hi'
saikat if it would have been possible for me i would have stared hobby supplies business
    now iam only a hobby flier and builder
iam only requesting the person who is already doing business

more over if any one wants to increase the community of flying its in the hands of the hobby suppliers who is already in business

Bessie, just because no one is posting here doesn't necessarily mean that no one is interested or that no importer is acting upon this deal/offer. Just give it some time and let's wait and watch if any developments take place.

Bessie - all hobby supply businesses were started by individuals.

I doubt whether companies like Reliance or Tata are involved.

Quote from: saikat on December 03, 2011, 08:01:20 AM
since you seem so passionate why do you not take the initiative and start supplying balsa yourself ??
... instead of expecting others to act.

why are you persuading him to start a hobby shop? am i missing something here

Just a thought. If someone were to import 3000 pcs, as stipulated by Maxim Indowood, what would be a good grade mix for the consignment? Which dimensions would sell the fastest?

IMHO, 3mm and 1.5mm sheets would be the best sellers. What do the rest of us feel?

posted just to keep talking about this topic

hi bessie, i have been dealing with this person " DENI SATRIA" for the  past 1month now and will tell the story about how every  thing was working

first i asked him if he  would shipme 180 sheets of balsa of varying thicknesses, he agreed and gave me a bank account no of some "ADRIN ADAM", and told me to  do a wester union /money gram transfer.
WESTERN UNION and MONEY GRAM did not accept the transfer as it was a third party.

he then gave a invoice in name of " PT. HEMAL ARGUSIA" and the same account name for the transfer. by bank.

IDBI bank did not accept the payment as now there were three names involved.
1> ADRIN ADAM----> the account holder
2> PT. HEMAL ARGUSIA-----> the firm who issued the  invoice
3> DENI SATRIA-----> the person negotiating or  the one who had emaild.

i informed him about this  and then gave me a invoice  in the name of MAXIM INDOWOOD and a bank account in the name of maxim indowood.

IDBI  then accepted the payment and cleared it with a feee of   1300( on 6/12)

since then i posted him 15 emails and have received no reply. finally i gotone reply on 14/12 that  the payment  was cleared and i would receive the package on 16/12 ( today),and will  send a copy  of the airway  bill.  but  i have not received either.

i have again sent him 3 emails  and the finally called the ph no. on the invoice that informed me that there is no DENI SATRIA in MAXIM INDOWOOD and that the email stated  above does not belong to them.

since it is  a yahoo email and i too have a ID i can see the person  come online but doesnot  reply  to the emails.

senior forum members help in handling such issues will be very much helpful. ANWAR SIR can you  track the IP address.

Assuming that this deal is dead, how much money have you lost?

luckly only $85.54== 4400 + 1300(bank) =5700

still hoping that  he replies
will just wait for another  2-3  days  for the reply  and then see what can be done to get the money back
have the bank account info so  should be easier...!!
any  suggestion on how i should deal..

Since no option left with you, wait.. hope the consignment had been delayed

that is the only thing  am hoping right now...

but not replying emails even though online is what is bothering me.... 

I have something more to add here. However, I will wait for a few more days before I declare anything in public.

various links and threads  related to the person:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1543029

http://www.eceek.com/company_208506_pt-maxim-indowood.htm

http://www.toy123.net/suppliers/3107/Balsa-Sheet.htm

hi
  this is the huge intrest taken by u we hope there may be some delay with the consignment

we will wait for some more days

another three days is what i am going wait for, then launch a complaint. i have also formed his bank about this ( BANK CENTRAL AISIA)

This has taken a very sad & serious turn. Hope you get either the material or your money back. Mr. Deny, why so silent?

some  online research shows...!

DENI SATRIA is linked  to mixim indowood with his sale on alibaba.com other IE sites.
http://www.toy123.net/suppliers/3107/

ARDIN ADAM is also a balsa dealer but owns a firm PT balsa studio.
http://balsastudio.en.ec21.com/Balsasheet--3746950_3746951.html

PT HEMAL AGRINUSA is also a balsa firm run by Mr. Junaidi Hendro
http://www.tradeindia.com/Seller-4328933-PT-HEMAL-AGRINUSA/

but unfortunately they are not linked  to  each other.

trying to  call the MAXIM INDOWOOD office  for past 2days has have been  getting no answer.
; is also not online since 15/12.

members any suggestion on how to deal....!!

Try finding some Indonesian rc forum like http://www.jac.or.id/
There might be some people who knows about the shop or help you in this matter.

I have been smelling fish all the way, and though others on the forum would have smelled the same too. What would you do if some Arab offered you to sell Arctic Ice at a rate lower than Eskimos ?

Balsa is ***NOT** grown in **ANY*** South Asian country. I wish I had directly confronted Mr Bessie  who seem to have ran away from the forum with a paltry booty of USD 85.

just have a look.. around the net..,southeast Asian countries do  grow balsa.. balsa there is actually  used for mounting engines onto ships/boats(to absorb vibrations)  as it   is also grown in  kerala for the same reason.

check  the above links.

Ps: MR.DENI SATRIA, was online on yahoo, 30mins  back sent him 3 emails no reply.

Vish i posted in the rcgroups in his post about about this so tat people aware about him.

I held back for a while to see if this mess got sorted out on its own and whether Vish received the consignment or got his money back. Seems like neither has taken place.

My partner and I decided to procure Balsa from this organisation. Emails were exchanged with Mr. Deni Satria and quotes (rather attractive and lucrative) were received. Along with that came 3 small samples of 1.5mm, 3mm and 6mm Balsa. Outstanding quality - far superior to what is sold in India under the tag of "Imported Balsa".

Now we were ready to make the payment and book the order. we wanted to pay via LC and Mr. Satria was insisting on a TT or Western Union. As we dithered, Vish posted what had transpired and we hit the brakes, HARD!

Same rigmarole followed. ISD calls proved that there was no such person as "Deni Satria" employed at Maxim Indowood. The email from which he was corresponding with us was not recognised by them etc. etc. Above all, the lady who spoke was not comfortable in English, that made matters even more complicated.

The above is for general information to all. At the moment, we have decided not to go ahead with this deal till matters become clearer.

RCVish / Sujju Bhai - Thanks for the warning Buddies.

Deni Satria - Thanks for the 3 samples. Please clarify matters here and help us progress.

Regards.

since there was no reply for a week ....  i went ahead and launched a police complaint, had a contact with their bank and was assured that they have taken strict  action against the suspect. they want a firm authenticated mail from my  bank so that they can start a refund process.

also contacted alibaba.com, hey confirmed that they have had similar issues with the seller previously, and would lend full help to the authorities investigating.

got a response from Indian embassy  in Indonesia that  they will look into this matter, and punish the guilty.

even if the person is fake his bank has all his information and will  be easy to track down for the  local authorities. Being an Islamic law country i do not  think he will get away with small fine.

Mr. DENI SATRIA if you are reading this YOU HAVE GOT  YOUR SELF INTO GREAT TROUBLE FOR MERE $85..

@VC sir: what was the cost of the order you  were intending to place..?? when was the last you got a response from him...!

Last email received on 16th Dec :

"Dear VC,

We're not accept L/C. We use telegraphic transfer for payment terms. If the terms is not accordance with you, we will not disappointed if you want to cancel your order. Please let us know if you have cancel your order.

Sincerely,
PT. MAXIM INDOWOOD
Deni Satria"

These are the details of the order that we had been negotiating for:

We offer a quote accordance your consignment compositions with the net price is below:
==============================================
Qty     Item Description                                   Price/Unit    Amount
==============================================

500   Balsa Sheet 915mm x 100mm x 1.5mm   US $0.20    US $100.00
1000  Balsa Sheet 915mm x 100mm x 3.0mm   US $0.35    US $350.00
750   Balsa Sheet 915mm x 100mm x 5.0mm   US $0.55    US $412.50
750   Balsa Sheet 915mm x 100mm x 6.0mm   US $0.65    US $487.50
==============================================

@ US$ = Rs.52/- the total outlay was more than Rs.70,000/-

Narrow escape, all thanks to RC Vish.

all thanks  to my 85$ which got flushed down the drain .!

it was  a damn narrow  escape,.... if it had  taken me two more days to wait and write this... you would  have been  the same place i am right now..