Please stop calling model hobby airplanes & multirotors as ‘UAV’s and ‘Drone’s.

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Dr. Abhishek Agrawal

(Sky Surfer V2 , Tiger Trainer MK III nitro , Arising Star nitro, Beetle QuadCopter ,Futaba T6 EX  Tx , Q450 Quadcopter with DJI NAZA M, JR XG 6 Tx , Techone Arrow 3D, Extra 300s 3D, Lil Ripper 3D foamy,  LH X1mini quadcopter, HJT EPO Quadcopter,Funtana 3D,FLYGUY 46" Superman, F-35 Jet, Mig-25 Foxbat Jet,    Frsky TARANIS PLUS TX , FT VERSA WING ,RC Flying Eagle,FT Spear wing, FT GUINEA PIG TWIN MOTOR, DJI Phantom 4 PRO, DJI MAVIC PRO,TBS,  5" Racer Quad, TARANIS Qx7,I )

Himadri Roy

Haven't anyone got a journalist friend through whom we can express our views?Can't we have registration of our models similar to vehicles (model no. plate)(i think someone on this forum did mention it!!)
Why can't the government bring this hobby to use or take any ideas...like israel's done making competition ? :hatsoff:
For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with eyes skywards for there you have been and there you will long to return
- Leonardo Da Vinci

https://www.youtube.com/himadrifpv

rcrcnitesh

Mr. Agrawal sir. it would be great if you could mention which newspaper and date is that we can't read anything.
Maker | Aeromodeller | Teenager

nchandra

We lost it; use of word 'UAV's and 'Drone' for hobby airplanes & multirotors is now common in journalism, nothing can be done.
@Himadri Roy : registration and other intervention from govt like bodies will only make situation worse.

Himadri Roy

For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with eyes skywards for there you have been and there you will long to return
- Leonardo Da Vinci

https://www.youtube.com/himadrifpv

Dr. Abhishek Agrawal

Hi nitesh

it is in Dainik Bhaskar dated 09/02/2015 RAIPUR EDITION

YOU CAN SEE IT ON www.bhaskar.com epaper chattisgarh edition

Will try to provide link
(Sky Surfer V2 , Tiger Trainer MK III nitro , Arising Star nitro, Beetle QuadCopter ,Futaba T6 EX  Tx , Q450 Quadcopter with DJI NAZA M, JR XG 6 Tx , Techone Arrow 3D, Extra 300s 3D, Lil Ripper 3D foamy,  LH X1mini quadcopter, HJT EPO Quadcopter,Funtana 3D,FLYGUY 46" Superman, F-35 Jet, Mig-25 Foxbat Jet,    Frsky TARANIS PLUS TX , FT VERSA WING ,RC Flying Eagle,FT Spear wing, FT GUINEA PIG TWIN MOTOR, DJI Phantom 4 PRO, DJI MAVIC PRO,TBS,  5" Racer Quad, TARANIS Qx7,I )

Axis power

Hi,

I wanted to let you know about this petition I just started on Change.org, "Directorate of General Civil Aviation (DGCA): Immediate Govt. regulation change regarding recreational Rc flying".
You can read more about it and sign the petition here:

https://www.change.org/p/directorate-of-general-civil-aviation-dgca-immediate-govt-regulation-change-regarding-recreational-rc-flying?recruiter=456616274

Created in struggle by the will of aeromodllers

kartp3112

When the whole world runs to a cliff he who runs in the opposite direction appears to have lost his mind

prabal276


kartp3112

I doubt if the government will pay attention,
But anyway THATS THW SPIRIT!
When the whole world runs to a cliff he who runs in the opposite direction appears to have lost his mind

RaghulHitman

I agree to the words "stop calling model hobby airplanes & Multirotors as  'UAV's or Drones"

Recently when few guys asked me when i completed my outdoor shoot in Ooty using a FPV Quad (carrying Gopro), the guys around there told me your drone looks different than white DJI Drones.

I corrected them saying Drone is not the right word. You can call this as Quadcopters or Multi Rotors which is the right word. I am mentioning this here just to make it clear how much serious I am with what i am doing! (I am really confused with what word to use here. Hobby or profession?) :headscratch:
I don't even want the names to be called wrong!

Sir my only question in this thread is..

Its okay to not to call multi rotors as UAV or Drone. But what is the term in the front 'Hobby'?

I really get annoyed here. With all due respect, I have to disagree to that because your point is "None of these components are commercial or industrial grade."
I do commercial shoots. And the components I buy online are enough for me to do the job. So I am sorry. Your point became invalid here.

And I pay to the locations for shoot like 1500 to 5000rs for a single day shoot. How can I say my Quad as a Hobby grade multi rotor?

Even if I used to say like that, will i get any more orders? Even if I get, for sure I will be under estimated for using the word 'Hobby'.

We all knew how much hard it is (till the learning process is complete comparing DJI drones) for an FPV Pilot to producing beautiful, brilliant or risky shots and bringing the quad safe home every time without getting lost in a Hills area, lake or river (as purposefully we go to such beauty locations for creating good shots).

Recently Ex Nasa Employee Mark Rober on his Youtube Video used NURK FPV for producing some mind blowing shots. The quad he used are almost same components we fly here the shots Nurk fpv produced  can be recreated by any experienced FPV pilot in India. High chance to do even better because operational wise they were not that challenging though for viewing it was very awesome.

You talked about Industry grade too and I think that point also could be avoided. My personal opinion, it all depends upon the budget. The same Nurk FPV guy in other side operated a Racing drone carrying RED Cinema camera. Same person, Same Hands, Same Skills.

I have strong objection for Professional FPV guys to call their multi rotors or Hobby Quad because we are not going to get any benefits or bring any benefits to RC community either. Rather high chances for only getting under estimate.

Also even the Police or Local laws are also going to catch us for sure If we say its just a Hobby Multi rotor and fly on a beach or peoples crowded places. Once again I admit it is stupid idea to fly our quad in such places. But Hobby means we should have any consumer benefits. Right? Here things wont work the same way for sure!

I still have other angry and objections on our country's foolish law and order itself. Once they ceased my 27000 vintage lens shipment from USA because it contained 2 omni antennas. According to our most respectable and intelligent Customs officials, I must be a terrorist. They prevented a huge disaster by ceasing a lens parcel which had 2 omni antennas. First time i felt ugly about our country's handling manners. Though in my 4 years shipping experience, I never complained about the import duties even though they charge inappropriate high fee at times.

This is another reason, I have to actually think sometime about my hobby to call as a Hobby? Because my government confuses me saying I have imported a restricted item and other times they say I imported a prohibited item.  :banghead:

Coming to the other side of your talks, I have to agree completely for every other things you spoke, where some RC guys create over hype by building a quad and no knowledge media peoples throw big light and make us uneasy giving big headlines what may appear to us like a 'nothing'

My reply to you is with utmost respect I am speaking what I felt in my mind after reading your views. So I am clearing this is not any kind of debate i am starting here.

Coming to this topic again, I feel this is highly our internal matter. Most RC guys are serious to the community and maintain discipline everywhere. Few immatured guys do that nonsense things and bring bad names to the community. They particularly bring disappointment to you like highly serious senior RC people's.

Hope this thing changes automatically sooner if existing RC guys take some time to step up when there is a need!

KALYANPRODHAN

Go through https://dronenlisting.dgca.gov.in/

If you are using for professional purpose (earning money), you have to take
1. Ownership Acknowledgement Number (OAN)
2. Drone Acknowledgement Number (DAN).

And it is mandatory. If you not take OAN & DAN, you are doing it illegally, just like driving a high speed car on highway, without having Driving license.
We have to unite and to prove ourself to make indigenous products as well as marketing / Canvasing them. I'm sure we must achieve success if we try unitedly.