RC Equipments => Fuel and Engines => Topic started by: rcforall on October 05, 2010, 05:47:00 PM
Title: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: rcforall on October 05, 2010, 05:47:00 PM
Finally Avinash got me to Start stocking Tornado fuels in Chennai to break our all electric profile ;D :
We just received the following :
Cars : MRP Rs ( Incl of Duties and Taxes ) MODEL ENGINE FUEL 1250 2 gallons 10 % Nitro MODEL ENGINE FUEL 1800 4 gallon 16 % Nitro MODEL ENGINE FUEL 1995 4 gallons 20 % Nitro MODEL ENGINE FUEL 1995 4 gallons 25 % Nitro MODEL ENGINE FUEL 2195 4 gallons 25 % Nitro ( Competition Grade ) Air : MODEL ENGINE FUEL 1295 4 gallons 1% Nitro
All those interested get in touch .
Sai
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: mail4ajo on October 05, 2010, 07:10:29 PM
Rotor has resumed their fuel production, this time with much better mixes and lube. Very nicely priced too. We tested and was happy except for the lower Lube content.
I did a lot to promote Tornado and did sell too. But Rotors price is hard to beat.
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: flyingboxcar on October 05, 2010, 07:41:52 PM
Rotor uses Klotz, what is the lube used by Tornado? Would also help if it was know what kind of gallon is used? US Dry, US Liquid or Imperial Gallon? But no doubt this eases lot of difficulties for all of us and competiton is always good
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: anwar on October 05, 2010, 07:52:23 PM
And where does Mayura Chemicals fit into all this ? Any one has comments on their prices/blends ?
Great to see lots of glow fuel availability in the south !
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: flyingboxcar on October 05, 2010, 07:53:39 PM
Anwar yet to test my engine on the fuel mixed with mayura checmicals lube. Hopefully by nextweek
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: mail4ajo on October 05, 2010, 09:07:56 PM
Quote from: flyingboxcar on October 05, 2010, 07:41:52 PM Rotor uses Klotz, what is the lube used by Tornado? Would also help if it was know what kind of gallon is used? US Dry, US Liquid or Imperial Gallon? But no doubt this eases lot of difficulties for all of us and competiton is always good
Tornado lube is mix of castor and Synthetic. Approx 11% for car fuel. Sai has got the quantity rating wrong. Its not gallon, but litres. 10% nitro comes in 2.5L, all other 4L.
Great to see lots of glow fuel availability in the south !
As far as I know Mayura, was the fuel mixer for Rotor, not anymore. Its just a mix and fill chemical shop. The final lot of Rotor's Mayura fuel was pathetic. Lots of college boys had issues and shifted to Tornado thru me. Was worse than the fuel supplied by a certain chennai heli flyer.
I just hope that Rotors fuel quality remains. The price is just hard to beat.
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: traxxrc1 on October 05, 2010, 09:31:33 PM
is byron better than tornado?
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: mail4ajo on October 05, 2010, 11:46:22 PM
Byron has more brand image compared to Tornado. That doesnt make it better. I have used both. More or less the same. May make a difference if you are racing with really high performance engines. Cant really make out on our RTR engines.
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: anwar on October 06, 2010, 12:26:57 AM
My initial mentor in RC, Joe Marudo, had extensive experience using various fuel brands. He clearly held Tornado at higher esteem compared to Byron (in his experience of mostly heli and airplane flying and a small bit of cars).
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: flyingboxcar on October 06, 2010, 09:30:14 AM
Ajo, That still does not answer my original query? What brand of synthetic is used by Tornado?
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: anwar on October 06, 2010, 10:50:44 AM
It would be surprising if any of the major fuel brands disclosed the exact sources of their components. It seems to be only done when fuel is locally mixed.
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: bmanoj2 on October 06, 2010, 10:53:07 AM
I got tornado fuel from bangalore last month. They just mentioned the mix, no details of sources of their components.
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: bmanoj2 on October 06, 2010, 11:02:01 AM
Dear Mr. Sai, Can you ship to Kerala.
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: anwar on October 06, 2010, 11:11:38 AM
I will PM Sai the name of a transport company who had previously agreed to ship at very good rates to Kerala ;)
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: mail4ajo on October 06, 2010, 11:12:40 AM
Tornado doesnt specify what brand of lube they use nor does any others. Its approx 11% for cars.
Quote from: anwar on October 06, 2010, 10:50:44 AM It would be surprising if any of the major fuel brands disclosed the exact sources of their components. It seems to be only done when fuel is locally mixed.
Actually Bryon and Tornado discloses the Lube content on all their fuels. Chris Chianelli, the late RC guru once blasted the manufacturers for keeping the lube content a secret.
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: anwar on October 06, 2010, 11:18:39 AM
Quote from: mail4ajo on October 06, 2010, 11:12:40 AM Actually Bryon and Tornado discloses the Lube content on all their fuels. Chris Chianelli, the late RC guru once blasted the manufacturers for keeping the lube content a secret.
Content/percentage yes, brand NO. The Captain was asking for the brand.
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: bmanoj2 on October 06, 2010, 11:21:15 AM
Got the PM. Great News..... Thanks Anwar Gi.. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: sushil_anand on October 06, 2010, 04:54:20 PM
Sai
I think the MRP is PER GALLON - something not clear in your price list. And also what "gallon" as Captain has pointed out.
And 1% Nitro for AIR fuel? I'm sure there is a mistake here too!
Please clarify.
Please let us know the respective oil content also.
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: bmanoj2 on October 14, 2010, 07:04:49 PM
I am not sure about the price / gallon but 1% nitro for Air is true. I used it 2 months back when I was in India. I got it from Bangalore. Tornado do have 1 % nitro for air. :)
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: medicineman1987 on October 15, 2010, 02:11:33 AM
Sai sir, could you clarify the pricing.. Is it for 2/4 gallons or per gallon?
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: mail4ajo on October 15, 2010, 11:29:32 AM
Guys why do you do your simple math? Will 2 gallons (approx 8 litres) cost only that much. The price is for 4 litres, or 1 gallon. Tornado ships in litres only.
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: rcforall on October 29, 2010, 04:32:05 PM
Hi All , Sorry for the delay in replying and the mistakes as I really do not use fuel myself
revised details as below Cars : MRP Rs ( Incl of Duties and Taxes ) MODEL ENGINE FUEL 1250 2.5 ltrs ( 0.66 US gallons ) 10 % Nitro ( Rs500/Ltr) MODEL ENGINE FUEL 1800 4 ltrs (1.06 US gallons ) 16 % Nitro ( Rs450/Ltr) MODEL ENGINE FUEL 1995 4 ltrs ( 1.06 US gallons ) 20 % Nitro ( Rs499/Ltr) MODEL ENGINE FUEL 1995 4 ltrs ( 1.06 US gallons ) 25 % Nitro ( Rs499/Ltr) MODEL ENGINE FUEL 2195 4 ltrs ( 1.06 US gallons ) 25 % Nitro ( Competition Grade ) Air : MODEL ENGINE FUEL 1295 4 ltrs ( 1.06 US gallons ) 1% Nitro ( Rs324/Ltr)
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: rcforall on October 29, 2010, 05:52:12 PM
Have some time in hand today so thought I will make a ready reckoner as Anwar suggests as well ;D :
Tornado Car 10 Specifications 10% NM Super power
< 1% Additives Special additives optimize fuel's combustion properties
12% Oil Special dedicated oil blend for maximum protection resulting in prolonged engine life. Special blend based on synthetic oils and ricinus
77% Methanol
Tornado Car 16
Specifications 16% NM Super Plus power
<1% Additives
12% Oil Special dedicated oil blend for maximum protection resulting in prolonged engine life Special blend based on synthetic oils and ricinus
71% Methanol
Tornado 20 Specifications 20% NM Supreme power
<1% Additives
10,8% Oil Special dedicated oil blend for off-road characteristics based on ricinus and synthetic oils
68,2% Methanol
Tornado Car 25 Specifications 25% NM Surpreme power
<1% Additives
10,5% Oil Special dedicated oil blend containing ricinus and synthetic oils for maximum protection resulting in prolonged engine life. Special blend based on synthetic oils and ricinus
63,5% Methanol
Tornado Car 25 competition Specifications 25% NM Surpreme power
<1,5% Additives
8,6% Oil Special dedicated oil blend for lean setting combined with maximum protection based on ricinus and synthetic oils
64,9% Methanol
Tornado Flight 1 Specifications 1% NM Basic power
<1% Additives Special additives optimize fuel's combustion properties
16,5% Oil Special dedicated oil blend for maximum protection resulting in prolonged engine life Special blend based on ricinus and synthetic oils
81,5% Methanol
Hope it is useful.
Rgds Sai
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: falcon89 on November 06, 2010, 03:59:49 PM
hi,
i just got a losi ten-t and i haven't been able to run it yet since i haven't been able to source good fuel.Where can i get the tornado fuel in chennai, :help:.
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: anwar on November 06, 2010, 04:25:47 PM
Welcome to RC India :)
You are posting in the thread that lists the source ! :headscratch: Have you tried contacting Sai/RCForAll ?
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: Siddharth on November 11, 2010, 08:46:05 AM
We have been using Tornado fuel on all our cars till date.We have had absolutely no issues yet. The best part if that the fuel supply is continous.
At one point in time there was 20% offroad and 30% offroad avail which had a higher oil content (i think 14%), but now they are sticking to regular car fuel.
At the current pricing i think tornado makes most sense. We also tried Byrons for a while, but for some reason the TRX 3.3 engines didnt like it too much plus there was no assurance of supply.
I saw a lot of people using the new rotor fuel, none had issues with it. But unless it costs half as much as tornado i personally wouldnt venture into it.
@ajo - what is the cost of the rotor fuel?
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: mail4ajo on November 11, 2010, 10:31:19 AM
Its about Rs 450 a litre for 15%, But with larger quantities, I think you can get a better rate and also customize your fuel.
The price will definitely not be half the rate of imported fuel, because the lube used is Klotz which is far superior to any local castor oil. Search to see the price of Klotz.
Also the fuel is computer controlled mixed in a proper setting unlike previously made local fuel.
The packaging is also great. You must have seen the cans. The cans are great quality ones.
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: Siddharth on November 11, 2010, 02:55:50 PM
The cans are really nice. Easy to carry and very durable unlike the tornado metal ones, which tend to go out of shape. But again for local fuel even though it computer controlled and using Klotz Rs 450 per liter is too expensive. Once it reaches the Rs 300/- level then we can consider as an alternate for Tornado.
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: mail4ajo on November 11, 2010, 08:43:04 PM
Quote from: Siddharth on November 11, 2010, 02:55:50 PM But again for local fuel even though it computer controlled and using Klotz Rs 450 per liter is too expensive. Once it reaches the Rs 300/- level then we can consider as an alternate for Tornado.
Like I said, larger quantities can reduce price to much lower levels. I cannot discuss the rates I receive. And also all the components are imported, Methanol from Shell, Chinese Nitro, anti frothing and anti rust agents.
BLR Jo and team was given a 3 litre sample to test. Will find out if Rotor got any feedback from them.
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: Tassem on March 30, 2011, 04:37:43 PM
Hey Guys!
I'm reviving this thread cause I just got off the phone with Mr.Ethiraj who manufactures Power Glo fuel. He quoted Rs.300/litre for 20% Nitro and 15%Lube mix.
Is this a good alternative for Tornado 20%? I know cost wise it makes sense. But what about the quality?
Tassem.
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: mail4ajo on March 30, 2011, 06:25:20 PM
I would say dont. Off late we are having some issues with local fuel. With a high cost/performance engine like Novarossi and Axe Rossi at stake, I am planning to shift back to Tornado.
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: Tassem on March 30, 2011, 06:45:19 PM
Hmmm.. I don't want to risk ruining my engine. Plus the biggest difficulty is that he can't provide smaller quantities so that I can test it out. It's a gallon minimum.
What sort of issues were you facing with them?
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: mail4ajo on March 30, 2011, 08:46:42 PM
Rotor's first few batches of fuel was made by this guy. We brought it because it was cheap. It sucked, overheating, gumming, strange smell etc. Then rotor started their own manufacturing with imported components which was by far the best locally made fuel I have used. Clean burning, nicely packed, cost effective. Murali beat Tornado users from across the country with just 15% nitro in the RCINC truggy race. Issue is that it has no castor, only synthetic which is not friendly to high performance engines.
Every commercially made fuel in the world, Tornado, Byron, RB, Odonell, TOP fuel has atleast some castor. Even the high performance race grade of 33% has castor. So I am doubtful of using it on my Novarossi.
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: Tassem on March 30, 2011, 09:32:18 PM
That's enough for me to stay away from it for now. But I wouldn't write them off completely lest they improve on things in future. About the rotor fuel. It costs the same as tornado as far as I can see. Or am I wrong here?
The site shows INR1550 for 3 litres of 20% Nitro Fuel. That's INR516 per litre. Tornado retails for INR2100 for 4 litres. That's INR525 per litre. And when I factor in shipping for the rotor, it turns out more expensive than tornado which can be bought locally for me..
I sincerely hope I'm wrong about the costs here!
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: Tassem on March 30, 2011, 09:43:02 PM
I guess it should be cheaper. They're selling Tornado After Run Oil for INR320. Its available in Model Art for INR250. And I've always felt that Model Art cost is on the steep side for most things..
Oh and I'd be using it for the 4.6cc stock savage mill and the 2.5cc t-maxx.. Fully synthetic should be ok I guess?
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: traxxrc1 on March 30, 2011, 10:11:53 PM
Manuals always say A big NO to synthetics only. Thoguh if you have plans to upgrade or change the engine in 3-4Gallons, no loss in it
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: Tassem on March 30, 2011, 10:17:46 PM
Hmmm.. no plans for a new engine yet. But if I change I'm thinkin of a picco .28.
I guess we can always add some castor to get a good blend. So many options!!
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: mail4ajo on March 30, 2011, 11:06:36 PM
Castor may or may not blend in. Only a factory mixed fuel will have consistency. But you can always shake it and use, I think
Quote from: Tassem on March 30, 2011, 09:32:18 PM That's enough for me to stay away from it for now. But I wouldn't write them off completely lest they improve on things in future. About the rotor fuel. It costs the same as tornado as far as I can see. Or am I wrong here?
I dont think any local person will be able to beat the effort, time and R&D put in by these companies and match their quality levels. I never used to care since I used only RTR engines. But the scene changes with expensive engines. I think there has been some increase in Rotor pricing.
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: Tassem on March 30, 2011, 11:27:51 PM
To be honest I'd still be keen to go the rotor way as increased sales and exposure would bode well for us in future. And I think it ought to be superior for its Klotz content.. I guess I'll try one can and see how it goes from there..
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: amaygarg on April 18, 2011, 05:05:45 PM
where i can get fuel in hyderabad.............................
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: Vinodh Shekhar on September 10, 2011, 09:46:19 PM
Guys itz been a week since i got my Losi 10t RTR truggy n i still coudn rip it as i don hav d FUEL..no one is willing to ship Tornado fuel to chennai n am very much worried about using locally mixed one..Today i came across Rotorol fuel.. is it safe to use them? experts please help me out as am new to this..
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: roopak on January 08, 2012, 12:29:20 AM
Hello Can you please post the contact address. I need fuel for my revo 3.3
Roopak
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: Karthik9 on January 08, 2012, 01:19:06 AM
Check with Murali from Joy Rising Hobby in chennai, he stocks tornado.
JOY RISING HOBBY MURALI KANNADHASON +91 8939902767
Cars : MRP Rs ( Incl of Duties and Taxes ) MODEL ENGINE FUEL 1250 2 gallons 10 % Nitro MODEL ENGINE FUEL 1800 4 gallon 16 % Nitro MODEL ENGINE FUEL 1995 4 gallons 20 % Nitro MODEL ENGINE FUEL 1995 4 gallons 25 % Nitro MODEL ENGINE FUEL 2195 4 gallons 25 % Nitro ( Competition Grade ) Air : MODEL ENGINE FUEL 1295 4 gallons 1% Nitro
All those interested get in touch .
Sai
Sai with all due respect- the quantites are in litres, not gallons for the price mentioned. regards Avijit
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: rcforall on May 16, 2012, 12:41:09 PM
Thanks doc but of no consequence now I have stopped stocking these , I think rotor now has the.
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: avijit17basu on May 16, 2012, 12:42:52 PM
Quote from: Siddharth on November 11, 2010, 02:55:50 PM The cans are really nice. Easy to carry and very durable unlike the tornado metal ones, which tend to go out of shape. But again for local fuel even though it computer controlled and using Klotz Rs 450 per liter is too expensive. Once it reaches the Rs 300/- level then we can consider as an alternate for Tornado.
Try mixing your own fuel with 20% Klotz and 20% nitro and it will work out more expensive. Rotor and Tornado fuels are expensive but not overpriced. Compare the fuel prices at tower hobbies- even their home brand is as expensive.
Title: Re: Tornado Fuels in Chennai
Post by: pravesh736 on May 16, 2012, 03:06:13 PM
In tower or amain u get 4 gallon of car fuel 30% for 100 $(5000rs aprox).. in india 4 gallons cost 8000 rs for 20% .. i dont see how its expensive in their home country .. to me it seems cheap 100$ for 4 g compared to indias local fuel.. which almost cost same as tornado