Hi,
I want to sell my easy star with all the electronics. you just need your battery, Rx, and TX. ( Plane is Used )
Motor, Prop, ESC & 2 Servos Included.
Expected price 5500/-
Shipping At actual.
Thanks And Regards,
Sumit Nathwani
+91 9665823493
specs and photos please...
Photos I will post in evening. :) It took time to decide weather to sell it or not... Right now in office.. Wait till evening for photos.
SPAD ready for flying?
Collecting funds for that only sir. Planning to purchase engine, and all the stuffs... Even I am eager to fly it ASAP :)
Use a 46, standard servos. Check the push rods, you might want to change some. Been 2-3 years since it's been flown. Good luck, and keep us posted
Yes sir.. I will do that.
Bump!
send me the photo am interested
ok. wait till evening. my camera is not working.
Sorry, was busy for 2 months....
What happened to that Spadet I gave you?
i was busy with the office stuffs since 2-3 months so did nt get time to do anything.... will statrt getting in all this again in few days... will update you on the progress...
You had also promised to send something to Anand in Navi Mumbai. I guess you forgot
Yes i rem dat.. I will visit field this weekend and will do that :)
Hello sumit,
I am interested in buying this model, but I am concern about the cost u have mention. As the new model similar to this cost about approximately same . So if there is price relaxation I will go forward to start processing ur payment.
Regards
Kiran
Hi Kiran,
FYI ez* is no more available in the market. Another thing u will get ez* 2 KIT in that price. Electronics excluded. Price will go down for serious buyers. You can call me up anytime.
Regards,
Sumit
9665823493
Ok thanks ...
Sold!!! Kiran_93 is buyer. deal is fixed. Thank you!
Hello sumit,
I m trying to reach u via phone to ask about the shipping of the model, but ur phone is switch off, so please let me have the status of the shipping. As per your last msg u said ur going to ship it on Saturday or sunday. So still waiting for your reply.
sorry for inconvenience. Sending you alternate number to reach me in PM.
Quote from: sumitnathwani on July 15, 2013, 08:16:43 PM
sorry for inconvenience. Sending you alternate number to reach me in PM.
Hello Sumit,
Am still waiting for your plane.
Looks like the rare easy star is still in transport
Ahamed its Pune to Nasik Via Agra ;D
Sumit: Refer my post and your reply of June 15th in this same thread, something pending since last year. All I can say is I am very disappointed, and in my book your credibility is zero. I regret ever having dealt with you, especially giving you the free model when so many others wanted it.
Kiran,
when and how much did you pay for this Easy star ? it's about 1.5 months ..
Hi, yes indeed it's 1.5 months the amount has been paid and yet to receive the delivery of the model. I paid rs5,500 for the model .
Its high time sumit - step up
and stop giving lame excuses
Since morning am trying to call you sumit but actually I observed that my no is been forwarded to other no with no response .
As I am not in the country now and because of the call forwarding I loosing my cell phone credit.
Though u told me that u had some family problems but at least a call or a msg would hv been better to know about the situation.
Newez give me a call when you see the msg.
Kiran
+234-7086505220
Very very shady
Dear Sumit,
Following our telephonic discussion, i am still expecting the model. please make sure it gets on or before 21st sep . I will be in India on 22nd sep. so wanna spend some holidays experiencing the air through the wings.....i was not bothered about the delay as i was busy in my projects & my travel plan keep on moving, so finally confirmed & will land on 22nd sep. So please do the necessary arrangement to get the model.
Regards
Kiran
Dear Sumit,
It was two days back i got call from u that you are going to ship the model from Rajgurunagar, and will inform me a;; the details, so i waited for 2days nothing happen. & now when am calling your no u refuse to pick my call & later switched it off.. I dont have words to say , i gave you enough grace period after hearing ur problems, but now as i am in india and want to enjoy some flying as i dont have more time to spent in india i am not able to enjopy it, though i hv plenty of model which are quite very expensive than what you might be flying, but the question is not of the model its of the trust we all members have on each other your mear 5500 rs cant dig any thing but will loose respect, so once again i will just exercise patience for tomorow to get me the model or else arrage to deposit the amount i deposited. Will pm u my account details.
regards
Kiran
very sad ..... Sumit ...grow up .....
Hehe nice replies.. Saw it after long time... Enjoy flying kiran..
Really? After how long? Or rather, as long as you took to deliver the model. Only now we see you roaring like a tiger, before silent as a mouse
Atleast I roare... Don't bark...
You are out of line buddy !!
(a) You took so long to send the model, no remorse ?
(b) You know the person from whom you took alms (Read ! free model). When something was coming for free you were sir and all. Now you are telling the same senior person "dont bark" ?
You effrontery young man ! Roar and Bark has different connotation if you don't know you alms taker. Please retract and apologize.
sir ! siiir !! please ! please !! your own words
Quote from: sumitnathwani on January 17, 2013, 09:42:19 AM
Can you give this to me?? I need it.. I actuall yest only contacted VC sir regarding this..
PS
Unlocked ! to give members responses !! may be i am wrong in reading the situation
As an independent observer with no interest other than promoting fairness, it seems to me the seller gave very poor customer service (no emails, late shipping without providing reason, etc).
Not every transaction will go smooth. Everyone should search for other posts regarding potential sellers and buyers.
I am indeed saddened. A smart alecky retort may make Nathwani feel one-up, but life is not a game of one-upmanship.
Nathwani has offended, deeply, people who have been decent to him by taking them for a ride.
Life unfortunately is a great equalizer, and gives It's own payback, often in indirect and extremely hurtful ways. I don't have to do anything, what is being done is being done.
Quote from: sanjayrai55 on September 29, 2013, 05:09:13 PM
Life unfortunately is a great equalizer, and gives It's own payback, often in indirect and extremely hurtful ways.
Well said!!!!. Let it slide Sanjay Sir. Not worth even feeling sorry for or feeling sad or commenting any further for an act of such Impudence.
Sandy sir :hatsoff: :hatsoff:
Quote from: sundaram on September 29, 2013, 05:39:32 PM
...Not worth even feeling sorry for or feeling sad or commenting any further for an act of such Impudence.
Though I may echo your feeling Sandy
this ever tolerant attitude, lead us to be invaded by Moguls and enslaved by Brits.
I completely agree with you Gusty.
But in way Gusty if don't want to get your cloths dirty, it is always better not to throw stones into a puddle of Muck.
Sumit your impudence and boorish behaviour has left me speechless. How dare you? Is your shameless ingratitude inborn or have you cultivated it through regular practice?
Rai Sahib, I feel so sorry for you and yet again I marvel at magnanimosity.
VC sir.... don't feel sorry for me, for I am vibrant and jubilant. Pity instead our sad comic tragedian
Everybody! Just listen 1ce carefully... i will not comment once more as i am busy with some major responsibility of mine towards my family... Nobody knows it and its better i dont hide behind it so lets move to other end...
1. Yesterday Kiran received Parcel in nice condition. Ask him if that parcel can be shipped by courier. What will happen if i ship it by courier. Will he ship it as it is by courier? I dont have any issues with Kiran Making any comment..
2. I asked kiran to recceive it from stand but he said his Kid is small and his wife cannot go to receive it, so he requested to manage one of person who can recv it in nasik and deliver. The shipment got Delayed... Now somehow i got 1 person who said ok to this and asked me to ship it on saturday as he is college guy who cannot go on weekdays for all this. I Sent it in a week and it reached nasik. Now after he received the parcel he took it at his place and kept safely. Another week Kiran said he can send his frnd to receive it from that person's place. I said ok and called that frnd, he said i will do it on saturday again... AS HE IS NOT MY SLAVE I agreed to this. in next week he said due to some reason he left for his hometown Rajguru Nagar. I CANNOT FORCE HIM NOT TO GO HOME RITE YOU SENIOR SIR"SSS.... Now i had to wait for him to come back or give me a call... In all this ganpati festival as there... So again he postpone the plan... I did not had any other option but to wait for him. Now when Kiran came to india he gave me call on tuesday and somehow i went to rajguru nagar and shipped it again to nasik so that it will be reached at destination...
3. In all this where am i lacking?
4. All of you commented on me... DId anybody asked why is this happened?
5. You all call yourself a senior, you dont have this much courtesy to atleast understad the issue before commenting...
6. Mr. Rai knows where I am stuck.. What is my problem.. What is the phase i am going from... But he still commented... That is why i said BARK...
7. @ rcpilotacro - I know what is Difference between bark and Roare... Come and Stand in my shoes and i will see if you will be able to atleast speak properly.
You all seniors... Hats off to all of you. And if you still dare to comment then please call me on mobile... I will take care of it...
Regards,
Sumit Nathwani
+91 8087644085
+91 9665823493
Hello dear members ,
It was unfortunate incident , but newez received the model at last . My only suggestion to sumit to have clear communication in future deals cos not everybody have patience like me...
Regards
Kiran
Sent from Kiran's iPhone using Tapatalk
Tsk tsk. Not a word about the lack of communication
Err Sir, stop barking up the wrong tree or else people will think that your bark is worse than your bite. You must be barking mad to think that your bite will affect the bark of an old oak.
I suggest that you let this slide and concentrate on a new model, I am attaching a picture. For your reference it is a 'barque'.
In this case VC sir, someone is whining, not barking :D :D
oakie doke !! Look at ol brassi and his chutzpah!! all barkie 'n' Roare !!
I am sure the money for the undercarriage and the Engine was paid promptly to Anand and you weren't reminded by anybody. You had Sanjay at 'Sorry', instead of all of this Mumbo Jumbo !! One line request/post/PM would have taken care of the matter. after all, it is money matters cheeky chappy ;D
PS
Oakie Doke was a character who lived in an oak tree. He wore an acorn on his head :giggle: and an Oak leaf, which covered his upper body
Dear Sumit
Your ego is clouding your better Judgement. Instead of being grateful to the person you have taken help from you are spewing out such an rhetoric. Not even an iota of remorse in your contention for your earlier Impudent statement and callous attitude. Actually I feel very sorry for you for choosing to project and defend this aspect of your personality in Public.
If you are feeling sorry then no issues you can still apologize... I will check it next time for sure... Bye guyz... Have a nice weekend...
Definitely a Big pile of Muck. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: I was surely wasting my time on you.
I sincerely apologize to you for having tried to get some sense into you :bow: :bow: :bow: even though fully knowing what you are. ( one full year is a very long time to gauge core fibre of a person)
Either he is under the influence of alcohol or narcotics or he is totally insane. No normal person can be so shameless. Suggest we write this off. Had this been any other place in the world, he, his account and his existence would have been permanently written off.
Shame.
Sumit Nathwani, Esq., whatever you say after this won't make a damn difference to me.
too all of members please sumit is nice guy please dont take it him wrong..i am not taking side but situation matters some time..i deal with him also i have never face the situation..actually the mob.no was lost from me that i was trying to help kiran regarding this matter...
Cheerssss to all and please take it easy..and next time communicate before commite..
Regards
Sachin sir... This guyz wont understand... They just know how to put nose in others work... This guyz dont have work so they do this and i care damn... My number is 8087644085. you can call me anytime. BTW How are my sheras??? are they flying properly?
VC Sir,, Not to me as well!! CHeers for narcotics Peg... Join or else get...
My One vote for this thread to be Sticky/ in the beware list.
Please all of you senior members close this discussion.Senior members please try to act like gentlemen dont loose temper.mistakes can happen so understand and try to cooperate..instead of making any unacceptable comments..Keep it cool don't make it HOT PURSUIT ...
wingman4ever
issue is just not about the easy star at all. Will you call the person who has been kind enough to gift you an aeroplane, a canine ? him saying dont bark amounted to that. no? will you do it? can you accept him doing it ? please advice him to change the post and render an apology, not for sanjay. this favour i am pleading him to do for himself
There's a saying about 'bite the hand that feeds you' :D :D
Now, which sort of creature does that?
Hathi chale bazar toh .....
incorrigible behavior.
Well, Idi where art thou ?
aa gaye aukat pe... not interested to speak anymore with "SENIORS" --- this typo seniors!!!
sumit you got lots of ****'s to say all this on an online forum, within the comfort of your own home.. how about you come down to a flying field and talk like this... lets see what the seniors do then...
1st u stay out of this as it is not at all ur concerned. i dont want to get in all this anymore. Let ppl do back bitching... I dont want to explain to 1 who dont want to understand. This are guys who just want topic to do timepass as they have so much with thm... Another thing Who said i am at home? People who taught me knows me well.. so dont worry... Still if you want thn i can make u count my .....'s
"With malice towards one and all"......only there is no distinction here
sumit, the forum is the members turf.. you enter this turf, you deal with everyone. not just a select few of your liking. i just counted... what is cos90? :P
Go and learn in class 10 baby... this is not educational blog... :giggle:
of course it's not a blog... it's a forum... :P its written at the top....
oh!! So you read that... Congrats... u know how to read now huh!!
yaaawnn... go fly a kite...
oh wait...
Sumit
i would hate to see you go, having said that, just step back and look at it from an onlookers perspective, at these:-
(a) No Communication to kiran, he had to wait for so long
(b) Didn't hand over the money for the engine and the undercarriage on the time promised by you, you didn't ask for more time either.
(c) Likewise with Kiran, you didn't ask for more time.
(d) you called a person gifted you a model, Dog.
dont you think. (a) huge communication gap from your side (b) you behaviour was not at it's best w.r.t sanjay
All you have to do is accept you erred and move on, people will forgive you, in the bargain you will do yourself a favour, you will not feel like a heel in the future, may be you will learn the lesson of 'communication is a must in any relationship' albeit the hard way.
Upto you buddy, if i were you ? i will bite the bullet
rcpilotacro Sir.. In morning 1 wise guy advised me to stop this and say sorry rather than making this thing more worse.. I thought of it for an hour and came back to my pc started it and saw that people are still commenting in a wrong way. That is why i did not do that... Another thing Are you all aware about the coordination between me in Kiran? No you are not, still everybody commented very badly on this. DO you all know where I was when my mobile was switched off when Kiran called me? No you dont know. Do you all know why it took so long to deliver the model? No you dont.
Anybody tried to ask me? No.
Anybody asked me why i behaved like this? No
Did you thought of this before commenting sir? no.
Do you still want me to be calm and say sorry?
Yes i will do that, and i can do that. I know you are are elder than me and it is my duty to do this, but does it mean you will not even care to listen to me?
Sir, please think upon this once. I was not in mood to hurt but i want all of you to understand. That is it!
now the situation is pointless , the guy got his easy star , sanjay has given his stuff, everybody knows everything of everybody now ,
may be sometime we should give some time to the situation
May i ask you why you sir replied in the harsh way to whom you had a nice deal for free ?
Greetings to all members,
I am nobody to comment here nor have the right amount of maturity to do so but being a member to this forum since more than a year and receiving continuous ample amount of knowledge and assistance from the Senior Members I see this as a disrespect from Sumit's side. I understand bro (Sumit) that situations might be tough for all of us at times but that would not imply our inconsiderate behavior at any cost.
These senior members which you are referring to, are the Pillars to this forum.
God Forbid even if I get name calling, teasing, indecency of any kind from here due to any reason, then too the resultant of my thoughts and feelings for this family will be only gratitude and nothing else as they have done something which is immeasurable and as deep as an abyss for me and all of us here.
I am sure many, many people might be having rhyming thoughts and feelings for RCI family.
Do not mean to offend anyone by my words and nothing implicates double entendre in any sense.
Even after looking at all these comments i tried to ignore this and walk away...
"Hehe nice replies.. Saw it after long time... Enjoy flying kiran.. "
Still i got reply
"Really? After how long? Or rather, as long as you took to deliver the model. Only now we see you roaring like a tiger, before silent as a mouse"
Was this required? If he did rite thing thn yes i did rite thing as well!
Sumit now will you please stop this kind of nonsense talking...Behave because some of the members are very senior then you as well..do apologize and be a Gentleman..this not the way to talking everybody...Keep your reputation as before...as no one is enemy of yours..keep it simple..as am telling you the people should not remember you as bad person rather you do apologize and let them feel that you also good and mature person..Think before saying..
I think people might be referring to your excessive delays in delivering the promised item as well as lack of response to the multiple inquiries that Kiran made. I don't think anyone simply wants to be against you without reason.
Maybe an explanation/apology (if applicable) to for these two points followed by your statement "Enjoy flying Kiran" would have given a respectable and happy ending here.
As for the argument that this incident is nobody else's business except the buyer and seller, i think that is not true since you have used a public forum for your sale, so a public response to your actions, achievements or failures is also inevitable. So ideally it would only make sense to face and address them.
Hoping to see an amicable ending to this thread rather than another thread with an inconclusive closure, unnecessarily vilifying one person and giving arise to an argument which has drifted way beyond the original issue. It helps nobody actually. :(
@ SUMIT--Buddy, forget rest of all things, may be you were going in some harsh situation. But you should have explained it, if possible.
I really felt some bad here was, that you should have not said the those thing about Sanjay sir, he was the one who gifted you the model.
Sometime things happen in different way, but one should not loose temper like that.
See that still they want that you should, make some positive note and move on along all of us......
I believe that your apology will grave all bitterness...
vilifying one person....REALLY!!!!
I hope all you guys are not joking.
One guy may be by mistake called one of the very very senior member of this forum who is just not an another aermodeller but a very well established and accomplished entity in his own sphere of life whom we all gusty, myself, at our age and service including VC one of the old man of the forum address him as "sir" with a mark of repect for what he is, but this person chooses to imply him a dog that too after taking his geniune warm hearted good will gesture of a free gifts from him at his time of need.
Now after one full year of callous attitude just by sending across one delayed model which he sold if he thinks he has set all in order and he chooses to stand by and defend his error of commission of calling someone dog (at this juncture its very difficult to call it an error of omission) by further adding uncalled for insult upon insult with his incorrigible unacceptable behaviour with all the others who tried to put some sense into the situation and made a Royal Jack Ass of himself for entire forum of India to see.
Now who cares who is asking appology to whom, what is there for everyone to read is going to be there for eternity. Yes the parties involved may even forgive this person after his appology ( appology which i doubt) then what....
If this person continues to think he can change any of this with his smarty endless rhetoric so be it. He can continue to make a royal fool of himself.
Many such earlier specimens have just vanished after making utter fool of themself with their sound of whelps. Yes I repeat whelps. Ofcourse that person was a fool to think of it as his roar which he will realise only after few days was actually sound of her whelps.
Gusty I agree with you. unless you throw stones after stone into the puddle of muck till such time it becomes a level road that puddle will remain and grow larger causing discomfort to all. So members happy throwing stones into this puddle till it vanishes leaving only a smooth road or transforms itself into a smooth road.
@Sundaram: I guess my choice of words for wrong :headscratch: Apologies for the same! I intended to say everybody bashes up the one guy who somehow always chooses to be willfully ignorant of why everybody is pissed at him/her.
And someone got called a dog?! Whoa! I think i missed that post. It is beyond my understanding how rhetorics, defiance and name calling makes anyone feel right and justified. :(
My prolonging this topic into further debate definitely won't help either. I hope Sumit realizes that he could have handled this very differently and its never to late to do damage control.
@Ajay my earlier post was not at all intended for you in particular in any way but was in general for the audience. if it implied in any way for you my sincere apologies. Like you rightly said none of this going to change anything for anyone but Sumit. I hope sumit realizes that and what and how he could have handled it differently.
My name calling of the earlier specimens and associating sumit too was only to make sumit realize what the person insulted with name calling feels. Nothing personal. Yes if I choose not to take back my words what now sumit feels about it.
What is mystifying is why he had to insult half a dozen more people who were only trying to give some sane advice
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Enjoy Back Bitching... Love to see you all pulling your own hairs... Good night baby.. Am enjoying... Thnk you alll.. neways i was not smiling since so many days... Now after looking at this guys condi am laughing like anything...!!! Love you... My Mistake that i thot of explaining... Carry on baby... :rofl:
Your Honour !! i rest my case :bow: i sincerely apologize to you Sumit, for believing that it is possible, i was so, so wrong :banghead:
@Sundaram: of course not! Never perceived anything offensive in what you wrote. :)
I must admit that Kiran has a fantastic amount of patience!
I have a few suggestions to make which i guess should be aptly posted on the "Improvements to RCIndia" thread.
what if mr anwar or any other play as a mediator like paypal in doubtful deals (if any one is new or have not done any deal across the forum or any side party require any assurance) :headscratch:
I am amazed at all the seniors wasting their time and effort on this thread. Why can't you recognise a lost cause and let it pass? I'm sure you've all got better things in life to do. So does Mr. Anwar, no wonder that he has not intervened and taken any action. Officers and a host of other gentry being taken for granted by a cad and a boor - what a joke!
Your pontification and outbursts may have some effect on normal human beings. Not in this case. You can go blue in the face with your righteous indignation and the vicarious wagging of your index finger - he is just showing you his middle finger with temerity and extreme callous audacity.
Take a walk and get a life Guys. There are other threads that deserve your worthy attention.
Likewise VC :giggle:
Dear Sumit,
I am half Punite myself. I have to be there in Pune every year. Now I am really.....curious to see you in person. I will surely trace your whereabouts this year in Pune. Now please don't go hiding when I come looking for you.
I sincerely hope you continue smilling against all odds in your life. odds because of which you think you are entitled to your actions. ???
Sir, if this person was 'normal' and if I were a resident of Pune, I would have sought out his residential address and dealt with him accordingly - mano e mano. Neither of the pre conditions being valid, I let it pass.
We have dealt with many rotten eggs on this forum in the past - false identities, blank envelopes, gender benders et al - this one is the nadir of all degradation.
Hats off to you Mr. Nathwani. We old timers have so much to learn from you, after all we represent an era that has passed. If you are a thumbnail of the generation to follow, God help us all. I sincerely want to believe that you are an aberration and that there is still hope.
I have no intention of thrashing anybody up if thats what you mean VC :giggle:. I have much better things to do in Pune than that.
;D - NIKE!
Beware - he wears a tiger claw around his neck.
Quote from: sumitnathwani on September 30, 2013, 09:47:36 PM
... Now after looking at this guys condi am laughing like anything...!!!
after looking at your condition, i am laughing! :rofl:
but seriously... please keep your psychotic rants of the forum turf...
you've sold your plane.. now go to sleep. it's past your bedtime.
Quote from: VC on September 30, 2013, 10:29:31 PM
If you are a thumbnail of the generation to follow, ...
VC
if he is (I hope he aint), i guess it is time for me to pass, fade away
sumit
is this your pretty face ? or some mistaken ident by me? :giggle:
Gusty sir! where did you get those???!!!! awesome!
Sumit
it's time to up the ante ! Time to pay a courtesy call to Dynaesh Complex, Fergusson College Road intersection, and further :)
apologize, is your best course of action.
In the same breath let me ask you a question. Have you heard of Prisoner's Dilemma ? why did WWI take place , John Nash ? Seen the movie "A Beautiful Mind" starring Russel Crowe. Why is there a nuclear arms race ? You are thinking why do you care.
Let me tell you son, it is called Game Theory. Think about this "Hurt yourself to save yourself" "Loose to win" , sounds paradoxical? learn to play this game, you will be a winner (applicable to all, who wish to take up Game Theory in their life)
I didnt want to interfere in this topic, but anyway. I sent quite some PM's to sumit asking him to apologize and he still hasnt.
..please do apoplogize mainly to sanjay sir and all others that you have hurt.
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thanks neil for understanding..
Neil, I don't think your words will have any effect on him