Mr.seller,we have never seen such a coward like u man!!!  

Mr Sanket,

Aeromodelling is a hobby very dear to us my dear friend. In the zeal to get it early as described by you in your ebay listing that it will be dispatched in two days of purchase. I bought it from you. I was not expecting you will deliver one month late and that too counterfeit replicas of the original DVD with a used Simulator bought by you on 13 Sep 2011 from ebay.com ebay ID : wi-model2. The Original DVD you have conveniently retained with yourself and  making all tall claims it is working with you its of no concern to me. What you have sent me is not what you have posted, at-least for the sake of inflated claim it is worth Rs 2300/-. Who cares if it is working with you or not. You have not sent me the same product working with you but sent me a counterfeit copy of the same.

No one is begging from you for Rs 2300/-. In your Dreams if you are expecting that I will be scammed  and cheated for even Rs 1/- leave alone Rs 2300/- by a Kid in the position and stature where I am. You are living in a world of online fraud and piracy and you expect your word to be believed as a gospel truth you are living in a fantasy princess fairy land my boy.

I have posted the exact link of where you have bought the product for exactly Rs 600/- pulled out from your own ebay feedback profile. Still you want to claim Its Rs 2300/- worth. You don't even have a working replacement to give me let alone delivering the piece you bought from ebay.com intact to me.

You have posted in your link a brand new, original box packed, two day delivery, 7 day return policy in your listing description.  After sending a counterfeit replica now fighting immaturely saying I will not give a refund is childish. Like I told you earlier if I did not have an intention of buying from you I would not given you the time extension for delivery in ebay which you requested for. I would have got refund 15 Days back. I tried to live up to my commitment of purchase in ebay but you still want to make fake claims after sending me a replicated copy and used non working simulator dongle

I am a Soldier my Boy. I have been bread to Kill my enemy even before he even dreams of attacking me. Even though I have removed all the personal remarks made earlier after your Sorry, I  knew very well all your sorry in ebay and here are all blatant lie, again to distract me away for not giving me the refund due to me.

I knew you will respond like this after I have filed for refund in ebay.

Hey boy, had I been at your place, I would have sincerely apologised and refunded the amount .... You know why ?

a) Creating a cordial relationship is much important than earning only 2300 Rs
b) He is a highly respectable senior officer, for him there is no loss but a disappointment that another fellow beccome a cheater.
c) Given a chance, If a Senior office of his rank and intellect is ready to become my friend in just 2300 Rs, I would jump of that opportunity.

money can be stolen, cheated and earned.

A good relationship can only be earned and you've lost the chance. May god bless you.

With all respect ....

Sir ....  Be true to your country ,, atleast i hope so .... which RCD is selling is also a replica .... if you buy a mp3 ..you copy and distrubute to 10 friends .... and 100s of ipod then ...that doesnot mean the songs which you copied is duplicate or you have changed the lyrics ....I hope you are mature enough to understand this ....  and about dongle i will see to it what have you done.. i have seen your post it clearly shows that you are a computer geek and electronics also ..... you and rcd mixed up and called up my sample piece and did al the operations .... more over you have the free TIME to search my source of buying (wimodel2) and all ... with all respect stop being such a looser ...  why would a buyer take pain to search the source from where he bought the simulator. And regarding my simulator if it doenot work when it is back to me ... i will see how you get your refund back.... !!!! bye no more comment from my side dont have time for stupid things ....  

With all due respect,

If not immature really cheeky my boy. Go ahead with what you can. Don't even dream That the ebay refund or no refund is the end of it. You will know when it hits you.

Every seller has the right to sell anything at the price which he thinks its worth. But surely that does not absolve him from delivering what he has promised for that price. You cannot get away with listing an illusion and deliver peanuts.   

i am not doing anything ................. i will refund your money .... i want the product back as it was send to you ...finish ... !!! peace out ....!!!

Quote from: sjejani on November 11, 2011, 11:11:19 AM
ALL this rcindia forum does is promote items for RCD and support them

YES !  RC India supports RCDhamaka, and all others in this list :

http://www.rcindia.org/rc-outlets-and-resellers/mega-list-of-all-rc-outlets-in-india/

And we will admit we have a soft corner for whomever is towards the top on this poll (and RCDhamaka is consistently rated high) :

http://www.rcindia.org/rc-outlets-and-resellers/best-hobby-shop/

And there is one other thing that RC India does, and does pretty well.. that is to help ensure scammers are brought to light.

It seems like you had no idea that RCDhamaka was selling the same item for much less, guess that is your gripe against them ? Rule number one in business is to "know your competition", and you seem to have failed spectacularly at that.

Each subsequent post and PM (many of which have been forwarded to me) you are making here seems to confirm to everyone your total disconnect not just with the RC scene in India, but also with how commercial transactions are conducted in a gentlemanly fashion. 

I request you to not make such statements further, it only damages any traces of your remaining credibility

If peace out !? Why are you Being offensive by saying I will drag you all to court etc through PMs? Are we to believe this peace out is for real or a ruse?

I suggest you listen to a song called Gambler by Kenny Rogers, this I am Mr right attitude will do you harm, please take it as an advice

Quote from: sjejani on November 11, 2011, 12:47:14 PM
you and rcd mixed up and called up my sample piece and did al the operations ....

Are you out of your mind or deranged in some way or something. I bought from you on 08 Oct 2011 even before you posted here that is 11 Oct 2011. I was the idiot who gave you the idea of posting here also.


After leaving your complete credentials with me including all the details of your listing description, post interaction with me photographs of the product, Your terms and condition of sale, return policy,  You still want to be in a fools paradise stating You will drag us to court. Wait and watch, you continue this any further see how I break the daylights out of you for cyber crime.

I recognize a snake when I see it. If it means harm to me be rest assured it will be disposed appropriately.

I have seen many like you in ebay in last six to seven years. Mind you have not even spared one till they have come begging to me for mercy.

voo ...u think i am scared ...go ahead then ..... show rcindia.org what you capable of ...!!!!!!!   Seriously Do it ..Sir ...!!! yo think i am the one ...its RCD who i selling commercially .... not me ...and what you think i m a seller ...i hardly sold anything on ebay .... RCD is the commertial thing ... look whoz scared now .... and as you know i send a document ..sooo think ...

Go ahead do anything to me and its RCD who is in trouble ... understand MR. Army man ... 

And pls Mr. Army Man .... just dont talk, do and show ...!!!

Was that a last min bravado?

You are the one sending PMs and SMSs to unrelated and unconnected people that you will drag them to court, when two person involved in the this case is you and me.

I don't have to show anything to any one. But You will surely know when it hits you. You are living in a fools paradise if you think I have wasted all my time in downloading all the details of your listings and purchases, making copies of photographs of the product posted by and you and what you have sent, screen shots of every POD detail you have fwd. If you think I am playing hide and seek with you and done all that without any purpose or motive then you are sadly mistaken.  I am in no measure mincing my words when I say I will break the daylights out of you. So Watch you will know when it hits you. Today people steel Rs 1000/- Mobile Phone and are in big trouble for it. who are you?

Today is 11.11.11 destiny changing date they say. Surely it going to be one for you.

Sandy
All this was avoidable if you had consulted, like I always consult , mostly you, before buying, someone unknown would have bought it, or it would have gone unsold.

That brings me to next point, GUYS on this forum, please consult before you put your there are a lot of people willing to give their advice for free, because of the love for the hobby ,

@Sanket: Do the right thing and apologize before the hole you're digging for yourself gets deeper....

Thanks I am A human ...
I really dont care ... i am rgt i wont deny that ... my product was good tested by myself ....so i m ready to jump in the hole... !!! as told before i really dont care ... !!!!! 

Anwar,
Can we lock this thread? This discussion is not going anywhere. A point has been made that the seller was not genuine. Beyond that this slanging match does not add value. I see no reason why this thread cannot be locked and this seller be added to the 'avoidable list'

ALL,

I have sent a genuine working piece ... why would i lie ,,i sold a 700rs thing at 2000rs and why would i risk of selling a wrong thing ...i was having a straight 150% profit .... !!!!  I would like to post a link of my simulator once it reaches me , proving that it works ...

thats all ... !!!!!  The buyer was getting a cheap one outside or what ever the reason may be  ...!!! But theres no chance i send a wrong one .... more over i dont have a shop or anything ...so i dont even care ... but i just want the Truth to be known ....

Sanket please stop shooting your own foot,

Exhibit-1

Quote from: sjejani on October 11, 2011, 05:03:05 PM
USB simulator phoenix G5 aerofly XTR all in one

Exhibit-2

Quote from: sjejani on November 05, 2011, 01:23:36 PM
I'm the only one selling on Ebay.

Exhibit-3

Quote from: sjejani on November 11, 2011, 09:55:17 PM
ALL,
I have sent a genuine working piece

The Cost of Basic G5 alone (Without any addon etc) is 99.98$ +Shipping
(http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXXSG5&P=ML)
Do you think you were selling Genuine Stuff ?

That is the truth and...

Quote from: sjejani on November 11, 2011, 09:55:17 PM
Truth[/i] to be known ....

please, Humility..

Edit
Rate changed after correction pointed out by Prateek (thanks)

Quote from: augustinev on November 11, 2011, 10:21:32 PM
The Cost of Basic G5 alone (Without any addon etc) is 49.99$ +Shipping
(http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXXSG5&P=ML)
Do you think you were selling Genuine Stuff ?
That is the truth and...

Sorry Gusty sir!
It is $99.98 with two payments of $49.99

just to rectify

And for Mr.seller i would like to say that you should mind your language when interacting with much senior people while on this reputed and CLEAN forum.

Ya So these clean people are descent enough to copy someones photo from facebook and post ...rgt Mr Prateek ...u agree with gusty sir ? ....!!! and that to being a 3rd person .... who is of no concern in this thread ... i mean he has the time to do all these ...!!! and regarding genuine piece i meant a working piece as quoted by Mr. Sundaram ...i have send a copied DVD ..he expects a genuine all in simulator ... why didnt any one point out that ?? Y gusty Sir ..y didnt you point out that ... and after everythign stopped you again started with posting and poking the nose ... rgt maybe jobless ??no offence ... with all respect I cant bear these adults any more ... keep writing shit i will also do the same ... atlast when i am completely pissed ..i will see to it how the heck he copied my photo and posted it ... !!!

what photo are you talking about now??? mr rgt

leave everything ...you can ask Mr.Gusty Sir about photo act,....!!!!  and prateek ... i would not lie for 2000 rs ...i have completely checked the simulator ...i have run all the software and then i have send ... I dont know how to make you guyz trust me ... i am not a seller or nor do i hv any shop ,,, i jus thought selling simulator a good idea ... but never thought it would landup at this situation... !!!
cheerz mate ..

missed out on this thread..!!

ANWAR sir can u make it a sticky in the for sale board (or any other suitable place)

i kno it is none of my buizness to interfere but i could not refrain myself from replying noting to your reply to augustin sir and sundaram sir...

@mr sanket jejani: after a quick research on you and what you have written above without much of the knowledge of whom u are talkin to. i came down to the following conclusions.

1> you are a utter novice in this field and know nothing about RC.. looking at what questions you posted on hobbyking.com
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/CustPublicDetails.asp?id=507658

2> mind whom you are talking to: you are talking to and about the masters in this field. sundaram sir and gusty sir has given 10 time more than what he paid you in kind donations or as starters for enthusiasts in the field. ( just get a background check). They have spent many times more in this hobby that what ever you have earned till today. both have more experience and knowledge you will find in other 100 rc fliers.

3> what you are selling and at what price you are selling is of no means/issue to me or any one. the seller can sell it for his price. the buyer has to think if to buy or not. so no issue in this case.
where you had a fault was that you posted the advertise and accepted cash when you did not have the product in hand...! fine there also as sandy sir was considerate... but if you send such a piece its logical to ask for a replacement or a refund ( you refused both, what kind of a seller are you..??)

4> i had a same experience with a sim dongle with RCbazaar they sent me a new one right away, i sent them the damaged one around a month late and this was one when they were just starting. now it is one of my favorites...
MORAL: u need to get customers happy with the product you are selling... even if you might be not getting much of a profit from it..! even if they were wrong and you were right.!

5> people whom you are calling jobless are defense personnel. think u dont know what defense is...  

6> sundaram sir was right on his part... may be your are on your own..! god knows. ! but as a seller its your duty to make the buyer happy.. ! and why did you post on 30 threads when you did not have stock in hand or did not comply to the return policy

there are around 3000+ members here and there are 1587 views for this think of your rep now...!

LOOK AT YOUR COMPETITIONS and what is the price it is sold in india. yes if it was a original OS engine and you took 100% profit it would be understandable as no one stocks it in india now( or getting rare) you wanted to take advantage agreeable there ..!!

DONT GET ME WRONG just want to prove the point that think before you act. If you are getting into rc then u need advice, help , suggestions and not to mention material. you can have a gold mine of the first three from them( even the fourth if you get lucky )
clear all the bad comings and start a new venture in the world of RC..
you are most welcomed in this hobby even now if you do/dont  clear the doubts....

cheers man 

PS: admin/ moderator if any thing offensive please edit no objections.

wooo ..... i guess forum is ruled by these people and i guess i messed up with wrong ones ... so no point talking about this ...  hatsoff to Gusty Sir ...!!!

All i say is my simulator was in a working conditoin and i have no reason to lie about that ....

Sanket
Your father is a RC pilot, ask him, this is a very small community like you rightly pointed out in the pm, people give stuff and rarely ask for / take money for it, we crash 1000s of rs kaput, but we move on, this hobby teaches us to let go, no other hobby does that to your psyche, there have been instances in this very forum, where people came around and now they are guys who have been accepted into this scaffold with open arms, humility is the key, don't they or didn't they teach you this at montfort's ( I am a Montfort product too) like i told you in PM, don't stick to your guns, say sorry uncondtionally, refund and continue here in this forum as if nothing happened,(the answers for questions you will have will be better than what you get at HobbyKing, there people post for earning credits, here? no such selfish motives) we once in a while have difference of opinion with our parents and siblings, they don't seize to be one after the pow-wow isn't? Similarly here, just say 'I made a mistake' and you are most welcome, vainglory , ego, these are issues which really kills, I am not being sermonic, the fact is anyone who reads this would like to read the conclusion as well, all is well that ends well, this movie's end is in your hands, don't make it a tragedy.

Ps
The pic he is talking about is an open source pic from facebook, which was removed immediately on request, much before I got threatening PMs.