just another bump may be.... where a RC show was termed as UAV show.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/expo-shows-what-uavs-can-do/article5643480.ece

correct me if wrong or if i have wrongly understood...

Absolutely !! The organisers and media both want to get in the limelight at the sake of our hobby

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UAV show and no fpv planes.. .

http://modernfarmer.com/2014/02/dear-modern-farmer-can-use-drone-farm/

Update on fined drone pilot

Article on "Drones Could Be Coming to American Skies Sooner Than You Think
Thanks to a 29-year-old "aerial anarchist" and his styrofoam airplane.
By JASON KOEBLER January 28, 2014"

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/01/drones-faa-lawsuit-coming-to-american-skies-102754.html#.UuiAnBCwrIU
http://dronecenter.bard.edu/interview-aerial-anarchist/

FAA-Stops-Beer-Drone-Delivery  
http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2014/01/30/FAA-Stops-Beer-Drone-Delivery

http://www.aerotechnews.com/news/2014/02/05/drydens-droid-demonstrates-autonomous-uas-to-uas-air-tow/

This is a drone: Watch the first footage of the UK's Cylon-like stealth drone in flight. New UK stealth drone looks like something straight out of SkyNet.

All of us should read the defence counsel's arguments against the $ 10,000 fine.
Link is within the article in the link provided by Anwar Sir in reply no 53 above.

Can we please Pardon Media for their business reasons!! 

Relax friends; media has Politics & Netas & Keriwal's & corruptions & MODI's and Babas to play with.

Discussion about Flying is just a novelty item (for the sake of)  in the newspaper and none including the editor take these articles serious. These articles got place in the news only when they find it hard to fill the space.

FLy Bindass!!! Crash Bindass!! 

Ps: Those who feel threatened with Authorities have their OWN reasons  . Rest all of us can Chillofy.

 

Also objectionable when people call aeromodels as 'toy-planes'.

Quote from: Aeroresurrect on February 08, 2014, 12:28:54 PM
Also objectionable when people call aeromodels as 'toy-planes'.

It is not objectionable they are after all big boys toys
Just like cool bikes and cars

Can anyone tell me the true definition of a drone or UAV?
What is the basic requirements a vehicle should have before it is termed as a drone or UAV?

If surveillance capabilities is the one of the requirements to term an aircraft as a drone or UAV then thats absurd.
Beacuse then all FPV capable planes and multis become drones or UAV's?
Just asking for my knowledge and so that others can know too.

Commercial drones are legal in the US for the time being, court rules
http://diydrones.com/m/blogpost?id=705844%3ABlogPost%3A1583095

Extract of latest Judgement passed unfavorable to FAA Jurisdiction.

Drones Cleared for Takeoff
The FAA dreams of regulating drone use, but a wise federal judge has grounded that idea.

By L. GORDON CROVITZ - Wall Street Journal

March 16, 2014 6:36 p.m. ET

Since 2007, the Federal Aviation Administration has threatened to prosecute anyone who uses a drone for commercial purposes. Regulators have managed to block the development of drones in the U.S. even as this new technology has quickly taken to the skies overseas.

This month a federal administrative judge held that the FAA has no legal authority to meddle in the market and dismissed a fine levied against an operator who defied regulators by getting paid to use a drone to film the University of Virginia campus. Judge Patrick Geraghty of the National Transportation Safety Board ruled that the agency had only issued internal guidance on drones and hadn't followed any process to apply restrictions to the public. He ridiculed the FAA's broad assertion of power to regulate drones by saying the agency could use the same argument arbitrarily to block "a flight in the air of a paper aircraft, or a toy balsa wood glider."

The FAA has appealed, still intent on grounding one of the most promising new industries made possible by the Internet. Instead of approving the safe use of drones, regulators have undermined innovation to block a new technology. The FAA has allowed only two commercial uses of drones, both in the remote Arctic off Alaska. Congress got fed up with agency foot-dragging and in 2010 passed a law ordering the agency to issue rules making drones legal for commercial use by 2015. The agency says it won't meet the deadline.

A camera drone flies near the scene where two buildings collapsed in East Harlem in New York City on March 12. Reuters

While bureaucrats dither, many U.S. businesses are engaging in regulatory civil disobedience. The Fresno Bee recently acquired a drone for gathering news, although other news organizations have received cease-and-desist orders. Director Martin Scorsese used a drone to film a scene in "The Wolf of Wall Street," though the FAA has gone after other film companies. Real-estate companies use drones to make videos about properties for sale. Baseball teams including the Washington Nationals use drones to monitor the performance of players during spring training.

"The more the FAA acts like a big Daddy, behemoth government agency that is imposing excessive restrictions," former FAA chief counsel Ted Ellett told Politico recently, "the more the feeling of 'I'm an American, they can't tell me what to do' kicks in."

The FAA allows "recreational" use of low-flying light drones. Consumers can choose among quadcopters, hexacopters and octocopters, most of which are made outside the U.S.

Governments in other countries have encouraged drones. Jeff Bezos hopes U.S. regulators will someday permit Amazon to deliver products via drone. Australia has already blessed a Sydney-based textbook retailer's plan to do just that. A video of a drone flying into an active volcano in the small Pacific island nation of Vanuatu went viral last week. A recent Wall Street Journal report gave these examples of businesses using drones: farmers in Japan to spread pesticides on 40% of rice fields, miners in Switzerland to make three-dimensional maps, and construction workers in Britain to survey sites of nuclear power plants.

Washington's antibusiness prohibition of drones is reminiscent of the beginnings of the Internet. For years, commercial use was a crime. A handbook issued at MIT MITD -19.95% in 1982 warned: "It is considered illegal to use the ARPAnet for anything which is not in direct support of government business. . . . Sending electronic mail over the ARPAnet for commercial profit or political purposes is both anti-social and illegal . . . and it is possible to get MIT in serious trouble with the government agencies which manage the ARPAnet."

President Obama tried to rewrite history with his "you didn't build that" speech in 2012. He asserted: "The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all companies could make money off the Internet." In reality, the Internet took off only in the 1990s, when Congress liberated it from exclusive use by the government.

The Internet is now permissionless: Websites and apps are launched without government approval. But many of the next generation of innovations are stuck in a mother-may-I morass of regulation. This includes iPhone-controlled, WiFi-connected and GPS-reliant drones as well as other "Internet of things" innovations like connected cars and medical devices. Existing tort and contract law cover most safety and privacy concerns. In any case, there's no excuse for bureaucrats to criminalize innovation while they delay approvals.

A lightly regulated Internet has shown entrepreneurs and consumers what can happen when government gets out of the way. Washington's refusal to allow drones to take off is a reminder that most industries in the U.S. remain hostage to slow-moving, risk-averse regulators. The freedom to innovate without asking permission should become the rule for all U.S. industries, not the rare exception.

hi all,

I feel the same.
To really distinguish any model aircraft out there. We have to categorize, what electronics define hobby, what don't.

May be a list of items that are found in the aircraft define its hobby grade.
People or media can compare from the list and give a better name for what they see.

Thanks

Hello All

We wanted to check the NOTICE with a different angle.

Knowledgeable friends, please help and search meaning of INDIAN CIVIL AIRSPACE.

We are sure my backyard / terrace is not INDIAN CIVIL AIRSPACE.

Another key point of thought is if we are not in INDIAN CIVIL AIRSPACE, why are we worried? Does DGCA hold authority over every inch of space? Of my drawing room too?

Regards,

Sphere Hobbies

As per what I have been told by a commercial pilot...  Any thing above 20 mts above the ground is Indian civilian air space

you mean I have to inform and take clearance from the ATC every time I take the lift to go to my grandmothers flat on the 15th floor ?

As of now no clear rules are their
This weekend i went to a place where some police officers followed us as it is deserted and visit for regular roundup
U was flying my tbs discovery pro
They asked what it is how does it fly what is the range if it has a camera saw it fly for two mins they left

If dgca had provided proper rules and guidelines the roundup police would have stopped me from flying it

Rather they didnt know what it is and what it does

a video that caused 10K$ fine Pirker is defending it of course

www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZnJeuAja-4

Stadium Drones: Are Fans In Danger? Article for reading


Here is NTSB ruling which says anything that flies needs a license I wont be surprised if we follow suit, coz it's easy to copy you see, coz HIGHER civilisation would done all the thinking isn't it ?

If that happens these will require license too, but then remember what i talked about 'Free Sprit''

Yup 

But Gusty Saheb, the future is not looking too rosy. Whereas in India there will always be a way around, we would be subject to harassment and in the event of any accident could be in big trouble.

Maybe..........time for boats?

@sanjayrai55
No sir.
Time for planes. HYDRO-planes.

I thought that $10k fine has since been quashed by the Judge...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U8iHn_2l0U

This guy is playing New York sized Ping Pong! :O :O :O

This video involved where a model airplane crashed with a real one.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoZD9pczEVs&feature=youtu.be

When i read all posts.... i just feel i m still a "Lil Kid" in all this....
So i wouldn't mind calling u all "Guru's".

Can someone please help me in getting out my parcel from customs? Its a WLtoys V666 FPV MULTIROTOR. STUCK IN AHMEDABAD FPO.