Tornado Fuels in Chennai

Started by rcforall, October 05, 2010, 05:47:00 PM

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rcforall

Have some time in hand today  so thought I will make a ready reckoner as Anwar suggests as well  ;D :

Tornado Car 10
Specifications
10% NM
Super power

< 1% Additives
Special additives optimize fuel's combustion properties

12% Oil
Special dedicated oil blend for maximum protection resulting in prolonged engine life. Special blend based on synthetic oils and ricinus

77% Methanol

Tornado Car 16

Specifications
16% NM
Super Plus power

<1% Additives

12% Oil Special dedicated oil blend for maximum protection resulting in prolonged engine life Special blend based on synthetic oils and ricinus

71% Methanol

Tornado  20
Specifications
20% NM
Supreme power

<1% Additives

10,8% Oil
Special dedicated oil blend for off-road characteristics based on ricinus and synthetic oils

68,2% Methanol

Tornado Car 25
Specifications
25% NM
Surpreme power

<1% Additives

10,5% Oil
Special dedicated oil blend containing ricinus and synthetic oils for maximum protection resulting in prolonged engine life. Special blend based on synthetic oils and ricinus

63,5% Methanol

Tornado Car 25  competition
Specifications
25% NM
Surpreme power

<1,5% Additives

8,6% Oil
Special dedicated oil blend for lean setting combined with maximum protection based on ricinus and synthetic oils

64,9% Methanol

Tornado Flight 1
Specifications
1% NM
Basic power

<1% Additives
Special additives optimize fuel's combustion properties

16,5% Oil
Special dedicated oil blend for maximum protection resulting in prolonged engine life Special blend based on ricinus and synthetic oils

81,5% Methanol

Hope it is useful.

Rgds
Sai
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falcon89

hi,

i just got a losi ten-t and i haven't been able to run it yet since i haven't been able to source good fuel.Where can i get the tornado fuel in chennai, :help:.

anwar

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Siddharth

We have been using Tornado fuel on all our cars till date.We have had absolutely no issues yet. The best part if that the fuel supply is continous.

At one point in time there was 20% offroad and 30% offroad avail which had a higher oil content (i think 14%), but now they are sticking to regular car fuel.

At the current pricing i think tornado makes most sense. We also tried Byrons for a while, but for some reason the TRX 3.3 engines didnt like it too much plus there was no assurance of supply.

I saw a lot of people using the new rotor fuel, none had issues with it. But unless it costs half as much as tornado i personally wouldnt venture into it.

@ajo - what is the cost of the rotor fuel?
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mail4ajo

Quote from: Siddharth on November 11, 2010, 08:46:05 AM
@ajo - what is the cost of the rotor fuel?
Its about Rs 450 a litre for 15%, But with larger quantities, I think you can get a better rate and also customize your fuel.

The price will definitely not be half the rate of imported fuel, because the lube used is Klotz which is far superior to any local castor oil. Search to see the price of Klotz.

Also the fuel is computer controlled mixed in a proper setting unlike previously made local fuel.

The packaging is also great. You must have seen the cans. The cans are great quality ones.
*Mugen Seiki MBX7 with Novarossi P5 engine*
*Mugen Seiki MBX6T M-Spec with Novarossi P5 engine*
*Mugen MBX6 Eco with Mamba Monster 2200kv*
*HPI Mini Recon with BL system*
*Team Losi 1/24 rally*
*Team Associated RC8 onroad GT Car, Team Orion power system coming soon...
*Hobbyking 1/18 Rally Extreme BL*
*Sanwa MT-4 radio*
Previously owned - Mugen Seiki MBX6 M-Spec, Thunder Tiger MTA4 S50, ST-1, Sparrowhawk XB, HPI BAJA 5Bss, TRAXXAS REVO 3.3

Siddharth

The cans are really nice. Easy to carry and very durable unlike the tornado metal ones, which tend to go out of shape. But again for local fuel even though it computer controlled and using Klotz Rs 450 per liter is too expensive. Once it reaches the Rs 300/- level then we can consider as an alternate for Tornado.
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mail4ajo

Quote from: Siddharth on November 11, 2010, 02:55:50 PM
But again for local fuel even though it computer controlled and using Klotz Rs 450 per liter is too expensive. Once it reaches the Rs 300/- level then we can consider as an alternate for Tornado.

Like I said, larger quantities can reduce price to much lower levels. I cannot discuss the rates I receive. And also all the components are imported, Methanol from Shell, Chinese Nitro, anti frothing and anti rust agents.

BLR Jo and team was given a 3 litre sample to test. Will find out if Rotor got any feedback from them.
*Mugen Seiki MBX7 with Novarossi P5 engine*
*Mugen Seiki MBX6T M-Spec with Novarossi P5 engine*
*Mugen MBX6 Eco with Mamba Monster 2200kv*
*HPI Mini Recon with BL system*
*Team Losi 1/24 rally*
*Team Associated RC8 onroad GT Car, Team Orion power system coming soon...
*Hobbyking 1/18 Rally Extreme BL*
*Sanwa MT-4 radio*
Previously owned - Mugen Seiki MBX6 M-Spec, Thunder Tiger MTA4 S50, ST-1, Sparrowhawk XB, HPI BAJA 5Bss, TRAXXAS REVO 3.3

Tassem

Hey Guys!

I'm reviving this thread cause I just got off the phone with Mr.Ethiraj who manufactures Power Glo fuel. He quoted Rs.300/litre for 20% Nitro and 15%Lube mix.

Is this a good alternative for Tornado 20%? I know cost wise it makes sense. But what about the quality?

Tassem.
Terrain? If I cant Slash it, I'll Savage it!!

mail4ajo

I would say dont. Off late we are having some issues with local fuel. With a high cost/performance engine like Novarossi and Axe Rossi at stake, I am planning to shift back to Tornado.
*Mugen Seiki MBX7 with Novarossi P5 engine*
*Mugen Seiki MBX6T M-Spec with Novarossi P5 engine*
*Mugen MBX6 Eco with Mamba Monster 2200kv*
*HPI Mini Recon with BL system*
*Team Losi 1/24 rally*
*Team Associated RC8 onroad GT Car, Team Orion power system coming soon...
*Hobbyking 1/18 Rally Extreme BL*
*Sanwa MT-4 radio*
Previously owned - Mugen Seiki MBX6 M-Spec, Thunder Tiger MTA4 S50, ST-1, Sparrowhawk XB, HPI BAJA 5Bss, TRAXXAS REVO 3.3

Tassem

Hmmm.. I don't want to risk ruining my engine. Plus the biggest difficulty is that he can't provide smaller quantities so that I can test it out. It's a gallon minimum.

What sort of issues were you facing with them?
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mail4ajo

Rotor's first few batches of fuel was made by this guy. We brought it because it was cheap. It sucked, overheating, gumming, strange smell etc. Then rotor started their own manufacturing with imported components which was by far the best locally made fuel I have used. Clean burning, nicely packed, cost effective. Murali beat Tornado users from across the country with just 15% nitro in the RCINC truggy race. Issue is that it has no castor, only synthetic which is not friendly to high performance engines.

Every commercially made fuel in the world, Tornado, Byron, RB, Odonell, TOP fuel has atleast some castor. Even the high performance race grade of 33% has castor. So I am doubtful of using it on my Novarossi.
*Mugen Seiki MBX7 with Novarossi P5 engine*
*Mugen Seiki MBX6T M-Spec with Novarossi P5 engine*
*Mugen MBX6 Eco with Mamba Monster 2200kv*
*HPI Mini Recon with BL system*
*Team Losi 1/24 rally*
*Team Associated RC8 onroad GT Car, Team Orion power system coming soon...
*Hobbyking 1/18 Rally Extreme BL*
*Sanwa MT-4 radio*
Previously owned - Mugen Seiki MBX6 M-Spec, Thunder Tiger MTA4 S50, ST-1, Sparrowhawk XB, HPI BAJA 5Bss, TRAXXAS REVO 3.3

Tassem

That's enough for me to stay away from it for now. But I wouldn't write them off completely lest they improve on things in future. About the rotor fuel. It costs the same as tornado as far as I can see. Or am I wrong here?

The site shows INR1550 for 3 litres of 20% Nitro Fuel. That's INR516 per litre. Tornado retails for INR2100 for 4 litres. That's INR525 per litre. And when I factor in shipping for the rotor, it turns out more expensive than tornado which can be bought locally for me..

I sincerely hope I'm wrong about the costs here!
Terrain? If I cant Slash it, I'll Savage it!!

Tassem

I guess it should be cheaper. They're selling Tornado After Run Oil for INR320. Its available in Model Art for INR250. And I've always felt that Model Art cost is on the steep side for most things..

Oh and I'd be using it for the 4.6cc stock savage mill and the 2.5cc t-maxx.. Fully synthetic should be ok I guess?
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traxxrc1

Manuals always say A big NO to synthetics only.
Thoguh if you have plans to upgrade or change the engine in 3-4Gallons, no loss in it
I'll be back.

Tassem

Hmmm.. no plans for a new engine yet. But if I change I'm thinkin of a picco .28.

I guess we can always add some castor to get a good blend. So many options!!
Terrain? If I cant Slash it, I'll Savage it!!

mail4ajo

#41
Quote from: Tassem on March 30, 2011, 10:17:46 PM
I guess we can always add some castor to get a good blend. So many options!!
Castor may or may not blend in. Only a factory mixed fuel will have consistency. But you can always shake it and use, I think

Quote from: Tassem on March 30, 2011, 09:32:18 PM
That's enough for me to stay away from it for now. But I wouldn't write them off completely lest they improve on things in future. About the rotor fuel. It costs the same as tornado as far as I can see. Or am I wrong here?

I dont think any local person will be able to beat the effort, time and R&D put in by these companies and match their quality levels. I never used to care since I used only RTR engines. But the scene changes with expensive engines. I think there has been some increase in Rotor pricing.
*Mugen Seiki MBX7 with Novarossi P5 engine*
*Mugen Seiki MBX6T M-Spec with Novarossi P5 engine*
*Mugen MBX6 Eco with Mamba Monster 2200kv*
*HPI Mini Recon with BL system*
*Team Losi 1/24 rally*
*Team Associated RC8 onroad GT Car, Team Orion power system coming soon...
*Hobbyking 1/18 Rally Extreme BL*
*Sanwa MT-4 radio*
Previously owned - Mugen Seiki MBX6 M-Spec, Thunder Tiger MTA4 S50, ST-1, Sparrowhawk XB, HPI BAJA 5Bss, TRAXXAS REVO 3.3

Tassem

To be honest I'd still be keen to go the rotor way as increased sales and exposure would bode well for us in future. And I think it ought to be superior for its Klotz content.. I guess I'll try one can and see how it goes from there..
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amaygarg

where i can get fuel in hyderabad.............................
Revo 3.3

Vinodh Shekhar

Guys itz been a week since i got my Losi 10t RTR truggy n i still coudn rip it as i don hav d FUEL..no one is willing to ship Tornado fuel to chennai n am very much worried about using locally mixed one..Today i came across Rotorol fuel.. is it safe to use them? experts please help me out as am new to this..

roopak

Hello
      Can you please post the contact address. I need fuel for my revo 3.3


Roopak 

Karthik9

Check with Murali from Joy Rising Hobby in chennai, he stocks tornado.

JOY RISING HOBBY
MURALI KANNADHASON
+91 8939902767

#23,Kannadhasan Salai, T.nagar,
Chennai-17 | ph +91 44 24332682

avijit17basu

Quote from: rcforall on October 05, 2010, 05:47:00 PM
Finally  Avinash got me to Start stocking Tornado fuels in Chennai to break our all electric profile ;D   :

We just received  the following :

Cars :
                                  MRP Rs ( Incl of Duties and Taxes )
   MODEL ENGINE FUEL                     1250                                           2 gallons           10 % Nitro                     
   MODEL ENGINE FUEL                     1800                                           4 gallon             16 % Nitro
   MODEL ENGINE FUEL                     1995                                           4 gallons            20 % Nitro
   MODEL ENGINE FUEL                        1995                                           4 gallons            25 % Nitro
   MODEL ENGINE FUEL                     2195                                           4 gallons            25 % Nitro ( Competition Grade )
Air :
        MODEL ENGINE FUEL                        1295                                           4 gallons            1% Nitro

All  those interested  get in touch .

Sai   


Sai with all due respect- the quantites are in litres, not gallons for the price mentioned.
regards
Avijit

rcforall

Thanks doc but of no consequence now I have stopped stocking these , I think rotor now has the.
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avijit17basu

Quote from: Siddharth on November 11, 2010, 02:55:50 PM
The cans are really nice. Easy to carry and very durable unlike the tornado metal ones, which tend to go out of shape. But again for local fuel even though it computer controlled and using Klotz Rs 450 per liter is too expensive. Once it reaches the Rs 300/- level then we can consider as an alternate for Tornado.

Try mixing your own fuel with 20% Klotz and 20% nitro and it will work out more expensive. Rotor and Tornado fuels are expensive but not overpriced.
Compare the fuel prices at tower hobbies- even their home brand is as expensive.