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RC Equipments => Radios and Receivers => Topic started by: azhaguvel on June 01, 2011, 10:15:47 AM

Title: Goodness of RDS8000
Post by: azhaguvel on June 01, 2011, 10:15:47 AM
I now have this RDS8000 which was my dream radio when I started hobby. I want to know who and all have this radio and what do they think about it. Good side and it's bad sides.
Title: Re: Goodness of RDS8000
Post by: foamybuilder on June 01, 2011, 11:13:42 AM
Doesnt have telemetry  ???
Title: Re: Goodness of RDS8000
Post by: azhaguvel on June 01, 2011, 11:21:14 AM
Does the tx beeps when the reciever goes out of range just like frsky modules do?
Title: Re: Goodness of RDS8000
Post by: atul_pg on June 01, 2011, 11:43:00 AM
I believe it should, since rds has a fail safe option.

In between saurabh is helping me put in a frsky module in an turnigy 9x tx...

Anyone used a frsky module ?
Title: Re: Goodness of RDS8000
Post by: rohitgupta322 on June 01, 2011, 12:08:07 PM
I have an RDS8000. My first and only radio. 
The good side is that it is very easy to program, I was able to get through all basic programming and some of the advanced stuff without even consulting the manual.

Title: Re: Goodness of RDS8000
Post by: azhaguvel on June 01, 2011, 12:12:22 PM
Cool Rohit. Was expecting you :D. How about the range. And the manual say always keep the two antenna 90 deg to each other. Will I face reduce in range if I dont do that. Does the tx beeps if the rx goes out of range.
Title: Re: Goodness of RDS8000
Post by: rohitgupta322 on June 01, 2011, 12:49:30 PM
I always keep my rx antenna perpendicular to each other, so don't know how the range will change if I don't keep it that way  ;D

According to this : http://mikegoesflying.wordpress.com/2008/04/11/actual-faqs-for-rds8000-airtronics/ the range is over 4000 feet.

I really don't know the answer to the last question and would want to know that.
Title: Re: Goodness of RDS8000
Post by: praveen on June 01, 2011, 02:58:53 PM
this may help something
look at Airtronics 2.4Ghz para
Title: Re: Goodness of RDS8000
Post by: ujjwaana on June 01, 2011, 03:07:43 PM
Quote from: azhaguvel on June 01, 2011, 12:12:22 PM
Will I face reduce in range if I dont do that. Does the tx beeps if the rx goes out of range.
I know I would be bit harsh here , but it would be really silly to ask such a question, as no company would put such 'Telemetry' kind a feature as an 'Easter Egg' for people to discover, and not brag of such feature in BOLD.

In all regards, the current RDS8000 does not have ANY Telemetry feature. A classic requirement of such telemetry feature is having a 'Two-Way' communication between Tx and Rx.
AFAIK, only Hitech and FrSky readily have such telemetry feature in its 'commodity' models. Other OEM like JR, Sanwa, Futaba etc are in different phase of offering telemetry, but I suspect any 'economical' models like RDS8000, 7C, 9x etc would have them any sooner.
Title: Re: Goodness of RDS8000
Post by: azhaguvel on June 01, 2011, 04:21:33 PM
cool I learned two new words :D. AFAIK and brag.
Title: Re: Goodness of RDS8000
Post by: foamybuilder on June 01, 2011, 04:33:02 PM
 :)
Dx8 already has a telemetry feature.
But one thing I like about frsky is that firmware can easily be updated by usb and lots of google code readily available.
Not sure if others also have these capability.
Title: Re: Goodness of RDS8000
Post by: azhaguvel on June 01, 2011, 04:34:56 PM
Ok read praveen's docs

made me feel good: 'the Airtronic system appears to have been virtually problem-free at this stage' while the others are having these issue. Ya I have heard that they are lacking in the features. But what kind of features. Since I don't own any high end tx. I coundn't understand what is missing.
Title: Re: Goodness of RDS8000
Post by: ujjwaana on June 01, 2011, 04:49:18 PM
May in few Heli Functions and advanced Glider/Sailplane functions like multiple Flaps etc. You may ping RDS8000 owners  like Vinay to know more. But this Radio should serve you long enough before you feel  you have outgrown it.
Title: Re: Goodness of RDS8000
Post by: praveen on June 01, 2011, 04:51:02 PM
only problem is its not"Module Based" ,only you can use trainer port hacker board,installing inside the Tx! :banghead:
Title: Re: Goodness of RDS8000
Post by: azhaguvel on June 08, 2011, 07:07:03 PM
Does the RDS8000 supports the RSSI (Reciever signal strength indication) to be feed to OSD?
Title: Re: Goodness of RDS8000
Post by: foamybuilder on June 08, 2011, 07:12:18 PM
You can check the receiver diagram for an analog rssi out. If its not present  you can make a virtual rssi out by converting the lost packet indication to analog voltage by a rc filter.
Title: Re: Goodness of RDS8000
Post by: azhaguvel on June 08, 2011, 07:16:41 PM
Wow too much for an IT student :). Can you explain little basically or some docs or basics where I can refer these and understand.
Title: Re: Goodness of RDS8000
Post by: foamybuilder on June 08, 2011, 07:18:41 PM
google for rcexplorer. he has many setups for fpv one of which explains this.
Title: Re: Goodness of RDS8000
Post by: ujjwaana on June 08, 2011, 11:00:54 PM
Quote from: azhaguvel on June 08, 2011, 07:07:03 PM
Does the RDS8000 supports the RSSI (Reciever signal strength indication) to be feed to OSD?
Usually the OEM Radio manufacturers care a damn about providing a RSSI output (too many pins already!!)

You have to hack  you way in. A great thread on RSSI output pin of various Rx

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=923419

<Edit>
Another Nobel way to get RSSI from almost all 2.4G which has a RED led to show signal loss:
http://www.rcexplorer.se/page14/lostp/lostp.html
Title: Re: Goodness of RDS8000
Post by: aXedge on June 09, 2011, 12:21:32 PM
Hi all,

    Some time back, my Futaba 6EX went kaput. I tried getting it repaired, but it seems that IC has been damaged :-( (any help / suggestions here would be very very welcome  :hatsoff:).
    Since i needed to buy a new Radio, I was looking at the RDS8000 as well.
    Could you please let me know any pitfalls of the RDS8000. I am a relative newbie, however, the cost of a new Futaba 6EX Tx in Delhi is being quoted as ~ Rs. 8000, while the RDS8000 with Tx + Rx + 4 Servos is being quoted at Rs. 12880. Thus the dilemma :-).

Thanks in Anticipation for your responses  :bow:
Rgds,
aX
Title: Re: Goodness of RDS8000
Post by: ujjwaana on June 09, 2011, 04:50:53 PM
Quote from: aXedge on June 09, 2011, 12:21:32 PM
    Some time back, my Futaba 6EX went kaput.
Though this would be thread hijacking. RDS8000 is muich superior to Futaba 6EX and comparable to Futaba 7C/Spektrum DX7. If you have budget, go for it.

People are successfully using Orange FASST receiver with most Futaba 2.4G Tx including 6EX. They cost $28 + $3 shipping from Hobby King. You can try Anam_funny/VK singh if they have that in stock.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=14300
Title: Re: Goodness of RDS8000
Post by: vinay on June 09, 2011, 06:11:51 PM
No duplicate/clone receivers and cant use High voltage on the RX are the only 2 problems Iam facing which is preventing me from mocking 7C owners  :(
Title: Re: Goodness of RDS8000
Post by: ujjwaana on June 09, 2011, 06:49:58 PM
Quote from: vinay on June 09, 2011, 06:11:51 PM
........Preventing me from mocking 7C owners  :(

No Way.... Futaba and JR/Spektrum  are THE most popular Radio Systems. Over that Futaba never needed to Rev their FAAST protocol to v2 or vX!!
And accept that Futaba 7C is better in few feature than RDS8000, even with 1 channel less.
Title: Re: Goodness of RDS8000
Post by: Akshayb on June 09, 2011, 07:59:20 PM
What a wastage of time reading Idiotically silly reviews(pdf) posted couple of posts above, if futabas can work fine in Dusty, Sultry hot Indian weather they can work fine any where in world. Futaba is famous for making radio controls for industrial applications, where tonnes of load hangs in air on radio's mercy and so do lives of people working there. So if they work well there, they can any where, of course with small rc planes.

RCer world over have tested Futaba's orange receiver i.e FRSKY receiver and vouched for it's reliability.

Do any body aware of Sanwa rx clones?

So clone lovers go for Futaba (Bio-tech is advanceing you know)LOL

HI aXedge, Futaba 6ex for  :Rs:8000? with or without receiver?, if it's with receiver jump for it, and help others by posting link of the seller here.

Title: Re: Goodness of RDS8000
Post by: prateek13 on June 09, 2011, 08:05:57 PM
i think sanwa clones "maybe" do not exist
so go for the originals
Title: Re: Goodness of RDS8000
Post by: vinay on June 09, 2011, 08:21:14 PM
Quote from: ujjwaana on June 09, 2011, 06:49:58 PM
No Way.... Futaba and JR/Spektrum  are THE most popular Radio Systems. Over that Futaba never needed to Rev their FAAST protocol to v2 or vX!!
And accept that Futaba 7C is better in few feature than RDS8000, even with 1 channel less.

Well that quote was specially for you :D
Title: Re: Goodness of RDS8000
Post by: aXedge on June 10, 2011, 09:05:14 AM
Hi Akshay, Rs. 8000 was only for the Tx.
Title: Re: Goodness of RDS8000
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Can you kindly share seller details/contacts?