Build log 1/4 Scale Tiger Moth from kit

Started by flyingboxcar, June 17, 2011, 12:19:49 PM

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flyingboxcar

Thanks Don, those pictures and URL  do clarify a lot.

CT4-  I would be using a laser 150
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doncoe

Manish. Here's another shot which may inspire you :giggle:
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flyingboxcar

Inspire it does Don, but I think I will stick around with method indicated at the Kit  ;D
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flyingboxcar

Having discovered that the cabane wires (the rear ones ) were a bit too long, and would not take up the slack before bottoming out, I went about fashioning attachment bits out of brass and anchored them elsewhere. Though I was sure that with this arrangement, I will have to modify the throttle servo plate (basically cut few holes for the wires to pass through). After spending some time with a sheet of brass, snips, and some files and drilling all seemed well.
Then it was time to test fit the substantial beech engine bearers and to my dismay I found that the rear cabane wires were in the way because of the alternate location I had come up with :banghead:
There was no way I wanted to play around with the bearers.
Thoughts ranged from ordering a new set of wires, or making them up from windshield wiper inserts. So frustrated was I that I just left everything and got busy with other things non modelling.

Late at night yesterday while trying to sleep, suddenly it struck me like a bolt from the blue. Why was the obvious and simple not obvious to me? Why did I adopt the difficult route when the objective could have been met with a simple solution? Got up from bed and went straight to work table, one wire was fixed before I went to sleep peacefully and I am sure wife now convinced that what ever little sanity was left had eluded me for sure

Wait for some pictures and it would be clear what I am saying.
With this solution the wires were attached to the original locations (as indicated at the kit) and all was hunky dory :hatsoff: 
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rcpilotacro

Quote from: flyingboxcar on November 14, 2011, 12:26:59 AM
.. I am sure wife now convinced that what ever little sanity was left had eluded me for sure

For sure, mine thinks the same way, last night she heard some commotion and came with a stick and torch, saw me trying to start the JBA on the giles reaction was "Paagal ho gaya hai"

PS
I am contemplating this kit, but after you maiden
Gusty's Hangar and Introduction.

A Good pilot will practice until he gets it right,
A Great pilot will practice until he can't get it wrong.

flyingboxcar

Gusty,
Just go ahead and buy the Tiger if you are contemplating it. There is nothing to go wrong and it is sure to fly beautifully
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rcpilotacro

Gusty's Hangar and Introduction.

A Good pilot will practice until he gets it right,
A Great pilot will practice until he can't get it wrong.

flyingboxcar

Never added up all the expenses, but my guess is that in the air it would be very near to 80-90 K Indian (considering all the expenses) except the time and labour
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flyingboxcar

Here are the pictures of the aerofoil wire which gave me enough headaches till I figured out how simple it was to size it to required length (within a limit )
If you see the ends are rolled threads and the length of the threads is considerable. The solution was as simple as shortening the threads on both ends so that the wires would fit at the required position and take up all the slack
The best thing about these wires are that the threads are handed i.e left and right hand threads on opposite ends, so when you either open or close the wires by turning them it opens or closes at both ends. Makes life easy   
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flyingboxcar

To the question of cost a quick total and conversion of all the packages from Falcon takes you close to 70 K Indian (with a modest postal charges included) but not including customs which could be around 14% of FOB price. Then the engine Laser is around 295 Pound sterling (around 22-23 K Indian). Therefore on a revised estimate the completed airframe and engine together would be around 100 K +
Gosh I never imagined it would cost so much, I could have two 50 cc ARF's in the air with this much
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RcBazaar

@flyingboxcar... for what ever worth it may be i think its a fantastic build you are doing.. keep up the good work and hope to see vids soon...

sujju

flyingboxcar

Suggestions on the final livery for the Tiggie are most welcome.
Few things which you should consider while suggesting.
1. Actual scheme on a full size, for which plenty of pictures should be available in public domain.
2. Simple to paint
3. No a scheme in blue or combination of blue colour

 
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AEROVISHWA

here are some schemes..!
Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines.
-Enzo Ferrari

https://sites.google.com/site/vishveshkakkeri93/
HAPPY LANDINGS

AEROVISHWA

some more
Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines.
-Enzo Ferrari

https://sites.google.com/site/vishveshkakkeri93/
HAPPY LANDINGS

AEROVISHWA

last but not the least.....!!!

select any one and will search and email you plenty of pics..!!
Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines.
-Enzo Ferrari

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HAPPY LANDINGS

doncoe

These pix may help you, Manish, when it comes to the luggage locker. These are of my model 'PK and the whole shebang is dummy. The toggle catches are from lithoplate, the top hinge line is ali tube filed in half and the rivets just below are  - rivets!

I've also attached a pic of the full size A/C luggage locker for reference.

There's also one of the tailplane strut attachment fittings. The version I show here is closer to scale than that on the Falcon plans. I'll post Chris's version of the lower attachment for comparison later.

(Incidently - I used aerofoil section aluminium tube for the struts. The ends are flattened and filed to shape).

Kind regards.
Don
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CT4

Sadly VH-ASC has been repainted Red with black cross pattee and flew for a while with the Red Baron joy flights out of Bankstown aerodrome Sydney NSW Australia. Here is a link http://www.edcoatescollection.com/ac1/austa2/VH-ASC3.html

flyingboxcar

I was wondering about how do I go about making the luggage hatch catches for my model. But then I think, if you pray hard God does listen.
I did get an early Christmas gift
Have a look at the picture below and compare it with the picture of the original at the post #115 (look at 3rd picture)
Now to give credit where it is due. These are made by Don. Aren't they fantastic??

Thanks a ton Don for the catches, and the U/c fittings
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flyingboxcar

The tailplane fixing is more or less done. As said earlier I had to relocate the hole on the fuse seat so that all would align. I filled in the original hole with a suitable dia dowel, and re-drilled  fitting in the blind nut.
You can clearly see the original hole location at the attached picture.
The first pic shows the tailplane seats on the fuse
The second one with relocated hole for blind nut/T nut
Tailplane and rudder coming together at leading edge with a 5mm nylon bolt
Next two tailskid metal fittings, the tube will house a piano wire skid
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flyingboxcar

Here are the next two
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flyingboxcar

More or less firmed up the colour scheme as well.
I would be copying G-ANFM
It is not a complicated scheme where lot of masking etc would be required. Does not have the anti spin strakes, and has a metal finish cowl which does open up some possibilities
Have a look here  http://www.flickr.com/photos/39860650@N02/4805208412/lightbox/
or just search for G-ANFM
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flyingboxcar

Got some more done.
Engine bearers mounted, so was the engine plate,
Then the side frames for cowl was glued in and so was the front former. An identical former gets glued in the front cowl piece and whole is bolted together to retain the assembly.
And most importantly the engine was mated to the airframe for first time to check and also plan throttle servo installation
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doncoe

Happy New Year to you & yours, Manish.
My wife Heather, bought this kit for my eightieth birthday (yesterday) and I've spent all morning building it!  :thumbsup:


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ujjwaana

Don/Manish! you are the Devils of Detail! Such craftsmanship and building is beyond the imagination of most average builder like me, and often serve as inspiration.
For a junkie like me,  the most inspiring shot is that of the Firewall/Engine fitting! Clean, innovative. I have been long thinking of using Glass Epoxy sheet (used in PCBs) at limited places for reinforcement, like Landing gear, wing mount/dowels. Your build pic gives me much of confidence.

Keep up the good work. 
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flyingboxcar

Happy Birthday Don!
And that was a sweet gesture on part of your lady. Looks fantastic.
And a very happy new year to you and all fellow aero-modellers in UK. Wish you many more models and safe landings in 2012
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