TUTORIAL - How to build Multirotor from scratch

Started by Dharmik, June 25, 2012, 11:01:45 AM

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dreamfly

Thanks Mr.Ashta for inviting me over to your place.  Lets' try and chatch up this weekend if nothing else happens to come in our way.  I have saved your Mob no.  I'll call u.

Dharmik

@Ashta
Wonderful sir. In auto-level it flies really smooth. Are you using helmet cam?
@dreamfly
Never heard about Enthlapy sir
@hyd_quads
Which motor you are planning to use it? please don't forget to update us.

dreamfly

Dharmik,  Please upload some pic of your quad.  I would like to see the material we use in india for centerplates.  I want to use something very light and strong and below say 50 gms.

dreamfly

where can I purchase carbon fiber hollow tubes with motor mounts in india?  Going in seach of stuff when u don't even know what to ask in hardware shops in india is a real challenge.  The sellers dont even want to speak to you. >:(

Ashta

You can't be first because you do not know!

Ashta

carbon fibre rods tubes
http://www.rcdhamaka.com/index.php?main_page=index&zenid=1c3hq8bmjh4s383cqnsdsotdu1&cPath=56&sort=20a&filter_id=&alpha_filter_id=67

for centre plate
1. 1.2 mm glass epoxy sheest avaia;ble from PCB vendors
2. Poly carbonate roofing sheet
3. Light 3mm ply
You can't be first because you do not know!

dreamfly

Thanks Sir,  also liked your cap camera idea. 

hyd_quads

Quote from: Dharmik on July 06, 2012, 01:19:41 PM
@hyd_quads
Which motor you are planning to use it? please don't forget to update us.

I plan to use NTM propdrive 2826 315W motors (most probably 1000kv, else the 1350kv ones). Thanks.

dreamfly

Just Completed another round of flight.  videos posted




Dharmik

@dreamfly
Sir sorry for being late, i have posted my build log in DIY section. It was like roller coaster ride. I would like to ask you that how do you maintain orientation?

dreamfly

I just trust the board I guess.  But jokes apart, I guess I am in for a crash soon.  I just dont want it to happen on someone.  Dharmik, I think it's about practicing and tuning. That's what I do most of the time on the weekends.  I haven't flown a plane for if I had then orientation would be easy.  If you notice I too am learning how to actually fly like Mr.Ashta.  He is indeed a very good flyer.  I really still dont have the guts to do a nose inward flying.  That my next goal.

dreamfly

This might also help in orientation.  It actually helped me at night


hyd_quads

What do you all think about my new scratch-built frame? Built of aluminium two-channel pipes and a fiber central plate. Weighs just 270g. Didn't get any idea about the landing gear yet.
How vibe-resistant will it be? (I'm going to mount the motors using zip (cable) ties ).
Thanks,
Vineet

dreamfly

That looks sweet.  So the total frame weight is approx 300 gms + 350 gms (motors) + 160 gms (esc's) + 200 gms (lipo) = 1000 gms approx.  Not bad
Why are you mounting your motors with cable ties?  do you feel or heard it's better at reducing vibs?

dreamfly

Vineet, did you paint those aluminium pipes brown or they are sold that way?

hyd_quads

Thanks for the instant reply. :)
I didn't paint them. un-painted pipes were available, but I bought these so that the paint insulates and prevents any short-circuits. I am mounting using cable ties because the usual nut+bolts available at my local hardware store are heavy. (the slot/flat ones) These bolts contributed around 70g to my last quad. I'm looking for lighter ones, like the philips nuts and bolts sold by HK. I didn't like the idea of using cable ties, myself. BTW, I estimate it to be < 1000g.  Thanks,

Vineet

dreamfly

I use 3mm SS bolts and nuts.  The length can vary based on your fitments

dreamfly

for example the 3mm nut and bolt 5cm lenght I use weighs 4gms each

dreamfly

and hey I ddn't think of the insulation.  You see we have something to learn from each other all the time.  I need to start painting mine.  Thanks for that idea.

Dharmik

Yes every build says something.
@dreamfly
Sir that night flying is awesome. I agree FC plays important role. I have spent more than a month practicing on FMS and now i can hover my quad fine but honestly i can't fly like you and Ashta sir. Hmm.. I have something running in my mind but i am waiting for my KK2 board to arrive.
@Vineet bro
Man that frame is more than perfect! I can see your hardwork, no doubt about it. Your half work is allready done. I can guarantee this quad will fly like a dream. Yes painted arm adds beauty and safety. Now you will have to update us. I am really excited to see that thing flying. I have wrapped color paper on arms. 3 black 1 red.

dreamfly

Thanks Dharmik,  Which FC are you using?  Well I don't plan to do the night flying too often.  I think my eyesight aren't too good cause a couple of times I lost focus and my heart was in my hand. With quads you cant afford to do that.  The light breeze was also a deterrent. 

what's an FMS?

dreamfly

Oh I gues it stands for some Flight ***** Simulator.  Honestly I didn't use a simulator and broke a lot of props in the process.  Do you know where I can download a siumlator for free????

hyd_quads

Quote from: dreamfly on July 08, 2012, 11:43:28 AM
and hey I ddn't think of the insulation.  You see we have something to learn from each other all the time.  I need to start painting mine.  Thanks for that idea.
I didn't figure that out before I noticed sparks.  :rofl:


hyd_quads

You can get a free sim here: http://www.realflight.com/free-rf6-demo.html

I have that sim but I'm having a problem hooking up my Tx to that.
Plus, not all sims have a quadrotor. I heard the new Phoenix sim has a quad. I don't think it'll be free.
BTW, thanks for the suggestion about nuts and bolts. :hatsoff: Yours are pretty light...

Vineet

PS: I'm attaching a screenshot of Realflight 6 demo.

hyd_quads

Quote from: Dharmik on July 08, 2012, 12:34:57 PM
@Vineet bro
Man that frame is more than perfect! I can see your hardwork, no doubt about it. Your half work is allready done. I can guarantee this quad will fly like a dream. Yes painted arm adds beauty and safety. Now you will have to update us. I am really excited to see that thing flying. I have wrapped color paper on arms. 3 black 1 red.

Oh, thank you so much Dharmik bro. :)