Review: NGH Engines GT9 (9.07 CC)

Started by rcpilotacro, January 02, 2012, 10:51:56 PM

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samlikespad


vertigo

Hello

What about the flying test of the engine?


rcpilotacro

#27
Ground run of  this engine was good, it was flown on the spitfire,aeroplane was way too nose heavy, she got airborne and i was tending to loose elevator authority, therefore landed back.
Gusty's Hangar and Introduction.

A Good pilot will practice until he gets it right,
A Great pilot will practice until he can't get it wrong.

rcpilotacro

Final Thoughts on the Review

All your woes of finding methanol , castor , nitro is over, unleaded petrol and 2t oil and you are good to go.

(a) Good torque, 10,700 high , 2700 low, spark plug exists therefore no fear of cut
(b) tuning requires patience, points to bear in mind is let the engine warm up before attempting tuning, 1/16 of a turn at one time, after turning operate throttle and now check the RPM
(c) It has a Meth engine type tuning
(d) It is slightly rich at idle
(e) engine acceleration and deceleration is shade faster than meth engine, meaning good for 3D
(f) Cowls better than 2 stroke meth

a must buy :)
Gusty's Hangar and Introduction.

A Good pilot will practice until he gets it right,
A Great pilot will practice until he can't get it wrong.

rcpilotacro

#29
for the question in the video the answer is way too nose heavy ran out of elevator authority, phoenix CG suggestion sucks
Gusty's Hangar and Introduction.

A Good pilot will practice until he gets it right,
A Great pilot will practice until he can't get it wrong.

samlikespad

 {:)} Congrats Gusty Bhai !!!  :salute: and Thanks for taking the pain to tame that little gasser and providing feedback/review  :hatsoff:

rcpilotacro

thanks Sam it is a good engine ! Thanks Karthik and Sanjeev (Happy birthday too)
Gusty's Hangar and Introduction.

A Good pilot will practice until he gets it right,
A Great pilot will practice until he can't get it wrong.

sundaram

This fellow did not seem to have used the supplied fuel pump. wonder how he managed fuel system?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzU-VI5RcSE&feature=g-all-c&context=G24e7ad8FAAAAAAAAOAA

samlikespad

#33
Gusty Bhai, If I am to buy from Himodels ( http://www.himodel.com/engines/NGH_9CC_Petrol_Engine_for_Radio_Control_Aeroplane_GT9.html ) , Do I need to order any thing other than the specified item on this link? Is everything required is bundled? (sparkplug, fuel tank (and its size), piping, switch, spinner (and its size) etc.) I am about to order this from them and this being my first IC engine, I request your kind guidance to make sure I dont miss any thing. This page ( http://www.himodel.com/shop_for_parts.php?sku=NGHGT9 ) has the accessories listed for this little wonder and kindly point to me if I need to order any thing along with the engine  :help:

Me being a  complete electric since beginning, has no clue about the IC setup for planes  :banghead: I have a SPAD scale 3D design in my mind since some time. I intend to use this for my experimental SPAD which will be a 52" wingspan.

sundaram

#34
One of the videos of the net which I liked the best was this at 2mtrs wing span and 5 kgs some gracefull flying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWNYSeM3ZSY&feature=related

@ Samil You should get a good fuel pipe petrol with inner dia of 2.5 mm only. HK has a silicon 2.5mm gas/glow pipe. very good local replacement which I found was a petrol pipe which goes by name 2T pipe in two wheelers markets, though rarely found since 2 stroke two wheelers are fast vanishing.

You would require a good gas tank of about 250cc with gas bunk, Spinner, Prop 10*6-12*6, Engine mount Size 52, Battery pack 4.8V preferably, 2T oil.

Connected equipments Starter, fuel caddy with pump.

rcpilotacro

fuel clunk be big and heavy, as the Gas pipes aren't very flexible it doesn't fall well inside the tank, make sure to build your tank properly, place the pump correctly, this one is a good clunk (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=20593), have this spark plugs in spare(http://www.himodel.com/engines/Rcexl_Glow_1_4_-32_Spark_Plug.html), rest of the accessories are not required as of now,
Gusty's Hangar and Introduction.

A Good pilot will practice until he gets it right,
A Great pilot will practice until he can't get it wrong.

samlikespad

Thanks a lot Dear Gusty Bhai and Sundaram Bhai! That was quick :D

I have placed the order with both your guidelines in-mind and its under confirmation from their end now. The items I ordered are as below. The clunk at HK is in BK.

NGHGT9      NGH 9CC Petrol Engine for Radio Control Aeroplane GT9         
100-64      Ф3xD12.9xH26mm Fuel Tank Clunks (2pcs)         
ABFCFF      Ф2 Anti-bubble Fuel Tank Clunk/Fuel Filter         
1-4-32      Rcexl Glow 1/4 -32 Spark Plug         
GSSTD5YL      D4xd2.5 Silicon Fuel Tube for Gasoline Engine 2 meters (Yellow)         
05-103A      240cc Fuel Tank - Square         
04-503      Medium 50×80 mm Adjustable Engine Mounts 

I have both 10x6 and 12x6 props, didn't know the size for the spinner  :( so leaving that for later. Once received ( fingers crossed as customs is stricter now a days), will try it on a SPAD trainer first before mounting on my experimental SPAD. Once again thank you so much for your quick helping hand  :bow:

rcpilotacro

2 inch spinner would do, get yourself  a spinner or else starting will be a pain initially, after tuning well she can hand start easily. i hope you have a starter, Sullivan Dynatron is the best
Gusty's Hangar and Introduction.

A Good pilot will practice until he gets it right,
A Great pilot will practice until he can't get it wrong.

rcpilotacro

Quote from: sundaram on March 17, 2012, 11:14:31 PM
This fellow did not seem to have used the supplied fuel pump. wonder how he managed fuel system?

Sandy
It is not the same engine, could be a prototype
(a) it doesnt have the pulse pressure line outlet from the engine
(b) It has a walbro type pump with a Glow type tuning system
(c) his fuel tank kept below is under pressure evident by (1) Closed mouth of the fuel tank (2) No bubbles in the Fuel Line (3) for a pump to suck fuel so high will be difficult (d) some kind of white pipe line is seen in one frame near the fuel tank, could be  pressure line to the tank

Elementary Dr Watson !! :giggle:  !! elementary
Gusty's Hangar and Introduction.

A Good pilot will practice until he gets it right,
A Great pilot will practice until he can't get it wrong.

samlikespad

Quote from: augustinev on March 18, 2012, 07:06:56 PM
2 inch spinner would do, get yourself  a spinner or else starting will be a pain initially, after tuning well she can hand start easily. i hope you have a starter, Sullivan Dynatron is the best

Thanks Gusty Bhai. Will add a spinner :) Though I dont have a starter, other fellow flyers have them and I could use their help to get it running.

sundaram

 @Dr watsons photo
:giggle: Gusty kya aane wale budaape mein bhi meri class lene ka iradha hai kya? :giggle:

I think this new Charm for smoking a pipe is rubbing on to you at forty plus  :giggle:

avijit17basu

1. Has the engine been flown satisfactorily on a plane yet?

2. I have read in the RCG forum that it is very important to have the spark plug cap fixed tight so as to avoid radio interference.
3.Augustine sir, Have you changed your sign in name from Augustinenv to rcpilotacro
regards
Avijit

rcpilotacro

1. Has the engine been flown satisfactorily on a plane yet? yes! very much.

2. I have read in the RCG forum that it is very important to have the spark plug cap fixed tight so as to avoid radio interference. that is true for all gas engines,

3.Have you changed your sign in name from Augustinenv to rcpilotacro. didn't like it a bit. what to do. :banghead:
Gusty's Hangar and Introduction.

A Good pilot will practice until he gets it right,
A Great pilot will practice until he can't get it wrong.

zonuna

We got this engine too from RCD, and need a little help here  :help: I hope rcpilotacro might help us as our location altitude is almost the same.
1. Engine start good.(1.5 HS needle open but need to open throttle to 1/2 )
2. After full throttle, need to open HS needle to about 2 -2.5 to achieve high RPM (Not so smooth)
3. While closing Throttle to around half (1/2) fuel seemed Too Rich  and engine becomes unstable.

Other way round
1. when closing HS needle to around .5 or less RPM becomes high and and was able to close throttle at 1/3 happly
2. But when open Throttle at 1/2 on this settings engine dies too lean

Where did we go wrong Please help. :help:

AEROVISHWA

i dont know about this engine... or any petrol engine to be specific... but in case this happens with a  nitro... we adjust the lower end needle..

adjust the top end for max RPM
close throttle slowly
if rich close lower end needle
if lean open  lower end needle....


any one with experience in GASSERs may be able to correct if this is same SOP for GAS
Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines.
-Enzo Ferrari

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spitfire

I would suggest you to go through following link and set it up accordingly.

http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/showthread.php?t=427

VC

For Gusty and Sandy - (a) Has Gusty taken to smoking a pipe? If so, since when? What tobacco? (Are we supposed to discuss this here? Statutory warning states "Cigarette Smoking is injurious to your health" now rectified to "Smoking kills". That aside, in today's polluted world - 'Breathing kills'.  :giggle:

Open to all (b) Quiz question - In which of Sherlock Holmes stories does the famous detective utter these words, verbatim, for the first time, "Elementary my dear Watson"? No prizes for this, sorry.
Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional!

AEROVISHWA

VC sir thats from "the  crooked man...!" big time fan of sherlock holmes

i still did not get the link here...may be i was not suppose to...  :giggle:
Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines.
-Enzo Ferrari

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HAPPY LANDINGS

rcpilotacro

Zonuna this engine is slightly sensitive to altitude, like vish said, both rich and lean needle as well the pump needs to be adjusted. best solution for you will be bring it over to shillong in your next trip and will tune it for you (Can meet you too ;D)

VC
identify this movie "..what have you people been smoking out there, it is just a f**in tree"
Gusty's Hangar and Introduction.

A Good pilot will practice until he gets it right,
A Great pilot will practice until he can't get it wrong.

zonuna

#49
Thanks Gusty, I have tuned 50cc successfully before, but this carb is like a glow carb, I just wanted to know that on an idle speed, is it ok to have a throttle open at around half ?