hi
what shud be the fee for teaching rc flying?
is anyone there in this field ?
pls tell and share yr experience too
thanks

Quote from: amir on August 05, 2009, 12:08:46 AM
what shud be the fee for teaching rc flying?

Ideally it should be Rs 0.00 / hour. Assuming the student has his own airplane.

thats  a duty of an aeromodeller to keep its spirit alive, fee has no meaning for it, but when you are called professionally to some college/school to make students learn flying and u have to travel miles for it, then what shud be it ?

and also if students doesnt have his own plane

I am talking about training an individual not sure about seminars or demos... In my books hobby training/knowledge should be free of cost. The student should have his own plane/equipment. Like Sai said sometime before, if he has his money in the model then he would have a commitment and concentration to learn. That is his guru dakshana...

-Ismail

that i understand..
thanks

If you are doing it in your spare time, it is best to keep it free.  If it is taking you away from stuff that would have otherwise helped you earn a living, charge a reasonable fee.  If it involves spending money on things like fuel outside of your routine RC schedule, you have to at least recover that, otherwise you cannot do it for long.

Remember that demos is what brings more people into the hobby; that is the best way to give back to the community and help expand it !

I heard of some instructors doing it professionally in Chennai. I am not sure what they charge.

But if I was ever to learn flying, I would prefer to pay some amount of money like a "gurudhakshana" even if not asked so that instructors time and effort is valued. I tried my hand on a Heli stimulator at a veteran instructor's place. Its tough, so I can imagine the real thing.

hi guys
in uk its about £25 hour for profesional instructor.
any help?
I think you are looking at a reasonable hourly pay for someone who is qualified and expenses...ie insurance etc
regards
don

I met a person in bangalore (name cannot be specified for obvious reasons ), he his really really good at flying. He let me try his high wing trainer for 3 - 15 mins sessions for 500 Rs, which gave me a real experiance if I should continue in Aeromodelling or not. He also gave me a lot of hints and tips and literally answered all my questions.

He also said that If I were to continue taking training lessons from him then he would charge 6K for 60-15 mins sessions, considering the fact that, I will be using my own plane and radio of course. Thats 100 Rs per session. He also told me that he is going to teach me all the basic/intermediate flying skills. He also promised me no crashes during training that would save me a lot of money on the other hand.

The problem in Jakkur is the flying population is limited and there are very few people that are willing to teach whole heartedly. So the training sessions made sense, so you dont have to go and bug the already busy people training others to teach you training. But unfortunately he is mode 1 and I am mode 2. and I am still yet to get my jakkur flying license. . I have decided, I will take advantage of the SIM and the foamies and teach me flying myself

To answer your dilemma  Amir, if you are actually concerned about the transportation charges etc and fine with spending fuel on the plane / risk the plan ofr crashes (which you would anyway do on normal flying day), and you are not giving time from your professional obligations, just ask the school to take care of ALL the logistics like transportation, lodging, food etc.  This is what we used to provided to professors, industry czars when I used to arrange them for seminars. We If they made the booking, we used to calculate the highest fares and give them a check as "Token" money.

If you are going there for a regular session (I assume in the same city) then you can also ask the school to get R/C equipment, tools, fuel of thier own (in short, set up a 'Club') and you just go and instruct (need passion and commitment for the proliferation of the hobby, would standup and salute such person)   

All the best Amir!!

And Vinay, I  guess the different mode (2) would be depriving you to get help from one of the most helpful and knowledgeable person at Jakkur from training you!! It is the Emotional attachment one develops in this hobby which makes even we Indian to help others. I have spent my early Linux days, getting help only from people from outside. The jealousy and inherit tendency to be in the exclusive club makes most of the people of our country to not to help other and share knowledge or resources. I guess you would understand my last words

Very well understood 

Quote from: ujjwaana on January 19, 2010, 09:16:35 AM
And Vinay, I  guess the different mode (2) would be depriving you to get help from one of the most helpful and knowledgeable person at Jakkur from training you!!

If you instructor is mode 1 and you prefer mode 2, just go with a trainer cable setup.  In that setup, it does not matter if the master and student radios are in different modes. 

We dont have the same radios(RDS vs JR), and after flying the sim(G4.5 with wind speed settings at 15 MPH with almost all the planes), I am confident I can fly with least help.

Usually most people who offer "professional" training have trainer setup of their own.  They either have a dedicated buddy box, or a really old radio of the same brand just for student use

Quote from: sunk? on January 19, 2010, 04:24:48 AM
in uk its about £25 hour for profesional instructor.

Our member Deepak (b4ggu) responded on Facebook to the above message with the following.

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Hi Guys,

I am from Leicester in Uk and have been flying at Burbage Model Aircraft Club for 15 to 18 years. You will be surprised to learn how many expert aeromodellors are always willing to help newcomers absolutely free in UK.

I have learnt flying from very good instructors who are now good friends and we fly each others models some times too.

As I said earlier, this is a hobby and in UK most of us take it as a hobby and not a profession. Saying that the model shop has always some part time workers who need some work and money to invest in the hobby so the shop can introduce. I learnt Aeroplane totally FOC on my own models offcourse, but did pay £25 or so per hour at an introductory lesson to learn Helicopters.

We r professionals n charging 10K for 3 months including everthing u need to fly ie. Aircraft w/ Buddy box setup, fuel etc. ( all damages beared by us)

Pics enclosed. Training & my flying.
All the new students in last 2-3 months r solo now.

I guess 10K is quite cheap for 3 months tuition with aircraft and fuel supplied. There is a RC hotel in Greece I think that does a similar deal on daily basis for guests staying there. So here is a good idea for you, team up with a resort that has a facility like Ambey Valley

@@ron open a resort and boss u can team up with him. Great idea.

I am of the opinion, that if an instructor is professionally into aeromodling, then it goes without saying that a fee should be associated with the art of flying. The art of flying being from Nursery to class 12 and not just the basics of flying. A person who has learnt from one instructor will bring glory to his instructor only when his flying skills are very good. Basc flying will not bring the instructorthe appreciation he deserves.

Even when a hobby flyer teaches a new commer and nurtures him, I feel that it is the responsibility of the newcommer to do something for the instructor for the time and effort spent.

Sometimes, people learn the basics and then move on and finally when one day they are flying well, the whole world is told that they learnt to fly on their own. This I'm sure will turn off helpful people who teach for the fun of flying.
Wow long post.
Boss tussi great ho.

Quote from: b4ggu on May 04, 2010, 11:59:38 PM
I guess 10K is quite cheap for 3 months tuition with aircraft and fuel supplied. There is a RC hotel in Greece I think that does a similar deal on daily basis for guests staying there. So here is a good idea for you, team up with a resort that has a facility like Ambey Valley

Ya, 10 K is cheap with all the stuff provided and damage beared by them. BTW how many flights for 10k?

Quote from: Harveer on May 04, 2010, 11:42:44 PM
We r professionals n charging 10K for 3 mounths including everthing u need to fly ie. Aircraft w/ Buddy box setup, fuel etc. ( all damages beared by us)

Pics enclosed. Training & my flying.
All the new students in last 2-3 mounths r solo now.

And great after teaching support too. (Like after sales suppot  )
Models are really forgiving for the newbie. Flight characterstics are great for learning.
For a first timer the styro trainer is a great planeto learn on.

Quote from: vinay on May 05, 2010, 12:16:38 AM
Ya, 10 K is cheap with all the stuff provided and damage beared by them. BTW how many flights for 10k?

The best part about Harveer's training is that it is not the number of flights, he teaches the student to fly an aeroplane. The 3 months time frame is a time bond for the student so that he is dedicated to the learning process.

Quote from: vinay on May 05, 2010, 12:16:38 AM
Ya, 10 K is cheap with all the stuff provided and damage beared by them. BTW how many flights for 10k?

2 flights (@ the time of solo 2 flights + 1 solo flight) of about 10-12 mins. per session n 1-2 session/s per week. app. 45 to 50 flights in a span of 3 months & the 3 months time force the students to come regulerly. Some time, we train students after 3 months if they r not perfect ( without any charges).