Quadcopter tending to drift and pitch... problem motor or esc or gain settings.

Started by Abhishek Goudar, April 27, 2013, 07:53:31 PM

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Rahulvyas

-2814 700kv Carbon Fiber 685mm Quadcopter ( tuning PIDs)
-Scratch build Hexacopter ( selling the parts) { almost sold}
-9xR - The best RADIO
-ST360quad (sold)
-kk2 (sold)

Student

Abhishek Goudar


Rahulvyas

http://rctimer.com/index.php?gOo=goods_details.dwt&goodsid=858&productname= with 10x4.7" props and 3S
or
http://rctimer.com/index.php?gOo=goods_details.dwt&goodsid=847&productname= with 11x5.5" props and 3S.

Better than the aerodrive one. The above motors are built for mulitrotor purposes only! and rctimer is a good website
-2814 700kv Carbon Fiber 685mm Quadcopter ( tuning PIDs)
-Scratch build Hexacopter ( selling the parts) { almost sold}
-9xR - The best RADIO
-ST360quad (sold)
-kk2 (sold)

Student

Abhishek Goudar

@veloci. Thank you for the tip :-) :-) i  have made the amendments :-)

Abhishek Goudar

Everyone, is it necessary to have GPS and auto pilot for altitude hold. ? Or are there other means to achieve greater stability and hovering :-)

pravesh736

with reference to greater stability, cheapest solution is u need rapid escs = simonk flashed escs, flash your escs . then u can run at double the gains settings from before which will make your quad super stable given that everything else is working properly.

edit- gps is overrated(not saying its not important). look for all the little places that can help u improve stability.

video attached as example why u need simonk.(not my video, but thank you maker of it) .

Rahulvyas

No, GPS is not necessary for Altitude hold. GPS is required for position hold.
GPS will make it more stable.
-2814 700kv Carbon Fiber 685mm Quadcopter ( tuning PIDs)
-Scratch build Hexacopter ( selling the parts) { almost sold}
-9xR - The best RADIO
-ST360quad (sold)
-kk2 (sold)

Student

Abhishek Goudar

@pravesh: thank you for the info :-) :-) pardon me i am a noob. But with reference to flashin, ill need a programming card, what significance does the simonk have here. ?

@Rahulvyas: as always lightening fast :-) wouldnt absence of position hold cause a drift sideways. ? :-)

pravesh736

u dont need programming card, you should search the internet a little more if u dont want to stay a noob forever, everything is there to learn from. now spoon feeding is not possible(at this age).  ;) google simonk flashing. all your answers are there. we are all nooobs. u want stabilty simonk has given u option, it makes your escs run at above 450hz. and u can pump up your gains settings, try running your quad with high gains on stock esc and watch it wobble to death.  ;D

edits. quads etc will always drift, its a part of rc to control it. air turbulence, wind etc etc, gps counters all this and keeps quad in one place. but that is positoin hold not stability

edit-ps. u need barometer for altitude hold.

Rahulvyas

I wish I could flash my plush 25As, but its too difficult for Plush to be flashed.

altitude hold means, holding in a certain level/ height. it dosnt mean position hold.
If you add position hold feature(GPS) it will be more stable.

For that you need a FC which supports GPS. I ordered Arduflyer. :)
-2814 700kv Carbon Fiber 685mm Quadcopter ( tuning PIDs)
-Scratch build Hexacopter ( selling the parts) { almost sold}
-9xR - The best RADIO
-ST360quad (sold)
-kk2 (sold)

Student

joseph lr


Abhishek Goudar

@ pravesh. Thank you for the info :-) i will do good to stick to it :-)
@ Rahulvyas. Thank you again.  :-)

gaurav_sharma132

Seems like old thread, but I post it anyways :) I been experiencing some drifting in my first quad ...

QuadCopter PID tuning process going on and observed pitch axis behaviour as goes: when I increase throttle (in small intervals) then quad bends little one side but then recovers and get itself level. And when I decrease throtttle (in small intervals) then it get bend other side, recovers and get level. Leveling process taking few secs. Also bending is proprotional to amount of throttle I apply in one time. But once level it respond well to radio sticks, have been fighting  this problem from quite some time :banghead: then I decided to go ahead and ask on forums and here I am.

(my ques: why it is taking time to level it and why quad bending with inc/dec throttle & how to correct)  ???


Thanks :hatsoff:

K K Iyer

CG not in the center?
If so, on opening throttle, the lighter side will accelerate faster, causing tilt, till corrected by self levelling action...

gaurav_sharma132

Center of Gravity? I think it is check some pics

Also self leveling action happening slow like in 5 sec or so