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Title: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: bmanoj2 on June 10, 2010, 05:57:45 PM
Dear All,
I got a new RCGF 15 cc engine, and am in search of a suitable Plane for the same. Basically I want to fly this in Kerala. I would like to have something next to a trainer. I also would like to know if any of you have experience in doing this, if so the fuel tank also to be changed?.  I would really appreciate if any of you can point out all the details I should consider when converting a nitro model to gas...
:headscratch: ??? :headscratch:
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: laldenga on June 10, 2010, 08:03:15 PM
From where did you get it, and what is its price in Indian currency ?
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: anwar on June 11, 2010, 03:02:55 AM
Quote from: bmanoj2 on June 10, 2010, 05:57:45 PM
I got a new RCGF 15 cc engine, and am in search of a suitable Plane for the same. Basically I want to fly this in Kerala.

Wicked minds think alike... we just got one too, to be taken to Kerala ! ;)

Our plan is to buy an airframe locally in India, something in the 60 size (may come down to 46 possibly). Typically the fuel lines are changed, and the tank rubber stopper.
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: karthikr_2922 on June 11, 2010, 09:16:19 AM
Quote from: bmanoj2 on June 10, 2010, 05:57:45 PM
Dear All,
I got a new RCGF 15 cc engine

Hi, do you mind telling me where did you get hold of the 15cc petrol engine? I need one .

Cheers!
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: bmanoj2 on June 11, 2010, 09:58:26 AM
 
Quote from: anwar on June 11, 2010, 03:02:55 AM
Wicked minds think alike... we just got one too, to be taken to Kerala ! ;)

Our plan is to buy an airframe locally in India, something in the 60 size (may come down to 46 possibly). Typically the fuel lines are changed, and the tank rubber stopper.

hahahahahhahahahaha anwar Giiiii :bow: :bow: I am nor sure if 46 size is ok for the mounting size :headscratch:. And the weight of the engine is approx 900 gms? :headscratch: Do you think a 60 size stick will be ok ? and where do you think i can find small tank for gas ?
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: sushil_anand on June 11, 2010, 11:41:38 AM

Paylessflymore has DuBro tanks which are suitable for gas and glow. A 60 size stick would be the smallest I would consider with this engine.
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: anwar on June 11, 2010, 12:48:32 PM
Quote from: karthikr_2922 on June 11, 2010, 09:16:19 AM
Hi, do you mind telling me where did you get hold of the 15cc petrol engine? I need one .

We order directly from RCGF.

http://www.rcindia.org/fuel-and-engines/rcg-26cc-gas-engine/msg14587/#msg14587
http://www.zjrcgf.com/about.asp?id=2
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: anwar on June 11, 2010, 01:28:40 PM
Quote from: bmanoj2 on June 11, 2010, 09:58:26 AM
I am nor sure if 46 size is ok for the mounting size :headscratch:. And the weight of the engine is approx 900 gms? :headscratch:

When we were researching this engine earlier, we saw reports by multiple users who used these engines on 46 size (Katanas mostly). 

In any case, 60 size is a sure shot, 46 may required some weight tweaking (my guess is that we will have to add tail weight).
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: bmanoj2 on June 11, 2010, 01:59:59 PM
Dear Anwar Gi,
I never had a stick in my collection. I think i will take one this time... When are you planing your vacaation ?? I will be there for one month from 1st august. May be we can meet. I have plans to come to Guruvayoor.. :)
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: anwar on June 11, 2010, 02:07:37 PM
Let us go fly with Santhosh in Irinjalakuda ;)  I should be there all of August pretty much, unless something urgent pops up which forces me travel out again.
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: bmanoj2 on June 11, 2010, 07:06:55 PM
Ya Sure. :thumbsup: ;D I hope my plan to bring the stick will work. Can you let me know from where you buy the model in india :help:. Please send me a PM if its ok.
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: anwar on June 11, 2010, 08:40:45 PM
No need for PM business when discussing sources ;) 

I would check RCDhamaka first, as I have previous experience with them, and they tend to carry many glow/gas models, and are generally very helpful.  Not sure if they have any Stick models though.
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: bmanoj2 on June 11, 2010, 10:15:45 PM
I will do that. Thank you  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: sushil_anand on June 12, 2010, 10:58:52 AM
Quote from: anwar on June 11, 2010, 01:28:40 PM
When we were researching this engine earlier, we saw reports by multiple users who used these engines on 46 size (Katanas mostly). 
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The excess power is fine for Katana/3D flying but could/would be a handful for someone who - by his own admission -  is looking at just beyond a trainer level airplane.
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: anwar on June 12, 2010, 11:12:12 AM
Going by his earlier posts/videos, Manoj bhai doesn't seem to be at the trainer level... although for this particular model, he wanted something that is mild ;)

The .46 Yak 54 I got from RCDhamaka flies like a trainer on low throws (yes, there is no self stabilization), the landing required a small bit of additional speed compared to a high-winger.  And as the winds pick up, landing also becomes a *slow* affair :)
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: bmanoj2 on June 12, 2010, 11:15:02 AM
Katana is a fine plane I used to have one in my collection. My Problem is that I wont get nitro fuel in Kerala, I dont have huge opn ground to fly. Keeping all this in mind I need to take a plane which is suitable for 15 cc gas and is capable of 3d. I have in mind Extra 60 size but i need to find out if the 15 cc engine can be mounted in theses models. Please share your ideas if you have any experiance in this.
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: anwar on June 12, 2010, 11:17:13 AM
Ah, like I suspected, the Katana (or other 3D) types will suit you ;)  So you can go for any of the 60 size 3D models available at RCDhamaka (or other stores, if you can't find what you want), or consider even 46 size models.
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: bmanoj2 on June 12, 2010, 11:23:11 AM
hahahahahaha  ;D Thank you Anwar Gi. I already send a mail to RC Dhamaka regarding this. I am waiting for a list of 60 size models so that I can check the mounting details and weight. Any suggestion on the maximum model weight for this engine?? ???
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: bmanoj2 on June 12, 2010, 01:44:28 PM
Anwar Gi,
What do you think of this model ?
Worldmodels
http://www.theworldmodels.com/para/products/airplanedetails.php?airplaneid=98
This model has got plenty of space to work from the top as the canopy part is large.
Main Wing is 2 pice and excatly what I was looking for.
Please let me know how to get a gas cap for the fuel tank as its not available here. Or any short cuts to make one ?
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: santhosh on June 12, 2010, 10:11:42 PM
Quote from: anwar on June 11, 2010, 02:07:37 PM
Let us go fly with Santhosh in Irinjalakuda ;)  I should be there all of August pretty much, unless something urgent pops up which forces me travel out again.
always welcome manoj.we can fly at irinjalakuda,no more flying at our paddy fields for the coming few months as the rain started here
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: anwar on June 12, 2010, 10:21:08 PM
Quote from: bmanoj2 on June 12, 2010, 01:44:28 PM
What do you think of this model ?
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Please let me know how to get a gas cap for the fuel tank as its not available here. Or any short cuts to make one ?

The model looks cool and should work with that engine !  But are you planning to get it in India, or carry it with you ?

I am pretty sure Dubro fuel tanks are available at places like HobbyCenter, have you checked with them ?  I heard that they are doing brisk business at their new outlet in the Dubai Mall.   

http://www.thedubaimall.com/en/shop/hobby-centre
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: bmanoj2 on June 13, 2010, 08:44:45 AM
Well they have shifted the First shop in Airport road to a nearby building and are still not back to normal. Dubai mall shop I never tried. But the new and advanced shop of Ultimate heli at Garhood (again near airport) is doing Great. I believe you have already visited this one. If not have a look at the website and the shop photos.. http://www.ultimate-heli.com/website_heli/heli_index.html
I picked up the model yesterday from Hobby world (Yassar) at karama. I got a sale offer for the model AED 650. Now I have to find the gas cap and do the basic assembly, pack it back in the same box and take along with me. Final Fixing will be done back home. :)
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: bmanoj2 on June 13, 2010, 08:49:53 AM
Quote from: santhosh on June 12, 2010, 10:11:42 PM
always welcome manoj.we can fly at irinjalakuda,no more flying at our paddy fields for the coming few months as the rain started here

Hahahhaha I didnt see your post. Thank you for the invitation we will try to make a trip to your place. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: bmanoj2 on June 13, 2010, 10:25:19 PM
Some pictures of the new engine  :)
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: bmanoj2 on June 13, 2010, 10:35:14 PM
Some more
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: bmanoj2 on June 16, 2010, 09:06:36 AM
Finally some pictures of my 60 size extra
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: karthikr_2922 on June 16, 2010, 10:11:51 AM
Quote from: bmanoj2 on June 13, 2010, 10:35:14 PM
Some more

Damn!! Looks neat, almost the size of a nitro big block. What did it cost you?
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: anwar on June 16, 2010, 10:14:30 AM
Smaller cousin of this : http://www.rcindia.org/fuel-and-engines/the-3w-75i-gasoline-engine/msg19245/#msg19245  ;)

It is good that you are doing the break-in etc in Dubai, and then taking just the engine to Kerala. Guess taking the engine to Bangalore, and getting it fixed there itself on an airframe would be a good idea, instead of trying to do it back in Kerala and then realizing that you are missing some small item needed to complete the build.

Got my engine too.  I am going to try it on my .46 Yak 54 (which is already running an oversized OS 55 2-stroke), before taking it home.
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: bmanoj2 on June 16, 2010, 11:03:09 AM
Quote from: karthikr_2922 on June 16, 2010, 10:11:51 AM
Damn!! Looks neat, almost the size of a nitro big block. What did it cost you?


Around 7200 IRS
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: bmanoj2 on June 16, 2010, 11:24:48 AM
Hahaha exactly what I was thinking today Anwar Gi ... With your suggestion I am totally in double mind. What I was thinking was to fix the servos, hinges etc here in dubai. Only the engine, tail wing assembly etc will be done back home (Epoxy fittings). Any Way I still have 1 month to decide.
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: anwar on June 16, 2010, 11:50:59 AM
Oh.. I misunderstood you.  I thought you are still interested in getting an airframe from Bangalore itself, after reading this : http://www.rcindia.org/rc-outlets-and-resellers/bangalore-rcdhamaka-com/msg23494/#msg23494
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: karthikr_2922 on June 16, 2010, 01:38:24 PM
Guys, what kind of horse power does this thing belts out. I am in search of an engine for my dragster project (either a 8+cc nitro or this). Also, is the engine torquey in nature? Power distribution across the band?

Cheers!
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: anwar on June 16, 2010, 04:26:10 PM
Per manufacturer spec, 2.1HP.

http://www.zjrcgf.com/productdetail.asp?id=103
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: bmanoj2 on September 20, 2010, 08:13:32 AM
Hi every one. I finished building my Extra..... I used my 15cc gas engine and now I am facing a problem. The supplied fuel tank insert is suitable for nitro, I canot use it for Gas. The gas conversion was available in the local hobby shops earlier. But I tried every place and its out of stock. It seems that I have to fabricate one ?? Anyone can help me ?? I will post some pictures soon.
Title: Re: 15 CC Gas Engine
Post by: bmanoj2 on September 20, 2010, 10:28:44 AM
Pictures.
Please help to find a solution for the fuel stopper.. ???