Main Menu

avionic x5 cyclic problem

Started by dineashkumar, June 12, 2013, 11:50:35 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

dineashkumar

Hi,
i have a avionic x5, hiller 450 sport and savox sh063 for cyclics.
when setting it up,
swash is levelled at zero pitch and negative pitch.

but in full positive the swash is not level.
there is no setting to adjust the endpoints in the fbl controller?


help please
Taranis | RD-210 | Dominator SE

saikat

in flight you will never have the heli in max pitch position (if you are
a beginner) so do not worry about it too much.

Just do a short hover test

dineashkumar

thank you,

this is my first heli build and i want know to know what is causing this problem and how to fix it.

the problem due to the mechanical setup or servos or fbl controller?
:)
Taranis | RD-210 | Dominator SE

saikat

Is the length of travel from mid to low and mid to high same ?

dineashkumar

sorry, i didnt get u?
which length?
Taranis | RD-210 | Dominator SE

raja_mastana

#5
Quotethis is my first heli build and i want know to know what is causing this problem and how to fix it.
Even though all three servos are same make/model, still they travel slightly different. In FB models, we used EPA to correct this issue. In my FBl controller (Robird, G31), there is an option to adjust pitch to aileron, elevator servo at the two extreme positions.

If your FBl unit does not have this option, then I am not sure how to fix it. One tip can be to get the arms at 90 degrees at center position with minimal subtrims (i.e. try a different servo arm if the existing ones are not working)
ALIGN 450 PRO DFC 6S Belt Driven | Polaris BEC | Nano-Tech 6S 1300mAH | Robird G31 | 325D Pro | TGY-306G HV | KST 515MG | K-Force 40A | NTM Rotor Drive 1700kv

Multiplex Easy Star 2 | Multiplex Mentor | Nissan 350Z Endless Tamiya TT-01D

Shannon

hi are u sure ur swash is level please check it properly this will mostly happn due to unlevel swash plate ....start with this make sure all the linkage rod lengths from servo to swash are as per the helicopter manual they have to be exact after this ..in avionicx5 subtrim menu make sure all the servos are exactly 90 even if its slightly off u will get different throws in the end ......be calm do this step by step as told n problem will be solved  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: ...i use the same and i dont have any problem with it
Wings are for wimps  :)-Mikado Logo/"OXY3  "/Scorpion Motors/Savox/JR PROPO/Spinblades/EDGE BLADES/KDE Direct/YEP/YGE/RJX/ GENS ACE Bavarian Demon-

dineashkumar

thank you

but i am getting 90 at mid stick with very minimal subtrim,
only problem is at full positive the elevator is not level.
and there is no option in the fbl controller for changing this?
i use Savox sh063 for cyclic.
Taranis | RD-210 | Dominator SE

Shannon

check ur linkage rod lenght from servo to swash plate
Wings are for wimps  :)-Mikado Logo/"OXY3  "/Scorpion Motors/Savox/JR PROPO/Spinblades/EDGE BLADES/KDE Direct/YEP/YGE/RJX/ GENS ACE Bavarian Demon-

Shannon

ok do one thing do u have a swash leveling tool since ur a beginner it might be lil difficult to get it directly ....are these the measurements ur getting between the end of the plastic links elevator 17mm,aileron 10mm,pitch 21.5mm ????????????????
Wings are for wimps  :)-Mikado Logo/"OXY3  "/Scorpion Motors/Savox/JR PROPO/Spinblades/EDGE BLADES/KDE Direct/YEP/YGE/RJX/ GENS ACE Bavarian Demon-

dineashkumar

thank you

yes i have a swash level tool.

i will check the length and tell u.
but i think the length is as per the FB manual.
Taranis | RD-210 | Dominator SE

dineashkumar

Quote from: Shannon on June 12, 2013, 03:40:33 PM
ok do one thing do u have a swash leveling tool since ur a beginner it might be lil difficult to get it directly ....are these the measurements ur getting between the end of the plastic links elevator 17mm,aileron 10mm,pitch 21.5mm ????????????????

do these lengths are same for pro, sport and v2?
Taranis | RD-210 | Dominator SE

Shannon

no i gues for sport and v2 it might be same for pro it is different as all servos are mounted at one level seperate distance is not required ...those measurements are for the sport only please measure all to exact length 
Wings are for wimps  :)-Mikado Logo/"OXY3  "/Scorpion Motors/Savox/JR PROPO/Spinblades/EDGE BLADES/KDE Direct/YEP/YGE/RJX/ GENS ACE Bavarian Demon-

dineashkumar

okay sure i will check and tell u.
may i know where u got those lengths?
if from the manual can u send me the link or something.

thank you
Taranis | RD-210 | Dominator SE

Shannon

Wings are for wimps  :)-Mikado Logo/"OXY3  "/Scorpion Motors/Savox/JR PROPO/Spinblades/EDGE BLADES/KDE Direct/YEP/YGE/RJX/ GENS ACE Bavarian Demon-

dineashkumar

Taranis | RD-210 | Dominator SE

dineashkumar

hi,
i checked the lengths and it was little off, now i changed according to the manual.
and at setting h in avionic x5, all the servos are at 90 with the lengths in manual but now swash is not level totally wrong.
:banghead:
Taranis | RD-210 | Dominator SE

Shannon

it cannot be possible u are doing something wrong please post pics with the throttle stick in middle showing swash and all three servos one by one
Wings are for wimps  :)-Mikado Logo/"OXY3  "/Scorpion Motors/Savox/JR PROPO/Spinblades/EDGE BLADES/KDE Direct/YEP/YGE/RJX/ GENS ACE Bavarian Demon-

dineashkumar

hi check the pictures
Taranis | RD-210 | Dominator SE

dineashkumar

pictures
Taranis | RD-210 | Dominator SE

dineashkumar

these pic are taken in step H in avionic x5.
where the servos are centered and servo horns are at 90.
:banghead:
Taranis | RD-210 | Dominator SE

Shannon

u know all ur servos are perfect and front to rods are of perfect length so now in these situations its time to improvise so ur elevator linkage shorten it till u get the swash level ....do the same for aileron and pitch if needed
Wings are for wimps  :)-Mikado Logo/"OXY3  "/Scorpion Motors/Savox/JR PROPO/Spinblades/EDGE BLADES/KDE Direct/YEP/YGE/RJX/ GENS ACE Bavarian Demon-

saikat

 your servo arms don't look centered

when you took the shot what was  your tx throttle stick position ? 50 % ?

dineashkumar

okay thank you,
i will do that but whats the problem ?
everything is according to the manual but y its not level?

mechanical error cant cause this much difference right?

:headscratch:
Taranis | RD-210 | Dominator SE

Shannon

saikat the frame of the sport is weird it places the front two servos at an angle so the servo arms seem to be not aligned at 90
Wings are for wimps  :)-Mikado Logo/"OXY3  "/Scorpion Motors/Savox/JR PROPO/Spinblades/EDGE BLADES/KDE Direct/YEP/YGE/RJX/ GENS ACE Bavarian Demon-