Quote from: topalle on July 23, 2015, 01:27:57 PM
https://www.change.org/p/directorate-general-of-civil-aviation-form-rules-for-uav-flying-as-a-recreational-hobby?just_created=true

Subscribed but I don't think it's gonna work cause you need at least 100 to make it a petition and further for the DGCA to see it (if they see it)

License will no doubt complicate things, it's better that we petition so that govt. realises this is a hobby and draft such rules that it doesn't inconvenience  a hobbyist but at the same time ensures that it won't let them go unpunished if they break the rules or the norms set by the system.

I fully agree. But we need to write these things to PM so that our point of view is taken into consideration. Sitting idle and hoping for the best will not help.

I request Anwar Sir to take some initiative on behalf of this forum.

http://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/Centre-Frames-Extensive-Guidelines-to-Prevent-Aerial-Terror/2015/09/05/article3011404.ece


Regulations are very strict

Hi all,
I'm aakash from chhattisgarh.
My hobby is photography which lead me into drones.
Currently i have Walkera 350pro and DJI phantom 3 standard.

I just want to ask if any of you know how long will it take to legalize UAV in India. Since its actually banned since 2014 oct.
And should we try to do something about it.
Kindly discuss your view here.

We have done many things. if you go through the forum youll find it.
the decisions are yet to come.

FAA constituted a Task Force to consider Registration of Unmanned Aerial Systems.
The Task Force members were:
3D Robotics (3DR), Academy of Model Aeronautics (AMA), Aerospace Industries Association (AIA), Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA), Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association (AOPA), Amazon Prime Air, Amazon Retail, American Association of Airport Executives (AAAE), Association for Unmanned Vehicle Systems International (AUVSI), Best Buy, Consumer Technology Association (CTA), DJI, General Aviation Manufacturers Association (GAMA), GoogleX, GoPro,Helicopter Association International (HAI), International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP), Management Association for Private Photogrammetric Surveyors (MAPPS), Measure, National Association of State Aviation Officials (NASAO), National Business Aviation Association (NBAA), Parrot, Precision Hawk, Small UAV Coalition, Walmart.

The executive summary of their report dated 21.11.15 says:
The Task Force recommendations for the registration process are summarized as follows:
1) Fill out an electronic registration form through the web or through an application (app).
2) Immediately receive an electronic certificate of registration and a personal universal registration number for use on all sUAS owned by that person.
3) Mark the registration number (or registered serial number) on all applicable sUAS prior to their operation in the NAS.

Sounds familiar?

Quote from: K K Iyer on July 22, 2015, 09:47:07 PM
A draft is offered here, based on my email to DGCA on 12th Oct 2014.

1. DGCA could set up a website for flyers of remote controlled aircraft models to register on
2. Flyers of RC aircraft models can register by providing their name, ID, address, phone number, transmitter frequency and location of usual flying site, and get a registration number.
3. Flyers of non remote controlled models need not register.
4. Main restrictions can be:
- weight not to exceed 5kg
- no flight above 400 ft
- no flight within 5km of an ATC airport
- no flight over public or vehicles or houses. Rules for permission can be worked out.

The DGCA registration can be like a car numberplate. Flyers can proudly display on their models.

Iyer sir, eventually there will have to be some sort of licensing, to ensure an unqualified and undesirable person does not operate

Point is: In our desh this converts just to a license raj, another conduit for ghoos, and never can be implemented effectively

Iyer Sir, is dgca wants faa approval for the program to run in India.

Here's a suggestion for DGCA:

1. Make all of us register with FAA (free till 20th Jan 2016!)
2. Ask FAA to give DGCA access to their database

Will save DGCA all the trouble of setting up a monitoring system.
Cheep and besht, huh?

The American officers will get rich!

people are against faa right now
hope we have it easier here

Hi all members,
Just got the Jan issue of RCSD. Found this in the editorial.

As we proceed with this process, we suggest AMA members hold off on registering their model aircraft with the FAA until advised by the AMA or until February 19, the FAA's legal deadline for registering existing model aircraft.

I think that this could be the reason for hold off registration;
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2564305

Well... my two bit....

DGCA is the authority to be reckoned with in our country.  It will never allow FAA to take charge of any issue where DGCA should be taking charge.  Well but the other side is... FAA is considered acceptable to the world and so the DGCA.  ICAO is the mother body for all these to enact any law or rule....

Well.... on the issue of allowing flying of UAS in Indian civil airspace.... only DGCA has the authority but it can not be countering any of the ICAO rulings as it is ICAO which makes the rules on civil avilation and the local bodies like DGCA further make rules as per the local laws... to be implemented as per the guidelines of ICAO.  Today the security environment is so complex that anything and everything can be made to instigate a mob or create a public scare.  Further flying the UAS specially the multicopters (as many people refer to them as drones) in crowded public places like marriages and places of worship during some festivals for photography) in public places has a lot of dangers as most equipment is not safety certifies.  The simple Phantom if safety certified for use in public places will probably cost a huge amount and be out of reach of most individual buyers. 

As of now... I believe the DGCA has stated that it is in the process of formalising regulations for individuals flying UAS in Indian Civil Airspace and this they have said in clear terms.  Therefore....  

Lets give it to the DGCA to come out with the rulings and conditions it wants to impose on flying these aeromodels.  I am sure it will be such that both civil aviation and the hobby can go hand in hand and in an absolute safe environment.  All we need to do is.... the so called apex bodies of aeromodellers in India need to stand up now..... or they should have done it long time ago... to form some sort of regulations and pass them to all aeromodellers to adhere to in their own ways.  As much water has flown over now.... guess this is the best course to be followed.

1.  Wait for DGCA to formulate the guidelines.

2.  The aeromodeller associations in the country need to sit together and come out with a safe set of guidelines which correspond to the various Civil aviation guidelines and safety and security aspects in general.  This will assist DGCA to understand what the aeromodellers want and how they want to implement it.

3.  The final word still remains with the DGCA.

AMA in USA that has existed for over 50 years, and has lacs of members, was unable to get FAA to accept AMA number as registration.

What about aeromodelling associations in India?
I was a member of SMAE over 50 years ago, but now I'm not a member of anything except RCI!

How many members does AMAI have? How many RCI members are members of AMAI?
How many members does RCI have? Is RCI the largest Indian aeromodellers association?

I am aware of only 3 service officers on RCI. Are there others? Are there any IAS, IFS, IPS members? Any senior Judges?
Probably not.
Without them there's no way we can talk to the Govt.

You have seen what response I got from DGCA (none!)
You have seen what response santanucus got (buck passing)

I fear that we'll not get a clear answer in the next 2-3 years...

I request RCI members who are in positions of administrative power to use their influence.

(as per my information ) more then 10 associations & group (which According to them they are promoting aeromodeling in india)
but i dont know either they are promoting aeromoeling or yourself, No one is asking what they Did or Doing for this Hobby.
well it is a different issue. Our problem is that No one want to come out n act responsibly, they just blaming the AMAI.

AMAI has 400+ member in Today date & we will do it which would be good for aeromodling n Our members

Regards
laxman

KK Sir..... my humble request.... I may be an optimistic.... but guess the DGCA is on the job and soon the guidelines will be out...  I am sure the DGCA has intentions of clearing the individuals to fly their"UAS".........

http://www.rcindia.org/self-designed-diy-and-college-projects/research-project-study-on-'perception'-to-compliance-car-2-0-dgca-drone-policy/new/#new

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfG3klNiDe6JLRRhZ88fHiPHkV4bf-qroYM8T1sS6hYMP4jPw/viewform?usp=sf_link

Request for your response on this questionnaire a research topic on perception to DGCA policy..

Rrequest respondant to provide responses presuming you have an intention for commercial use and have a venture utilising drones/fixed wing for the same