Build log 1/4 Scale Tiger Moth from kit

Started by flyingboxcar, June 17, 2011, 12:19:49 PM

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flyingboxcar

The rudder cables
1. Clevis towards the tiller bar along with the turnbuckles
2. Another shot of the turnbuckles
2. The guide block is made of G10 material and bolted in place the picture also shows the cable spacers. The spacers were made out of 4 mm ali tube annealed flattened and then crimped with finger and nail pressure in place. These ensure that the wires remain at a preset distance and do not chafe against each other
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flyingboxcar

And here is a picture of the completed ASI along with one from full scale for comparison.
Once fixed on to the front left strut the spring indicator will be bolted on to the scale (currently it is not as could be seen)
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K K Iyer

@flyingboxcar,
Unbelievable workmanship and attention to detail.

Assuming VNE of 160mph for the full size, and say 60 for the model, I think that you may even go so far as to calbrate the spring to read 160 when actually doing 60...

Regards

P.S. I'm back. You can PM me the a/c details now.

flyingboxcar

Can not do that 😊
The scale reads max 120 Mph
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flyingboxcar

Stand by for some more pictures soon, the fuselage finally has clothing, and all the peri tapes are done, on with all the outer embellishments now and also applying primer to all the wooden surfaces that do not get covered.
Mind you no glamour shots, just plain old plodding along towards completion. The paint masks for all the registration lettering  and other are winging their way across Atlantic from Callie Graphics.
After lot of deliberations have decided to experiment with water based enamel paint for the painting. Will buy smallest quantity available and see how it goes.

Asian paints has water based enamel . https://www.asianpaints.com/product/royale.royale-luxury-enamel.html
Any one here with any experience on this paint? Don't really want to use any oil based paint as I will be spraying indoor without a proper paint booth.
Maybe I will have to do a top coat of water based PU clear to fuel proof the enamel.
Any help or pointers on         
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sanjayrai55

Could always buy a couple of small bottles of Fevicryl acrylic paint from any stationery shop. It's water-soluble water-base, and when dry is waterproof and fuelproof. Can be brushed on, and probably airbrushed too (haven't tried airbrushing so can't confirm)

flyingboxcar

Thanks Sanjay, will see if I get the Fevicryl in the silver I am looking for.
I wanted to use Humbrol enamels but no retailer would ship from overseas and the Indian distribution is handled by Funskool, did not bother to respond to my email or repeated phone calls. Typical Indian way of things.
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sanjayrai55

Can try Tamiya/Italeri from Hobby King instead of Humbrol

https://hobbyking.com/en_us/fun-cool-stuff-1/plastic-model-kits/glue-paint-finishing.html?p=1

But Fevicryl ought to give you satisfactory results

flyingboxcar

Went and bought some Liquitex silver acrylic and there is just one word for it. "Useless" I also had got some Vallejo Premium silver from Hobby king but it is same shade as Liquitex silver that is dirty white-ish which may glint silver if you squint and imagine it to be silver. Also went out and bought some water based enamel from Asian Paints. The shades of (close to) silver and aluminum that looked close to the sample of silver solartex when comparing to shade card/fan deck turned to be totally disastrous when applied and dried . So this option is also out.
I had bought some samples from http://www.migjimenez.com/en/acrylic-colors/563-silver-.html
The silver shade has by far been beautiful. Down side being that I would need at-least 30 bottles since these come in 17ml bottles   
These are water based and once coated with water based PU should withstand glow fuel.

I did not find silver in Italeri. Tamiya paints being in 10ml pots were again a no go.

Now for the flying surfaces silver I have to decide between
Either I go with solvent based silver or order some 30 odd bottles from MiG the water based acrylics which have given beautiful results
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michaely

I just came across your build...... great thread with lots of pictures; thanks for the posting effort.

Perhaps because around 1500 of the Tiger Moths were built in Canada between 1936 and 1942, with some still flying and in museums, it is a still a favorite scale model build in Canada.  At least two Canadian quarter scale kits were made, one by Bud Barkley and one by John Clark (Clark Industries), neither of which are currently available.
I have the Barkley kit and several years ago visited John Clark's shop, just about 20 kilometres down the road from me, and picked up some accessories such as a canopy kit (smiley: Canadian winters), some stainless steel parts and latex paint in wartime colours.  If my memory is correct I believe John said he sold between a hundred and two hundred of his Tiger Moth kits over the years. He said he believed his quarter scale Moth flew best at 21 or 22 pounds.

btw, one excellent book on the Tiger Moth, with lots of colour detail pictures is the Haynes "owner's workshop manual" titled De Havilland Tiger Moth by Stephen Slater.  (It's not really a shop manual for the full size plane.) It's in paperback and the price a couple of years ago, from Amazon, was only about $15 Canadian.

Michael in Ontario, Canada

Spike RC

Quote from: flyingboxcar on September 21, 2017, 05:25:08 PM
And here is a picture of the completed ASI along with one from full scale for comparison.
Once fixed on to the front left strut the spring indicator will be bolted on to the scale (currently it is not as could be seen)
[Great following your building post here in the UK. Question on the airspeed indicator you made, which is really good. How did you do the lettering. I have got to that bit with mine.... and now left scratching my head.]

flyingboxcar

Hello Spike
What kit or make of Tiger you are building?
To answer your question, the lettering on the scale was done with some help from Don in UK. The full scale picture of the ASI was resized, printed out and the scale cut and pasted on the 1/4 scale fittings.
If you PM me your email I will send you the file that was used to print
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sanjayrai55

Quote from: flyingboxcar on October 03, 2017, 06:14:21 PM
Went and bought some Liquitex silver acrylic and there is just one word for it. "Useless" I also had got some Vallejo Premium silver from Hobby king but it is same shade as Liquitex silver that is dirty white-ish which may glint silver if you squint and imagine it to be silver.
Either I go with solvent based silver or order some 30 odd bottles from MiG the water based acrylics which have given beautiful results


I don't know if this will work for you, but about 1987 I painted my caddy box with Silver Acrylic Auto Paint. https://s25.postimg.org/v35p3mjnj/Caddy_2.jpg

Worked well, highly fuel resistant, and lasted forever

flyingboxcar

Sanjay can you tell me about the paint? Brand etc?
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sanjayrai55

It was Asian Paints Acrylic Auto Refinish. Does not use ordinary thinner - there is a special thinner used also fromAsian

flyingboxcar

Ok I think you may not have used Acrylic but PU or Alkyd. Acrylic will be water thinnable  unless it is PolyAcrylic.
I think when I restart the work I will to settle for PU
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sanjayrai55

No. It was Acrylic for sure! Don't forget, this was late '80s

sanjayrai55

Any case, lots of silver colored cars around. You can get PU, Acrylic.... in Silver and use

Spike RC

Hi flyingboxcar
Thanks for the response to my Decal question.
I am building the Traplet !/$ Scale Tiger Moth kit, and compared to yours its very "basic", but it does then give you the choice of building it very scale like or turning into a fun fly.
I have 2 photos attached (hopefully)
First one is in autocad to 1/4 scale size
second one is the ali bits thus far


flyingboxcar

Traplet or Sarik now is Duncan Hutson design and very scale. The best in scale fidelity was the Classic scale 1/3 scale.
Your ASI is looking good. A bit of paint and the printed scale once added will bring it to life
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Spike RC

Thanks for that, but hence my question, how and where did you get the printing done, your looks fabulous

flyingboxcar

Printed the scale on a office printer and gave it a coat or two of acrylic varnish of the type that did not smudge the print
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Spike RC

Just finished the dry assembly run before painting

flyingboxcar

That looks lovely. Go on with rest of the build now. Do you have a thread going about your build somewhere?
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Spike RC

Not yet, but you certainly have given me the idea to do a log as it keeps a track of things.... progress with my build has been slow as i started getting very poor eye sight and it wasnt fun anymore. Eyesight now alot better so getting insperation from your build log has really helped. Many thanks and i hope to see more of your interesting posts here