:banghead: lost my quad today while flying with RCB7X,reason-signal loss,searched for an hour but no hope,i was flying at eye level i was bringing towards myself at half the power and then turned to right,then it loses signal.And then it doesnt responds to my stick.moves sideways at pretty speed at an inclined angle over 3 story building doesnt hit any tree which is shocking, after about 10sec it becomes a dot and then disappears.
dont know what to do tomorrow i am going to find it again and really confused what to do???about 14k dissapeared into thin air.
Well...... when I was a kid..... (early 1980s)... we did not have radios in India.... I used to fly free flight models... and lost a Y Bar which just flew away with my Mills .74 cc engine. We had cycles then... cycled my heart out to get the model but it kept flying away.... ultimately was stopped by a big wall and I could not take my cycle across. That was the time I decided no more model losses due to not being able to catch up. I started to run. Daily and in 4-5 months was doing about 5-6 kms. Soon it was deliberately increased to 10kms a day. I was in 10th standard that time. Thereafter I never had any problems... could run after the model.. jump walls etc etc.... and yes never lost any other model.
Moral of the story is... yes models can be lost. One must be ready for that. Flying in built up areas has it perils as signal loss can take place due to reflections / blockage of signals from anything (big trees, building, high tensions power lines, TV / Mob towers etc etc....).
We all need to be careful for such a thing.
Usually one puts a sticker with one's phone number so that the finder calls up [ it has happened ]
wat Flight controller ??
felt good reading your experience,in my case i coudn't run because model sped away at about 60kmph,and trees bolcked it and took just a moment before it became invisible.
it was kk2.1
those days.... it was more of Gliders and Free Flight models which had a simple one minute engine run and then they would glide...... You had no way to control the glide other than the Auto Rudder.... the wind would do the rest.
Quote from: Shyam Hembram on August 23, 2014, 08:02:03 PM
:banghead: lost my quad today while flying
dont know what to do tomorrow i am going to find it again and really confused what to do???about 14k dissapeared into thin air.
Feeling bad for the loss..
What was the capacity of battery? Area in which you were flying residential or else?
Didnt you program any failsafes? Like throttle cut when throttle signal is lost? Or no inputs for half a second or more and the quad will slowly power down?
Sorry for the loss hoping you will find it. Shouldnt have let go kept on searching, now even if anyone does find it they cant contact you.
i was flying in a large field and battery was 2600mah.when i started flying it was 11.2v out of total 12.5v,not fully charged which was a good thing though. i only flew it 2-3minutes before it went out of control and with remaining charge it would have flown about more 3-4 minutes which means it could have travelled too far
Not only that but if you are saying it was gaining altitude then in 3-4 minutes it could have gone pretty far up before running out of juice. RCB7X lost signal in an open ground Is quite peculiar.
here are a few suggestions
look up the flight path on google earth and search along that line
be systematic , get three or four friends start at your point of loss and fan out along the presumed flight path.
a quad can realistically travel max about a km without input and then it will crash - so limit your arc of search to one km.
also kk 2.1 has self level. ... when you were flying did you have it enabled ?
yeh @rcneil you are correct it was gaining a constant altitude before it became too small and invisible.i think the culprit was the RX.every time i fly i often encounter signal loss.every time.TX must be fine
@shyam hembram
I usually never fly my battery down to below 11.4, or 3.8 per cell.
Occasionally down to 11.1 or 3x3.7
I would never take off at 11.2!
The problem is that sometimes at 11.1, the cells will be 3.85+3.85+3.4
My considered suggestion is never take off below 11.4, even for a circuit and bumps (ie, one circuit and landing)
I know there is a big debate on RCG/RCU about this. But my experience is that battery dependability is drastically reduced if you run it below 3.7 per cell or store for over 4 weeks at above 3.85. The battery will still work, but reliability is doubtful, as you will find out when you fly a model / motor combo that needs full throttle. Happened to a co-flyer last sunday, when one cell went to 2.8. Fortunately i was able to save his battery (hopefully) by cycling it. Will know fate tomorrow.
Trust you have set failsafe (at least low throttle) for such contingencies.
With failsafe there is no excuse for losing a model due to radio link failure.
Incidentally my FRSKY telemetry RX makes the Tx beep if reception is weak.
Sorry. Noticed that I'm talking about airplanes in a Quad flyaway thread. May be similar.
"Started Flying at 11.2 volts"
Hmm, that's the voltage to land a model :headscratch:
Well, since you did flew it for 2-3 mins even that too after staring at 11.2 volts, it shouldn't have been able to fly for any more than a couple of minutes extra.
Quads eats up power a lot faster since there are 4 motors eating up the power at the same time.
Also you did mentioned that the quad flew away at pretty high speed which means the voltage drop would have significantly accelerated.
Just a positive heads up for you for the morning :thumbsup:
BTW, I hope that you did had a LiPo Alarm on board.
LiPo alarms are not just essentials for regular flights but also quite helpful in scenarios like these.
yep saikat self level was on.if you are saying it could only go upto 1km,i better not lose hope
that was my bad @Iyer sir.I never fly at 11.2v,i dint intend to fly today as i knew,it was not fully charged as there was no supply. but one of my friend insisted me to teach him so i took it out
What usually happens in flysky radios is that when the signal is lost, the receiver holds the last received position, till it regains signal. Thats probably why your quad kept its last position and sped away irrespective of any flight mode on kk2. Just had first hand experience last week(broken antenna wire).
I dont know about kk2.xx but multiwii has failsafe, which atleast makes sure copter doesnt behave in the way it happened in your case. I had lost my copter too some time ago for 3 days, but we found it because it wasnt a flyaway but a crash during FPV for reasons yet unknown. So we had an idea where it was.
And as Saikat said, take a couple of guys,perform search in some appropriate pattern. I did the same thing and it worked. Hope you find your quad back.
so @sidewinder what could be the reason for signal loss- broken antenna wire??? and yes we will go in a group of 7-8
Rx's from rcb are sometimes glitchy, be sure to replace it if it is glitchy.
Really feeling bad for your loss. Hope you get your quad ASAP. Just don't leave any place in a radius of 1km or whatever. A suggestion for all your other models and also for all of us is to have some sticker or something that has our name and contact no. on it in English as well as any other regularly spoken language. Atleast it could give some ray of hope.
this is a pretty old google map pic,and as it is rainy season the place is filled with trees and bushes and there is a small stream,which makes it a lot difficult to search.
Any update?
If there was battery cutoff at 11.1 it wouldnt have flown for more than a minute.
So you might find it in a 1km radius. But if there was no cutoff then it could have taken the battery to fully drained point, till it cant deliver enough amps to run motors, ppssible 2min flight time. In traffic on my moped i cover 2km in 2-4min, the quad doesnt have any obstacles it could have gotten much further. Searching in 1km radius could be pointless. But search in 1km radius with 8 friends then increase search area if you dont find.
search in the direction of wind at that time.
coudnt find today also,went with six friends,the main difficulties are the big big bushes
Well.... the advice given by KK Sir is absolutely correct. We must always be careful of the battery voltage. The issue here is that the battery also powers the Rx and the servos.... if the batt goes too low than the performance of everything gets effected. OR else use separate battery for the Rx to save such a situation.
were you guys carrying sticks - take long sticks and poke bushes
no sticks @saikat as bushes were large and dense
hey guys,after about 5 months of waiting or rather say that i totally gave up. Today i got an excellent news,about my quadrotor. one man from my area who knew about my lost quad,informed me that he knew a guy stating that the man took it with him,which is now abt 150km away.he said that the quad was laying on the roadside where the man who was actually a driver was out for toilet,found it and took it with him.
now i have to personally go to him,until then fingers crossed.
Best of luck.
:thumbsup:
thnx @Iyer sir and indianhobbyshop
Guys have you watched Amir Khan's PK ? If yes you must have noticed how in the opening scene Amir landed from the space ship and his Remote is snatched off my a man who than runs away !! Which clearly displays Indian mantelaty ! This is what has happened with Shyam bro ! Its India man a crashes won't do that much damage but people around will do enough to make you bang your head ! Bro all the best I hope you get it back (-: Go to him and tell him how important it is to you and off him some money if he asks for !! All the best
yep an absolutely best movie,its hard to guess about condition of my quad,the man must have kept it or dismantled it,cant say anything but if i find it,i will definitely give him a reward
finally came to know that, the person who had the quad cant be contacted,nobody know him.quads gone
Same thing happened with me a few weeks back
I was flying in Delhi at a small park wkth my RCB6i.
Had just installed a fresh battery in my tricopter which i just built a few days back and had only flown 2 or three times.
I throttled up a bit and my radio suddenly lost signal, it kept going up and drifting away until i could only see a dot, and then nothing at all.
There was still about 20mins of flight time left, must have gone several kilometers away.
Followed it a bit, but then I knew that nothing could be done.
Just had to accept it.
Haven't used that transmitter since, and now all my copters have failsafe.
Shyam feeling sad for you bro
Hey guys, same experience here but when my flight went out of control i switched off the transmitter and the model just crashed. I also noticed that this problem with Fsct6b is due to low transmitter battery, from then on i' being carefull to fully charge my batteries.
@pushpreet,
Low battery in Tx,
Or low range from Tx?
It was just around 20ft high.
And no issues with the battery.
Just lost connection, just like that.
>:(@pushpreet my deepest sympathy to you,now we are in the same page,i know whats it feels when a quad becomes a dot in mid air :giggle:
its fine @roshan,nothing can be done..but this cant deter me from building another quad,hoping to build within a couple of months
Hii guyz
Today is the happiest day of my life,i jst found my quad after 10 months of patience and waiting
Condition was good, not pretty bad two motors damaged due to rusting and havent tested those esc and only one broken arm,it was found by local villagers about 3-4km from my place
congrats shyam .... Ur one lucky guy to get Ur model back...;D
:salute: for the villagers for returning it to you so modestly.
Thnx buddy:D, i was so happy that i jst gave them 500 instantly.feels great to find your lost model back
Congrats....clean it with kerosene or petrol...
did already,it seems the casings are damaged,nothing can be done,rest two motors looks good
Congrats for your Quad
Happy to see it back to you ..
Great Indian People :-) :thumbsup:
Aaah! A Happy ending ;)
Shyam the damages happened to electronics could be very less or none at all. ESC s can definitely be repaired, but don't power up them before cleaning thoroughly - you can remove the wrapper and clean the circuit board with any non corrosive liquid cleaner or water itself and completely dry it . treat all the electronics in this way ( ESC , receiver , motors ..) Flight controller can also be done like this if it is one with out an LCD.
But test them after everything is completely dry..
havent yet tested the esc,i dint thought of cleaning them,as it was in rain i thought some may be damaged