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Moki 2.10 NIB

Started by flyingboxcar, April 20, 2012, 11:00:19 PM

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flyingboxcar

Big bore Glow engine, legendry quality and unbeatable price
the engine is NIB and comes with a bison pitts muffler. Please note the the Moki is shipped from factory without the muffler, you will have to provide the 4 mm allen bolts of suitable length which should not be a problem procuring locally.

i am selling this to fund a gas engine

Price of engine is 16000/- plus courier, which is a steal considering the cost of new engine.

if interested contact me at 09840904709

Few pictures are here, for more pictures you can see this thread (scroll to Moki) http://www.rcindia.org/fuel-and-engines/engines-engines-and-more-engines-!!!/125/




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flyingboxcar

If you are really into scale you should be here. www.rcscalebuilder.com

flying truck

Do you think you should sell a moki to fund a gasser? Unless you have another one in your collection already.

flyingboxcar

Flyingtruck yes I know what you are saying, but I need to if I need to go gas, hobby budget is bit tight.
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flying truck

Well then at the least you should get an exotic gas engine maybe mvvs or something :)

flyingboxcar

I don't think I could get an equivalent capacity MVVS for the slae price of this engine. And going by the response till now I don't think the engine would sell. Atleast not here.
I think a few months earlier some one had put up a used 2.10 for sale for 15K, from what it looks like that one did not sell either.
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flying truck

Ya the Chinese gas engines have pushed large glow engines outta the market. You can try ebay.com for a international sale but the thing is this engine needs a little more time to become a desirable collectible.

flyingboxcar

No, I do not want to go to ebay as international sale has lot of hassles, if the engine does not sell it would go on the model. I am sure instead of 30 cc petrol a 35 cc glow would be much better power but at the cost of some dead nose weight.
As for the Moki being a collectible as long as it remains in production it won't go into collectible category.
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rcpilotacro

Power to wt ratio of a glow engine is much much better, if rest of the payload is managed well, may be nose wt can go/reduce too. with a dash of nitro, moki it is, captain, i am tempted to go for it, if no one goes for it for a while,
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A Great pilot will practice until he can't get it wrong.

flyingboxcar

with a short nose A/c designed for petrol power and especially with scale you are forced to add nose weight. How much could your batty, Rx and few servos weigh?
On a 26 cc size model where I am using a Webra 120 with pitts I have had to add 450g of weight, that is after I decided to omit two servos in the tail for rudder and put a single one in the fuse, and using a 2400 MaH NiCd bty pack which weighs as much as a brick.     
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flying truck

The moki 2.10 weighs the same if not more than most 30 cc petrol engines inclusive of ignition equipment doesn't it? It does have more horsepower. The only reason i thought people go with a petrol engine is savings in fuel cost over time.

flyingboxcar

Where do you mount all the ignition component and the ignition battery? In the nose of course, as near to the engine and far away from your Rx and Servos. So the weight, of all these would need to be replaced with dead weight. Most A/c in this size designed these days consider that a gas engine would be used, so if u replace that with glow u end up with dead weight.
From around 40 cc size the Gas engines hold their own sway when it comes to glow vs gas. But in smaller capacities, the glow does have the edge especially when you consider the entire system weight for gas, and why should you not, can one run the gas engine without all those components? If not then why leave them when comparing power to weight for glow and gas.
Apart from running cost, mess to clean up, and in larger capacities the power is major consideration for switch to petrol     
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flying truck

Hmmm A) i'm not arguing gas vs glow here as you know i hardly have any experience on either mounted on a model which is why i'll needing you help for that .  B) The Moki weighs around 1250 grams  and a gas engine lets say the rcg 30 weighs about 1000grams inclusive of the ignition so adding another 100 to 200 grams depending on you decide to use as your dedicated ignition pack battery pack and the weight of the particular engine you choose isn't the weight almost the same captain?

But then Power is to weight is a whole other area in the sense that lets assume your only adding dead weight to bring the weight of the (glow engine) equal to that of the petrol engine (to get the ideal nose weight to balance your model)and as long as the petrol engine is producing lower power the power is to weight of your glow engine still remains higher. The power is to weight advantage of the glow engine will diminish only if the petrol engine with the ideal nose weight for your plane produces the same power as the glow engine (with enough dead weight to balance your model).

rcpilotacro

i did some quick check

RCG swings 18x10 at 7800 RPM

Moki Swings 20x10 at 7800 RPM

Gusty's Hangar and Introduction.

A Good pilot will practice until he gets it right,
A Great pilot will practice until he can't get it wrong.