Need to form a pressure group to have a say in the upcoming law on UAVs

Started by santanucus, July 21, 2015, 09:50:26 PM

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docnayeem

I guess .. The government will never take up to he responsibility of registering and maintaining the Register .
I feel AMAI , should maintain the Register and furnish the details to the government as and when required.
But why is AMAI missing in all this action ?

santanucus

Its not that they are missing in action. They (and ACI) did write a couple of letters to DGCA against the ban.

Here is one: http://www.amai.in/docs/ACI%20UAS.pdf
In terms of this letter, they are in favour of the one time clearance for fliers. But as you can see that their activities are primarily (and historically) related to planes only. They don't have a multirotor policy. They are trying to get exemptions for planes but silent about multirotors. But their activities appear limited.

Planes are hardly available commercially in the scale that multirotors are. The current issue is primarily due to multirotors. So if we wait for AMAI to come forward and do something, that may not happen.

Maintaining the register is not a big burden if e-Governance type system is used. Create a website and include self-registering system linked to Aadhar and that's sufficient to address many of the concerns.

iwincar

Police can take decision on case to case basis if the flyer submits all the details it is possible to fly. Prior intimation to nearest police authority is always a recommended

Registration procedure is not flyers domain , best to be left with authorities. 

iwincar

Santancuss seems too agitated with this, little that is suggested by him will be a immediate possibility, online regi is a tricky thing, after all it's a matter of National and public safety and so called flyers comfort will be the least concern of the authorities.

Swapnil

@iwincar

I completely agree with both of your previous posts.

iwincar

Chk this link , Darius Engineer mentioned in news paper of Indian Academy of model aeronautics -at mahalaxmi race course seems working on it

santanucus

Quote from: iwincar on July 23, 2015, 09:31:53 AM
Police can take decision on case to case basis if the flyer submits all the details it is possible to fly. Prior intimation to nearest police authority is always a recommended

Registration procedure is not flyers domain , best to be left with authorities.  

I guess you have not been following the thread from the beginning. A law on UAVs is being drafted. The whole thread is in that context. Where does the question of police decision on case to case basis arise here? We are talking about the need to put forth our views in respect of the law to the government. Once a law is formulated, police will have to act on the basis of the law and not on case to case basis.

Personally I have no reason to be agitated. I simply don't subscribe to the pessimistic view that let's sit idle and watch what government is doing or whatever we say, the government will not listen to our views. I face no problem in flying at all. I am closely involved in security related issues in the government in my professional life. But this is not a personal issue. Those who think that we have nothing to do are welcome to think so.

I am only requesting those fliers who think that we may have something to do in this respect to come up with proposals and suggestions and maybe form a consensus on this issue


santanucus

Its mostly about Microlight Aircraft, Hot Air Balloon, Paraglider etc. Regarding UAVs, I had written a letter to DGCA and they have assured that the rules will be lenient towards recreational users. However, the attitude of Ministry of Home Affairs may not be that lenient. Another letter written to them is still "under process". If MHA takes adverse view in respect of UAVs, then we'd be in trouble. In respect of our hobby, it is not possible to submit log book etc. to DM on regular basis. I hope they won't include such conditions in respect of hobbyists. The restriction on camera in manned aircrafts is also not a good news for unamanned FPV flying. Let's see what comes out of all such meetings.

PRAVEEN JOSE

I would say....its fools world...saw a video of Istanbul airport a couple of days before ,to be frank I am juat 2oo meters away from the airport and I know the risk and that's y I fly low and slow ...and these bunch of idiots so called photographers with phantom who claims to know everything regarding phantom ....
I could say I say video by Akhil was posted in wpp group ....just ask him ..he took permission from the local CA

ghoshatanu56

Hi all,
Just wanted to know how this pressure group will be formed and how they will act.? Should we individually send letters by speed post to pmo or is it to be done as an organization? And if it is being drafted now. How much time  do we have  before it is presented before  parliament ? 

santanucus

Although it has not been done in a systematic manner, some efforts have been made to convey our views to the DGCA and other concerned authorities.

Please see http://www.rcindia.org/chatter-zone/petition-on-change-org-successfully-created/125/ and http://www.rcindia.org/chatter-zone/petition-on-change-org-successfully-created/150/

Even though the reply from DGCA appears positive, the main concern is that Home Ministry may take a negative view from the security point of view. Since no consensus has been made to take up the matter as an organization, individual letters to various authorities like PM, DGCA etc. may be written. The basic points have been discussed in the above mentioned thread.