboxcar on February 17, 2011, 11:45:33 PM
Flying doc
I beleive if you would have given him the appropriate feedback I would have been saved the trouble.
I was waiting for my cheque to clear before leaving feedback for our friend. I have done that already

I had done that as soon as the starter post had come out. I don't know where it has gone.
I'll put it again.
Hope no one has to go through this again
Doc 

Dear Administrator Sir,

Every thought of creating a publicly viewable Black List? Any member / LHS who has  negative comments (not negative ratings) posted against him by a minimum of 3 different buyers (the number of buyers / comments may vary, as per your dsicretion) deserves a dishonourable mention in the list. This may serve as a warning / caution for all newbies entering into a financial deal with them. Once this is in place, all such bounty hunters would stop treating this forum as a place to make a fast buck.

Since we have already have a + Rating / - Rating in place, implementing this (as a Ready Reckoner) should not be a problem.

Just a suggestion.

Sometimes a seller may cross the line and may well be just a cheat. Why not remove them from the forum and "remember" them and any contacts in a "avoid-these" list.

Any list can be fooled.  But if we maintain a list of peoples names and addresses (not just forum usernames), that will help.  I am open to creating such a list (even on the first post of this thread).

Legal action would really make an example out of someone, barring the hassle.

Linking into this thread... as it is another case of classifieds gone wrong.

http://www.rcindia.org/rc-outlets-and-resellers/tiger-60-with-os-61-from-madhavan-yumy-cub-maker-(www-aerotec-co-in)/

about Mr Edgeman,

Some more light on the matter.

initially, i spoke to him for OS 46 engine and the mount and some knick knacks, we agreed for 7k (What was i thinking ) i sent my man with the money all the way, and when contacted, he says "I have changed my mind it is now 8k" exactly like it happened with VC, sometime ago.

I suspected if it is the same bloke and sent a PM to VC, to come out with it, we still do not know who it was, atleast now we are lil bold in coming out with it, i really thank divay for that, for emboldening us, through his "radio thread"

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