Quote from: rajathv8 on July 27, 2010, 11:01:02 PM
VC what's the fly and charge time?

60 mins charge and 7 -10  mins flight. Approximately.

I opened the front & found that the battery cannot be moved forward since the wire is limited & will make it impossible to connect it to charger so as of now I have stuck the 2 coins inside the cover below the battery will try a test flight in the morning & report back the results.

All the best!

1st test flight this morning & counter balance works perfectly & back / forward trim is now within control, so now I only need to test the right side lift off which I guess I need a counter weight on left side to balance it but before I do this I need to test outdoors to be sure.

Another thing I have noticed that my charging time now is 2 hrs seems that frequent charge discharge of the battery is required to get the best output, so not much to be concerned about the charger as of now, its perfectly fine.

Even if i get extra batteries its a bit of pain to change it by unscrewing the 4 points opening the front then redo it, this might dis balance the trim so its not worth it, I can only buy the next battery when this one runs out completely.

Those who have been using lipo battery can you tell me how long have u been using it , how many charges can it take whats the life cycle of lipo?

Firstly check whether it has a LiPo or not. Most probably it will be a Li Ion battery pack.

Sorry my mistake
its indeed 7.4v Li-ion 1300mAH battery mentioned on the box but many website selling this heli say it uses lipo battery
http://www.xheli.com/9053-volitationheli.html
http://www.toptoyexpress.com/double-horse-9053-volitation-3-channel-metal-helicopter-w-gyro.html

here is the company website but they don't mention the type of the battery fitted.
http://www.dh-toys.com/Eng/ShowProduct.asp?id=59#

@ranjan. Thats bad. So guess you have to make do with the coins. I tried taping a small bolt to the tail and it works wonders. Hovers very well now. The batteries ned a few charge and discharge cycles to give its best. Hope the weather calms down soon.

Your & mine case are opposite since yours is front heavy so a little bit of weight at back will correct where as mine is tail heavy hence required 2 coins but now all is well at least I can hover properly.

Yup, now both are fixed. I should try moving the battery, but i dont have the right screwdriver to remove the tiny screws.

I finally took outdoor for testing while air was slow  it hovered perfectly but the right take off still exist, in fact outdoors it toppled to right while taking off so I need a counter weight on left side....................or is there a  way to balance this with trim I guess not.

Then came a gush of wind from nowhere & my God I was frightened like hell as the heli was 20 feet up it just got swayed away 30-40 feet to its right before I could safely land it without crashing.

Need much more experience to handle such sudden wind.

I dont thing its designed to handle anything more than a light breeze Ranjan. And i doubt you can fix that with trim adjustment.
Do the blades have and dent or something? did you crash earlier? I kinda doubt its because of imbalance. The distance of the body to the right and left from center of gravity is less, so to produce such a drastic movement the difference in weight should be large (i mean more than two coins).
Lets see what VC has to say about this.

Yes now I have got a minor dent on the blade today when it toppled outdoors while take off. Even earlier when no dent it was taking off to right so i just did a test flight indoors just now by using a nut to counter balance & that has now solved the right take off problem completely.

I think it toppled outdoors more due to little breeze as it was already needing a balance to left.

Since their are now 2 counter balance (left & front) I need to fine tune both a bit & again testing outdoors. One thing I have noticed is that the trim which works indoors do not work same outdoors since the wind conditions are different. Can anyone of you confirm that? 

1. "outdoors it toppled to right while taking off so I need a counter weight on left side....................or is there a  way to balance this with trim I guess not."

2. "I dont thing its designed to handle anything more than a light breeze Ranjan."

1. I had the same problem. I then learnt that if we try to be too careful and apply throttle gently, it WILL topple over. You HAVE to give it a good burst to raise it to a 6 feet height or more - then the game begins. I don't think counter balancing weights are required here.

2. Bang on! It is suicidal to try and fly this baby in strong winds. Don't try it - you will wreck the model.

Can you post pics of the coin and nut addition. It may help others with similar problems.

Thanks VC,
I am indeed trying gentle lift off but your point is understood so I will try once again outdoors with your method & report back. What I want to confirm from you is that if outdoors i lift off say 8-10 feet & hover will I get a balanced heli where I can then adjust the trim & ensure that the tail remain pointed to me as I move forward as of now it was hovering but kept on moving here & there due to off balance I guess.

Yes I guess you would achieve that if you constantly keep your right hand busy on the adjuster. Once you have trimmed the tail rotation and brought it under control, you will have to apply right stick movement to compensate the Heli behaviour. Once trimmed, DON'T TOUCH THE TRIMMER unless absolutely necessary!

Keep in mind the caution that these CoAx helis are really meant for indoor stadium flying and are not at all wind friendly.

Final thoughts - I think you need to take off all the weights that you have put on and fly her just the way she was meant to be. Choose an indoor stadium or a perfectly still day and you will be amazed. Atleast, I was!

All the best, land safely!

For howmuch you bought this heli?

I bought it for 2250/-,
however the prices keep changing due to dollar rates.

Quote from: VC on July 28, 2010, 09:59:03 PM
1. "outdoors it toppled to right while taking off so I need a counter weight on left side....................or is there a  way to balance this with trim I guess not."

2. "I dont thing its designed to handle anything more than a light breeze Ranjan."

1. I had the same problem. I then learnt that if we try to be too careful and apply throttle gently, it WILL topple over. You HAVE to give it a good burst to raise it to a 6 feet height or more - then the game begins. I don't think counter balancing weights are required here.

2. Bang on! It is suicidal to try and fly this baby in strong winds. Don't try it - you will wreck the model.

This made so much sense! Thanks without this I was struggling to even get this off the ground for the last 2 days...

Folks, I am Naveed from Hyderabad and I am new to this arena, so please pardon me for my mistakes if any

I got myself a brand new Double Horse 9053 Volitation Helicopter for 2600 INR Got it from Toyhouse Chennai shipped to my place.

So here is goes, I am unable to find the instruction manual for flying this helicopter. I read somewhere that even if there was any, it was just a plain translation from Chinese to English and it did not make any sense to anyone but still I don't even have that. So I was just hoping if someone who has the instruction manual can send me a scanned copy so that I can keep it for myself This way I can atleast say that I read the instruction manual before flying the copter!! . My other Questions will be on the way once I start flying the helicopter outdoor soon.

By the way this is my second Heli. My first heli was also from double horse, it was 9051A and it was just awesome!! But I wrecked it b'coz of my inexperience and then I got this one a few days back

Guys please someone send me the instruction manual for this Heli The worst thing is that I know nothing about the controls on the transmitter They are sooo many!!

Regards,
Naveed
Hyderabad

Shouldnt be s prob without a manual. One is to mov the heli up or down, one to turn it about its axis and one to mov it back and forth. One trim for each maybe. What other controls are you refering to?

Does anyone have a manual for this Heli by the way?

I have the manual but its not much of help it mostly describes the radio controls & how to connect the battery for charging plus few dos & donts, if you still need then I can scan it but I am out for 2 days so you will have to wait.

As a complete newbie to RC it helped me but those who are in RC hobby would already know what radio controls do.
I now mostly do SIM flying practice as i hardly get time to go out physically with the heli, when I have time its windy or bad light so SIM works fine as of now.

Let me know.

Hi can someone please send me the scan of the manual?

PM your mail id. I will send what i have. It wont be the 100% compatable with yours but should be of some use atleast.