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QUADROTOR from Bharuch

Started by Dharmik, October 30, 2011, 02:08:28 PM

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dreamfly

Sure,  I am very excited.  I heard that there is'nt a big difference between the old and the new boards.  But Let's see.  Will post my findings soon.  I am building a Y6 now and might just pop in the new CC3D in it. 

dreamfly

BTW,  I decided to order 2 boards.  If anybody wants one let me know.  I can always get a buyer outside india... These boards are just toooooo good to be true with their software.  You have to fly one of them to get a feel of what I am talking.

Dharmik

Sir can you quote the price? Yes there's heavy rush to get this board first. You are one of the luckiest person to get hands on it.

dreamfly

Let me get it first. If I like it too much I might not even sell it.   ;D.  I must consider myself really Lucky.  But will surely post a review as soon as I fly it.  I have tuned my OP CC  so perfectly that Indoors I can virtually fly it hands free.  I'll post a video of it soon.  Right now I have dismantled my quad to make way for some extra fittings.

hyd_quads

Good news... is CCD3 based on arduino 2560? If yes, did you hear about MegaPirates NG?

dreamfly

CC3D is not based on the Arduino. Theirs is yet another group altogether.  But by the looks of the GCS they are related.  I can see that there are a numerous Open source groups out there all trying to better the other. We just have wait and watch and fly.

hyd_quads

I have been under the notion that it was largely similar to APM... And your description sounds good. Can't wait to see it in flight! ;D

dreamfly

In fact I want to try the "Naze"  please not the spelling "Naze"  not Naza.  May be we can swap our boards for a while just to compare.  interested?

dreamfly

here's the GCS for the OP

hyd_quads

Hmmm, I am keen about flying a *32-bit* board and see why the multirotor freaks around the world are crazy about it.
Thanks for the offer, we'll think about it after I fly it myself first. :) I'm nowhere near assembling the things.

dreamfly

OK.  I believe 32 bit or 16 has nothing to do with it.  Mikrokopter is a good example.  Their FC flew with I think 8 bit processor but just look at how steadily it flew.  It's all in the software.

dreamfly

check out my Y6 buiid.  Flew it once already.  Trying to modifying it now and add some extra fittings.

hyd_quads

I first thought it's all in the sensors and their precision mattered a lot. Then I thought the software itself made all the differnece, and some said it's all about the CPU.
Then naze has all three. :)
But what you say is right too. Are you sure MK is only 8-bit?

If not Naze32, my next choice was a ~$70 multiwii (CRIUS all-in-one pro) (8-bit again)
It was a good large board, stuffed with features and optional extensions (easy I2C GPS setup, optional OSD, etc..) It was ~$15 cheaper too. I like the naze but I'm hating the feeling that I made a mistake by buying the Naze.
I'm really confused here.

hyd_quads

Quote from: dreamfly on September 26, 2012, 03:25:44 PM
here's the GCS for the OP
What I love about it is the mission planner.

dreamfly

Well those are plans for the future releases.  Nothing works as of now.  This will probably take may be a year or so

dreamfly

Hey I said MK started off as an 8 bit. 8-bit isn't viable any more since the processor is subject to a lot of processing with the umpteen number of extra modules (GPS, baro, etc etc.) But for a simple stabilization only FC (gyro + accel) 8 bit should be sufficient  I used to follow their build from the very beginning somewhere in 2007 and I am sure they used only an 8 bit those days.

You know something.  The "NAZE" is a fantastic FC. and I feel it's more advanced than the OP. (Designed by a Japanese) The problem with these controllers are that if you get used to one then all others feel inferior. (The reason I sold my Naza) even though Naza flies out of the box. If you look very closely at the op and the "NAZE", they look very similar both in design and the components they use.  Please don't regret buying the Naze and 32 bit processing is all the more better for future software upgrades.

hyd_quads

Quote from: dreamfly on September 26, 2012, 04:03:15 PM
You know something.  The "NAZE" is a fantastic FC.
............................
Please don't regret buying the Naze

Thanks a lot for justifying that. :)

dreamfly

It's the Gospel Truth. Simple as that.  I just recieved my order from Time Cop today.  Flashed ESCs' as replacement for the once which fried 2 weeks ago.

hyd_quads

Oh, so you're dealing with timecop too. He's a nice guy to buy from.
btw, what makes you say the NazE is more advanced than OP?
And do you know if GPS can be hooked up to the NazE? I heard I2C GPS is not supported. But how do I connect a UART GPS, there are no pins on the board!

dreamfly

Yes I do interact with TC.  One day I asked him if he doesn't sleep and he said he doesn't.  Don't know if he was joking or serious.  He is a very knowledgable guy.  Infact you should ask him these questons on the GPS, and if it can be supported. 
BTW are you a developer? or just a avid quad lover like me?

I believe that anything can be done in electronics and if it can't then you make it happen if you know what you are doing.  You just hack it. 

dreamfly

And to answer your question here are the feature comparions.  Openpilot first and the Naze second. Compare them and you'll see why.

OpenPilot features

•Powerful STM32 32-bit microcontroller running at 90MIPs with 128KB Flash and 20KB RAM
•3-axis high-performance MEMs gyros and 3-axis high-performance MEMs accelerometer
•Tiny 36mmx36mm 4 layer PCB for superior electrical noise reduction and flight performance.
•Software support for Windows, Mac and LinuxDirect high speed USB support with no drivers required, a truly plug and play device.
•Spektrum satellite receiver support
•Futaba S-BUS hardware support
•Innovative Flexi-port technology for superior port flexibility
•16Mbits on-board EEPROM for configuration storage

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Naze features

•36x36mm
•6 grams (no headers, 8 grams with)
•2000 degrees/second 3-axis MEMS gyro + accelerometer (MPU6050)
•3-axis magnetometer (HMC5883L)
•Pressure sensor (MS5611)

•Flexible motor outputs, support various airframe types -
      Quad/Hexa/Tri/Bi/Y4/Y6/Octo/Camera Gimbal. (Default is Quad-X)

•Up to 8 ch RC input - supports standard receivers or CPPM receiver. RC breakout cable included

•Battery voltage monitoring
•Modern 32-bit processor running at 3.3V/72MHz.
•Onboard USB for setup and configuration
•LEDs so bright, they will blind you

•MultiWii-based configuration software for easy setup

Dharmik

Sir Y-6 pic shows just black background!!

dreamfly

let me post it again.  I have reduced the size.  hope it's visible

Dharmik

Sir just curious, any specific reason to build Y-6 instead of quad?

dreamfly

yes,
wheneven I fly with a camera onboard, I'll use the Y6, and I'll use the quad for fun flying.  I mentioned about a failed ECS in my earlier posts.  I was flying over a small pond and the ESC just fried mid-air.  Thankfully I wasn't flying very high.  The extra motors are adding quite some weight no doubt. Cant be used for fun flying at all, and the battery drains fast as well.  It looks and sounds really scary when it flies with all 6 blades ready to chop.  I had infact a small cut on my forearm when I did my first test flight.  Since there isn't a landing gear I launched her by hand and then one  of the lower propellers kissed my arm.  These props can draw blood quite easily.  If using the APC  props  safety First!!!!