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Title: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: PARAM on February 23, 2013, 10:50:04 PM
This is the second kit we are building for the Sweep stakes'

This is Laser cut stick from Hobby king' we are using AP 0.15 Glow Engine for the same.

Now for the formalitis
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: sundaram on February 23, 2013, 10:58:35 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-lm-wf20mLhg/USj2oDY4nVI/AAAAAAAAAbg/k85aplzLV1I/s646/20130223_222847.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-XNKLY04c54k/USj3vhgrG0I/AAAAAAAAAb4/vRh5VAEjOhY/s646/20130223_223150.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Vwd_SxqRscQ/USj18SdJjlI/AAAAAAAAAbY/rR-Fhu_x8Nc/s646/20130223_222826.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-VUUk6Rasfk4/USj3MXnZkbI/AAAAAAAAAbo/0rPd8Kv5mSY/s646/20130223_222909.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-CMBgOGGkJw8/USj3ggL1VzI/AAAAAAAAAbw/quMHcIy0K4o/s499/20130223_223048.jpg)

Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: PARAM on February 25, 2013, 08:53:37 AM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8JNgXiuVZzE/USkEHM9sDzI/AAAAAAAAAd8/fpJZFCbChPg/s900/20130223_222847.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-53gDM57aGEY/USkEHE-RpBI/AAAAAAAAAds/ljsKo1aiWQA/s900/20130223_222826.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5XpbjbrzXHo/USkEHJBOBzI/AAAAAAAAAd0/NeVblp_DjRA/s900/20130223_222909.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Ojgq6KMPGhE/USkEHOgGxiI/AAAAAAAAAdk/XkulekaS1pI/s675/20130223_223048.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Egq_h4tpn4I/USkEHGUMcqI/AAAAAAAAAeA/Krqzo1B5VlQ/s900/20130223_223150.jpg)

LASER CUT STICK http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__29648__Big_Stick_Laser_Cut_Balsa_Kit_1060mm_Kit_.html (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__29648__Big_Stick_Laser_Cut_Balsa_Kit_1060mm_Kit_.html)
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: sanjayrai55 on February 25, 2013, 09:57:51 AM
All the best Param & Sandy. Should be a very interesting build, especially from my experience with elerc.com's instructions :D

Despite all that, the models are lovely, and great fun to build
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: sundaram on March 18, 2013, 06:12:42 PM
Build Progress of this Sunday on the laser stick.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-AbfXLkEIxrw/UUcGmhLk_ZI/AAAAAAAAA3E/9LbqsKwd6Bk/s760/100_2032.JPG)(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-USTNBFJzzlg/UUcGnKZ7iOI/AAAAAAAAA3M/dWzxvAtcVXg/s760/100_2033.JPG)(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-lho5mRf1sTo/UUcGoxNGc_I/AAAAAAAAA3U/rrqKJo4RJI8/s760/100_2034.JPG)(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-B32i8v2JWmM/UUcGzjuFfqI/AAAAAAAAA3c/3pMve04vnZ0/s574/100_2035.JPG)

Like any good scratch builder parts separated from the sheets of Balsa and lite ply and the usable scraps of both Balsa and Lite ply collected separately for future use.  ;D
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 18, 2013, 06:16:35 PM
All set now! I'm still jealous of your green rubber mat :)
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: sundaram on March 18, 2013, 06:24:02 PM
Sir green Mat is the recent acquisitions from I2CGlobal  ebay.in after your encouragement on VC's thread.  ;D

Isn't that so obvious from the pad my son is using above the green mat to cut out parts.   ;)
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: sundaram on March 18, 2013, 06:31:16 PM
With the experience of Idol Laser build under our belt, build of this one was on fast forward mode. Even my son knew before how it has to progress and he was ready with the parts even before you could ask him are tell him.

Some more build photos.

Fuse and tail feathers assembled.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-NuR7S2WpxxM/UUcG0P0KEkI/AAAAAAAAA3o/Hj_heYzssCE/s574/100_2036.JPG)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-O2I5rW8B-dI/UUcG0XwljiI/AAAAAAAAA3s/EDe5ybSmdu0/s760/100_2037.JPG)
Wing ribs assembled
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-V6YgwhKUOeM/UUcG_YWEFXI/AAAAAAAAA38/N_3j3ldSh6U/s760/100_2038.JPG)
Probable location for the fuel tank
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0nmz7rLE5KA/UUcG_qZ67AI/AAAAAAAAA4E/qEnCjYzMhQA/s760/100_2039.JPG)
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: sundaram on March 18, 2013, 06:32:54 PM
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-QYVdDYNvSK0/UUcG9IkvunI/AAAAAAAAA30/N0Zf_m_s3Ww/s760/100_2040.JPG)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-X-4y94QkOkM/UUcHIgaUy0I/AAAAAAAAA4M/bXnIyMrUzW8/s760/100_2041.JPG)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-HjkWxuld_bU/UUcHKDZ5uSI/AAAAAAAAA4U/re9HSdxgv8Y/s760/100_2043.JPG)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-u9UL6DN7t3M/UUcHK27imII/AAAAAAAAA4c/-xiIbBJbHVs/s760/100_2044.JPG)
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 18, 2013, 07:12:26 PM
Great! Really taking shape fast. Any dihedral? The reason I ask is I have the same kit from RCB
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: sundaram on March 18, 2013, 07:26:52 PM
Transom does not have the slot cut for the ribs by design for a dihedral, though you can easily give dihedral  by fitting the inner most rib at an angle. The wing joiner provided is straight and not at an angle for a dihedral and a new one has to be fabricated to provide a dihedral. Any how the one provided is over sized and would not go in the slot in the ribs, so perforce I am cutting out a fresh one to the size from the left over scraps of lite ply.

Though this was supposedly with ailerons it is not already pre-cut in the parts. One has to cut out the aileron from the trailing edge after the trailing edge spacer. The space on the fuse for mounting the wings provided is there only for a wing cut without the aileron in the middle. So even if one decides to go without the aileron cut out, inner two ribs trailing edge have to be cut any how to accommodate the wings on the fuse.

Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: sundaram on March 25, 2013, 09:00:21 AM
Some more Progress on the model.

Wing joined together
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-mSwGaVuGWF0/UU6GdKDT1XI/AAAAAAAAA60/UKxTBOfb6E8/s900/2013+-+3)

This wing wants to take to air already  :giggle:
Earlier it was kept like this on the wall.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-p9ys9dcfYDQ/UU6GYg2YIFI/AAAAAAAAA6Y/qczJnzozIt0/s900/2013+-+2)

On a gust of wind it just took off from here and glided partially and landed on one corner and already got one beauty spot.  :(

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-408X5jtIKHg/UU6Ga56qsnI/AAAAAAAAA6k/6C0HM5O0AR0/s900/2013+-+4)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-dWTL46yrSBc/UU6GWsgv-_I/AAAAAAAAA6M/SwA966kMoA0/s675/2013+-+1)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-RKPQmXCo8oU/UU6ABPFTFII/AAAAAAAAA5Q/NBllcq1QJcs/s900/2013+-+1)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AJivZ9R98Tg/UU_BJ5RFXjI/AAAAAAAAA9E/sUHsVPBckSg/s900/2013+-+1)
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: rcpilotacro on March 25, 2013, 02:12:26 PM
Glider wing :banghead:
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: sundaram on March 25, 2013, 03:01:47 PM
Why Gusty you wanted a swastik on it?  :)

The Top surface is not yet covered it is going to be Blood red with Swastik.

Now a days My colour scheme are mostly done keeping your flying in mind you know why  ;)  :giggle:
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: sundaram on March 28, 2013, 12:34:18 AM
By tomorrow the stick should be ready.

some more build progress.
The wing fully covered hinged and the tail feathers covered and hinged.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3l-3NRW9fFs/UVM_2s7VNOI/AAAAAAAAA-Q/d0fog8JzaLM/s760/2013+-+2)
The engine mounts fabricated with lite ply
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-jOSdduXmaEY/UVM_2iXoquI/AAAAAAAAA-w/-Lz3qd-GToM/s760/2013+-+6)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-g4hzQ2c14aM/UVM_2j8qwxI/AAAAAAAAA-o/Jo1TRv15ZnU/s760/2013+-+5)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-py4xP0M6WlE/UVM_2mQircI/AAAAAAAAA-g/9xFkOr6MCLE/s760/2013+-+4)(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-rdR4WuqLtE0/UVM_2kBgUXI/AAAAAAAAA-Y/4yRH0fjMX7s/s760/2013+-+3)

The fit of the entire setup for CG check
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Frwntu1ovkQ/UVM_2hbWr9I/AAAAAAAAA-I/x-PM7h2no7U/s760/2013+-+1)
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: sundaram on March 28, 2013, 12:38:08 AM
Balance what is left are

1.    Servo for the throttle.
2.    placement of the fuel tank.
3.    covering of the nose.
4.    covering of the fuse.
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: theleabres on March 28, 2013, 08:13:02 AM
With the fuel tank installed and filled, will you need to add weight in the rer ar to get the proper CG?
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: rajsigma on March 28, 2013, 08:45:25 AM
Nice build ......... {:)}
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: sundaram on March 28, 2013, 09:01:14 AM
Thanks

@theleabres

I was also doubting the same, since the Engine with exaust at the rear was mounted slightly ahead. However the CG with Dry  Fuel tank In front is at 30% without the battery . If I mount the tank at CG and bty slightly behind it is still tail heavy. hoping the throttle servo right in front might  compensate
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: atul_pg on March 28, 2013, 03:43:48 PM
A really nice father-son build..great stuff..a video will be great..all the best..
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: sundaram on March 28, 2013, 04:27:45 PM
Thanks Atul Video follows
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: sundaram on March 29, 2013, 07:11:15 PM
It was finally completed yesterday

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0Q0zSfQSoJg/UVVO98yHgHI/AAAAAAAABBE/dHOwpTKXkUE/s760/2013+-+6)(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-I5k6-8Aawvc/UVVO94wijdI/AAAAAAAABBA/a2Jwp28XADw/s760/2013+-+7)(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-aq2DCYQhnBY/UVVO93ME6HI/AAAAAAAABA8/qLirMZHV53I/s760/2013+-+5)(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-khMvUXW_Wkk/UVVO97fd3DI/AAAAAAAABAw/f2viRn802ow/s760/2013+-+3)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-eUCuJSmN5KI/UVVO962DIWI/AAAAAAAABBI/X-Cq1lDD9p0/s760/2013+-+4)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xlny8B8mM3o/UVVO960LrvI/AAAAAAAABBM/bhIESkmiZdo/s760/2013+-+1)(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b8SV_VsxsW0/UVVO9zcppGI/AAAAAAAABBQ/3FBnAjO9y4Y/s760/2013+-+2)
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: veloci on March 29, 2013, 08:58:42 PM
Good one   {:)}
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: sundaram on March 29, 2013, 11:15:54 PM
Thanks

Its AUW is 820 gms with Full Tank and 2S Lipo. The CG is at 30% Chord.

Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: rc ram on March 29, 2013, 11:22:58 PM
 :goodjob: nice build  {:)}
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: sundaram on March 30, 2013, 12:58:20 PM
 :thanks:
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: sundaram on March 31, 2013, 09:28:10 PM
This is the second test run. Engine Starts easy with just on third hand flick always. Could not Maiden today as the throttle Servo failed me for the second time also. Now changed the servo to a new one.

Had gone on a Picnic Today did some slope soaring of Shikra. could keep the Shikra airborne for close to three hours  without opening throttle for even once all the time. Shikra came down with 1600 Mah Lipo at 65% capacity after all the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pHaRgzrgK4

RPM came close to 13400 on a 7x5 prop. This one can easily touch 15000. Static Thrust was close to plus 600 gms. This one is going to be a rocket. Decided to change the Futaba R6004FF four channel Rx to a Futaba R617FS since with R6004FF will easily go out of range.
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: abhay on March 31, 2013, 09:58:21 PM
waiting to see it fly... (:|~ (:|~
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: sundaram on April 05, 2013, 11:35:58 PM
This one was late in evening so apologies for poor light condition and video.

The stick did really well for the first flight. It was amazingly fast had a pretty tough time getting it down on the small ground due to high  tree line all around. was always running out of runway length. had to do a nose down hard landing. No damage though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le5rxEthDy0

watch out for next video in good light condition with a better camera.
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: sundaram on November 08, 2013, 04:42:09 PM
This model has been the favorite one till date. Flies agile like a combat glow engine model, tracks as if on rail, floats and glides smooth like a foamy glider in slow speed. All you need is football ground open space. Can be easily hand launched. Full tank 4 ounces runs for more than 15mins. Always now I land it dry tank dead stick.

Now so impressed with the engine went ahead and bought one more same engine AP YELLOW JACKET 0.15.  ;D
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: sanjayrai55 on November 08, 2013, 05:29:47 PM
Sandy Saheb, from where did you get it?
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: sundaram on November 08, 2013, 10:44:49 PM
Sanjay Sir RCHYDRABAD ebay.

http://www.ebay.in/itm/111194182055?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: Nithinraj Kotian on November 09, 2013, 10:44:03 AM
sundaram sir  what is the difference between AP HORNET 0.15 engine & AP YELLOW JACKET 0.15 engine  :headscratch: :headscratch:
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: sundaram on November 09, 2013, 11:44:57 AM
Both same no difference.
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: sanjayrai55 on November 09, 2013, 02:06:57 PM
No wonder I was confused! It IS ASP not AP :D  :D
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: sundaram on November 09, 2013, 04:43:17 PM
Not as an absolute novice trainer model since no dihedral but amazingly aerobatic surely as a second trainer for aerobatics defenitely.

This one has such a small flight envelop, crazy fun to do aero combat with visiting Eagles. You can do multiple circles  around the poor bird. After few minutes they all flee and abandon the feild.  :giggle:
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: sundaram on April 06, 2014, 05:53:44 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6SADU-xZz4 (//http://)
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: sundaram on April 06, 2014, 07:07:05 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ub-5f5MlIA (//http://)
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: PARAM on June 11, 2014, 11:12:08 AM
In a second of loss of orientation when flying low and far with trees in background the model was totalled  :P . RIP. Though repairable, building a new one is in order. Now two similar ones are planned to be build for flying in formation with same identical engines.
Title: Re: Build and fly Laser cut Stick Kit from HK with AP O.15 Glow Engine
Post by: prabu85 on June 24, 2018, 10:13:06 PM
What size glow plug is used for this engine 0.9 & 0.15

Kindly suggest me.