And me or no one I know had problems for 2+ years on Futaba !

I know at least three  that have to the extent that one of them has completely stopped using his Futaba 2.4 G FASST and is considering  fixing an Assan in the same tx   .

I am happy at least the walk over is  no longer a possiblity  

I hope he never flies gassers !    At least have the ladies and kids stay a long way afar when he does ! 

And wait till Assan has about 1% of the number of Futaba radios in the world !  The real fun would begin then only ! (Just like Apple Macs are "immune" to viruses )

I don't know too much about 2.4, But corona has 4 different 2.4 systems which are mutually NON interchangable. so i wouldn't invest in their 2.4 system, though i would swear by the 72 synthesised. In fact i had pestered Mr. Sai to get me one in the early days.
Avijit

Quote from: anwar on September 11, 2009, 07:42:51 PM
I hope he never flies gassers !    At least have the ladies and kids stay a long way afar when he does ! 

With the Futaba FASST he did not have to get to even the gasser stage  a plain good old OS 46 High Wing trainer was good enough to achieve what you say   and for chan again it was a Funstar 40 with a ASP 52 engine  that did the job.

So I agree with the FASST getting to the crowd requires far less of an effort 

The difference is that it is guaranteed with Assan    See the video above !  With Futaba, it is just an unexplained event that has a remote possibility !

And again, let us have more than 5 people owning Assan around the world

Quote from: anwar on September 11, 2009, 08:24:54 PM
 With Futaba, it is just an unexplained event that has a remote possibility !

The reason is quite clear I know due to personal reasons you cannot admit it  so I will not push further lest it spoil a  good chance of having  a futaba family member on our forum.

BTW with the tempratures mentioned you could try to fry an egg I guess 

But I do accept that The likes of Futaba are finding Assan tooooo  hot to handle  considering that so many guys are using  assan as seen in the same thread  .

Any way Gassers and Turbines are not what 90 % of the modeler's fly hence quite a non issue for majority of us.

Just as I said  this might happen with Assan only in the case of Gassers but for Futaba you don't  even have to get to that stage  Glow is good enough  to loose control .

sai

Quote from: anwar on September 11, 2009, 08:24:54 PM

And again, let us have more than 5 people owning Assan around the world

There are more than 5 in India alone 

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=723343&page=272

This is page 272  of the above thread . I am sure you would find more than 5 

Anwar, why ask or argue which is better, let assan get into the world F3A,F3C, F2A etc.... and prove their worth. They don't still have a radio of their own with total software etc., The new assan radio to be launched is still atleast 9-12 months away from launch. It does not have digital trims, sliders, model match, etc...

Quote from: rcforall on September 11, 2009, 09:41:00 PM
There are more than 5 in India alone 

This is page 272  of the above thread . I am sure you would find more than 5 

Now you are really running out of arguments, picking on numbers meant to make a point. 

And if Assan has 5, Futaba has 20000 ?  When Assan gets to 1000, you will see that they would not necessarily have to wait a whole month to scare onlookers

And Assan needs Futaba to work !

Quote from: rcforall on September 11, 2009, 09:21:44 PM
But I do accept that The likes of Futaba are finding Assan tooooo  hot to handle  considering that so many guys are using  assan as seen in the same thread  .

Any way Gassers and Turbines are not what 90 % of the modeler's fly hence quite a non issue for majority of us.

The point is, until two days ago, everyone on the forum probably thought Assan has ZERO issues. Now we have one confirmed issue, reproducible 100% of the time !   As the radio gets used more and becomes more common, you will see what radios do in real life !    Like I said, no NIRVANA !


Seriously, I would like to see Assan really succeed using their own radios, AND/OR hope Futaba will reduce prices.  It has to be a win for the modeler.  In fact, if Assan forces Futaba to reduce prices, that is even better

Quote from: rcforall on September 11, 2009, 07:31:41 PM
Some fun to keep the match going till Saju gets back ( Night watch man duty )

I'm using ASSAN from almost two years ago and had no problem until yesterday in the field... This is my setup:

* TX X8F V2
* RX X8R ( this one ¿V1 o V2?)
* RCEXL CDI with SPE 40cc engine and NGK spark plug and NGK cap.
* Mini servo Hitec behind firewall near to CDI.
* Used ferrites near receiver in all servo cables.

I thought Chan had a problem with FASST within 1 month 

Sai

Never be a nightwatchman when the bowlers are fresh and the ball is new

By the way just for your knowledge assan introduced the TX X8F V2 only about a year back and they had alot of binding issues in their earlier production run. So if you claim you had it almost 2 years ago when they launched the V1 in august 2007. You must be heading their development team.


http://assan.cn/main/index-news-7-en.html

Your entire set up of the assan 2.4ghz is about year or less than that. Also you had mentioned earlier that you don't use 2.4ghz may be about couple of months back........

Rx -X8R is V2 if you are not aware. X8R was never made in V1.
Also how can you have a setup and don't know what you use

Howazzt that

Katty -

He is quoting from a webpage. It is about someone else's experience, who had no issues with Assan for two years and then he crashed. Sai did not mean he had Assan for 2 years.

Take it easy, and have fun

OK but still before he quotes someone else he should check facts, as this will mislead other people. And also he say i am using without referring to that its someone else quote.

One thing is clear in these threads, locally we use whatever we can buy and really don't have much for or against any specific product. As long as the stuff works its the best since we haven't seen anything or been able to get anything better. Possibly thats purely on account of non-easy availability of a variety of these products. So, we will end up quoting ppl who are more prolific in their buying and using capabilities. Thats inevitable, given the still infant nature of this hobby.

Quote from: rckatty on September 12, 2009, 08:24:27 AM
OK but still before he quotes someone else he should check facts, as this will mislead other people. And also he say i am using without referring to that its someone else quote.

Katty ,
Feels nice to know that you are watching every word I say or write that is what Assan has done to the world of 2.4 G as can be seen at RCG itself  .
Don't worry you are the other person with a 2.4G system without any major problem reported

Next time I will submit the post to you for approval prior to posting it here   

Anwar  I think you should elevate Katty's status on the forum to WATCHMAN in Chief.

the future is only for 2.4 ghz till some one comes up with a better idea. its always better to stick to proven radios like futaba or JR, etc. as far as asan i would think it is more for the experimenting type of modeller intrested in taking things apart and make it work better. with the way the world is going prices of radios are still on the higher side and hope fully there should be a sharp reduction in the days to come.

Major ,
Was just wondering  what would have been the situation  a couple of decades ago when Futaba and JR came on the scene similar I guess. .
Innovation is what drives progress and progress is directly proportional to risk taking .

HAS ANY ONE THOUGHT OF THIS :

THE ONLY THING THAT DOES NOT CHANGE  IS THE FACT THAT EVERYTHING CHANGES 

Sai

Quote from: anwar on September 11, 2009, 06:52:35 PM
Paging Mr. Saju... Please report to this thread immediately 

If you do not respond within 24 hours, Team Futaba will be given a walk-over and declared champions forever !   

Saju... say something dude...

Did you chicken out ?    Or are you not feeling well or something ? 

Guys,

Just received a 2.4GHz Dx6i. I had originally thought about going in for Futaba, but then the price of Dx6i Tx + Rx  @ USD170 was a bit too much to resist.. Looks impressive.....

Pankaj

At the 6 channel level, Spektrum 2.4 is a better choice than Futaba anyways. 

See this : http://www.rcindia.org/radios-and-receivers/is-this-a-good-radio-offer/

Quote from: anwar on September 13, 2009, 09:32:06 PM

Quote from: anwar on September 11, 2009, 06:52:35 PM
Paging Mr. Saju... Please report to this thread immediately 

If you do not respond within 24 hours, Team Futaba will be given a walk-over and declared champions forever !   

Saju... say something dude...

Did you chicken out ?    Or are you not feeling well or something ? 

Anwar

No I didn't chicken out... Had a few in-law health problems and pending work at home to be finished.

Well... Here I am back.. But the topic seems to be a bit on the stale side...
You crying out for your in-law Futaba and me going out against...
I think we should trade places... You fight against for a change and then me for Futaba .. what say?...

After all we are all human and change at some point is inevitable... Whats wrong in change of attitudes?... You see I have a young daughter too coming of age... I have to look out for her as well!!

Saju

Guys ,
I think a lot has been said and written on this thread , I think there is going to be nothing significant by way of contribution just trying to prolong this thread  except for some small irrelevant issues ( for majority of us ) like what Anwar has bought out that Assan Has interference  with CDI.
Actually it would have been convincing if the same guy had tested the Futaba , JR, Airtronics and other brands on the same set up who knows they may also be having the same problem under  similar test conditions  . The fact that Assan has interference  does not prove that others don't under same test conditions .I am more convinced of such a possibility as we ourselves noticed yesterday that the Fatshark  2.4 G was affected by Throttle variation ( ESC interference )  when flying with a 72 mhz JR system.

Further to be frank Anwar the only thing this sort of thread arguments will achieve is in inconseqential post count if that is what you are looking for.

What we seem to forget in this whole affair is that every system has pros and cons like the 72 mhz has the possibility of external as well as from other radio modelers , but we have learnt to live with it by having frequency checks etc .
Futaba, JR etc  have their set of pros and cons as well and I am sure the user of these learns to handle and live with them.

The fact that guys have actually used Assan to fly Gassers and  a thread of around 272 pages on RCG  itself shows the level of confidence aero modelers globally  enjoy in them .

Hence I would  think any more discussion on this topic is quite point less  as the title suggests this is a discussion on 2.4G in general and not related to any brand , this thread is not assan vs futaba .

Anwar thanks  for elevating  Assan  to  by comparing it  with Futaba it  shows its effectiveness that in such a short time it is being compared with Brands like Futaba it surely is an honor for Assan

Sai

I will make it clear again.  The only reason I passionately participated in this thread and elsewhere is when I felt that one brand (or sometimes one technology) is being maligned in the name of issues that does not affect the routine use of the system (which is the same concern you have now for Assan).  Again, the heat issue for Futaba is NOT a routine flight problem (assuming basic setup and care instructions are followed).  2.4G use in general is fine (even preferred), as long as one takes in account the need for good receiver battery power (well, it is the case for 72 also).

I have many PMs from members here for standing up and talking about a radio system they use in all environments daily, and have zero problems. I have PMs asking why are people so hostile towards 2.4, without any reason (like in the other forums). Finally, some people asked me to calm down; since the more I speak, people seem to bring up issues that are even more arcane ("corner cases", like in engineering design). 

We have to be fair to all brands in terms of routine use, and that is the "larger than life" point ! 

PS: The thread cannot be "inconsequential" only when I start digging the dirt on Assan !!!!   I hope you now realize how others felt when you were making "inconsequential" claims about 2.4Ghz in general, and Futaba in particular !!! 

QuoteWe have to be fair to all brands in terms of routine use, and that is the "larger than life" point ! 

Exactly. And, in that case, there is no need for Team Futaba - or for that matter, any other - to be declared champions.

All can - and do - co-exist. Best to leave it that way. Let significant experiences from all "camps" be reported in an objective manner without obvious aspersion/bias  and/or mud slinging.