should I file n FIR for my hunter drone #RIP

Started by Ribz, February 21, 2015, 12:12:22 PM

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Ribz

Two hours back I was flying my Cf hunter mini quad with full fpv gear from hobbysea and osd with dji naza lite (no gps fortunately, was using flysky t6 from rcmumbai,
Within 400m either it lost control or got drifted by air and flew away, I ran behind it, but it was very fast, I had my no. Written on the battery but no one called yet

My heart cries

But it's time to be practical, it could've hurt someone, am I supposed to file an fir?
Can someone cause me some trouble because of this?




parichya.gautam

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It hit an old woman carrying vegetables to make a stew for her new grandson, your quad fell on her like a projectile, she is in coma now.

People are hunting you down, I'm surprised you haven't got a call till now ( perhaps with the impact the number is un-recognizable )

... hope it doesnt happen, just kidding..

and good luck.

BTW how much did it cost ?
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sahilkit

 i almost though it was real  :giggle: and i hope that would never be the case.
Today might be a great and wonderful day. It depends on you.

saikat

open google maps and chart out the rough direction of flight and the approx range. and start
searching in that direction in a approx 15 degree arc. seek a few friends help

do it fast as time is of the essence here as the chances of someone seeing it in flight are high
and the faster you start searching the better your odds.

do not lodge an FIR yet ...


in future put your name and address on everything (there are more honest people
than dishonest ones .. )



SK1701

What sort of place were you flying in? Hopefully, it is not too populated. You could try finding it from the FPV feed (if it was active) as described here: http://www.rchelicopterfun.com/fpv-crash.html

Ribz

Was flying in DU cultural fest antardhwani, in du stadium, it flew south west and kept going, it was at a crazy height, couldn't judge the direction to go as video signal was breaking, 200mw system :( no idea how the signal can break if they claim a kilometer range,
already filed a complaint to nearest PS so that following was a result of natural obstructio, couldn't find it now where, I feel like killing myself :( :'(

asupan

Did you set the Failsafe mode in the controller.

How long did you fly and the battery life left.

Asupan

gunnu

@asupan failsafe only works with GPS..( return to home and land..)
ribz was flying without gps.. :banghead:

regards

Ribz

yeah, but someone told me that failsafe works without gps in naze and others, it doesn't return back, but does a safe landing on signal breakdowns..

a forum member, and my flyer friend pushpreet also lost his tricopter with the same radio,

i have figured out the flysky radios, both th9x and t6 (i was on t6) don't go upto 1km (though the seller promised me that, i'm assuming that was a marketing strategy) and you can though get a swappable module to boost range (only in th9x)

the copter just follows the last transmitted command and keeps going, though in my case i was on altitude unfortunately, so the copter maintained alltitude and kept drifting with that velocity

it goes upto 110kph and thus its pointless to locate it, was flying on a full charge 2200mah which gies it 15mins of flight, its way far and beyond reach, also i could see the point getting further but not losing the altitude

also don't fly 250's to high altitude, unless you're experienced with telemetry flights ..
the wind is capable to drift it significantly

anyone of you can provide a cheap efficient tracking system? it'll be great
how good are the gsm trackers?

sooraj.palakkad

I am so sad on your Loss Robin .

If you was flying with out GPS, then it is sure that the quad didn't flew away because of signal/ control loss - because under such circumstances, a Naza with out GPS will only fall down at the spot where connection is lost .

This might be due to wind - However it's not time to probe the cause for flyaway - Search as far and vast as you can - do you had a battery low voltage alarm ?

Any way you can limit your search to 1 -2 Km radius , as that is the max. range for your radio - at the moment the signal is lost, the copter will fall down - that is what happens if there was no GPS and failsafe .

If it is populated area, more chances are it is on top of a building or some thing - Might be a tree or anything, so that it doesn't get caught the attention of public, If it had a low voltage alarm , there are chances of people to find it (I found my flew away quad after hours of searching with help of low voltage alarm) .

Any way, the search can be limited to the 2 Km radius in the direction of flight (Should consider the wind at that time too !)

RC Hobbyist and an Aerial Cinematographer..

gunnu


K K Iyer

@ribz,
Feel sorry for your loss.
Had spoken to you for the first time only 2-3 days back.
Most likely on a rooftop, so may take time to be found.

Eight years ago, my first electric airplane, an own design bipe, which i used to dismantle and carry in a Casio keyboard box on my travels, was lost in Ratlam due to high wind and getting the plane between me and the sun. I left Ratlam on completing my job there without finding it. But some of my colleagues there ran a notice on local cable TV.

A month later, a peon from our Ratlam office, turned up to meet me in Bhopal, with a bagful of bits. Only one of the four wing panels was intact, and someone stole the battery, but i got the Receiver, ESC and motor.

It may take a while, but i think you'll get it back.
Here's wishing you luck.

sahilkit

Its heart breaking to see posts on lost quad-rotors, i nearly lost my model today as i forgot to install Snap-Click clevis and realized it after landing (1st sortie) when low battery cutoff kicked in  :( .

Reason : had to go to field on a two wheeler so the entire model was dismantled and taken in a box .

I think you quad guys should perform range testing, set up fail safe etc and do extensive testing.

Hope you will find your lost quad.

Sahil
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pushpreet

So sorry to hear about this Robin.
I was with you there so I know how upsetting it was.

After I lost my copter the same way, I have figured that these FlySky (and other chinese ) systems are crap.
If you have to use them, keep them as close as possible.

Fortunately, I have the TH9x so I will be buying a FrSky DJT module soon, you should do the same.

As far as GSM module based GPS trackers go, I heard good things about a few.
There is also something called the loc8tor lite, look into that, and if you do plan to buy any such module, do contact me, I'll order one for me too.

pravesh736

Sorry for ur loss.
It's a combination of human and tech error.
Don't use flysky Rc link for anything more than park fliers LOS. In city there is wifi and what not on 2.4 so high noise floor therefore range of 1 Km is not at all guaranteed. Regardless of what others are saying, set fail safe always. The rx has to note the pulse position first to tell naza when to autoland/drop. Otherwise it will follow the last command Sent from tx.
Gsm trackers are also Rf emitters and u need to keep them far from Rc rx and GPS or it is trouble again.
Hope u find it.

sooraj.palakkad

Just tested the behavior of NAZA Lite with out GPS on signal loss. And I am sorry, my previous post
Quoteat the moment the signal is lost, the copter will fall down - that is what happens if there was no GPS and fail safe .
was wrong .

The Receiver Outputs the last command from the transmitter until the Signal is regained - that means NAZA follows this signal .


PS : This is checked by switching off Tx while the quad is hovering - My quad stayed in hovering, as I haven't given any other I/P than Throttle at time switching off Tx .
I did this test in safe environment (Bedroom :rofl: ) - Don't recommend anyone to do this .
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arun.sreelakam

But i have encountred a similar problem while flying my plane.. was using a curred antenna receiver.. it was working fine when i switched on didnttested range and just thrown after giving 75% throttle was very fast 2200kv with 500gm model pusher..
In 50meters the receiver signal lost and suddengly it stopped all servos motor and everything and glides down...
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sooraj.palakkad

Quote from: arun.sreelakam on February 21, 2015, 09:57:06 PM
But i have encountred a similar problem while flying my plane.. was using a curred antenna receiver.. it was working fine when i switched on didnttested range and just thrown after giving 75% throttle was very fast 2200kv with 500gm model pusher..
In 50meters the receiver signal lost and suddengly it stopped all servos motor and everything and glides down...

I tested 3 - 4 times , by switching off transmitter while at 50% throttle , the quad did hold the last throttle value till signal is regained .
After that with help of friend, holding the quad in his hand, switched off Tx with a little aileron to a side - the quad continued on it's attitude to move in that direction, till the signal regained .

And Now - connected the Receiver channels to arduino and checked each channel output on serial monitor - the o/p is hold once the transmitter is switched off .
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Ribz

You're right Sooraj, it dint loose the altitude, and I feel like it kept following the last IP input, does that mean I have no hope finding it? With a full charge 2200 mah a racing hunter will be 30km away in 15 mins if it keeps heading the same direction

pravesh736

First thing is it won't fly for 15 mins on 2200mah(each motor flies at 3-4a), not going to reach 30kms away. It has to fly at 120 kmph to go 30kms in 15 mins, even a plane won't go that far.. It could max go for another 8 mins at about 5-8 kms away.
But I won't go more than few kms before hitting something. It's small form factor tricks the eye into believing it's very fast but it's not. All the best for ur search.

Shyam Hembram

Ribz.sorry for the loss.i too encountered the same problem with rcb7x which is why i lost my  quad.it flew to infinity and beyond and those chinese radios are a total crap,i suggest you to buy a good radio system
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subhashjk0508

few months back , i by mistake took my rcb7x for relaxed flying...... BOOM lost signal, no response. thank god the quad was coming towards me. crashed to my building. my HD camera was in the casing, so no damage!!

never trust a cheap system, just ordered a graupner!!
JK

parichya.gautam

i hope Turnigy 9xR doesnt have these issues ??
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pushpreet

Quote from: parichya.gautam on February 22, 2015, 03:58:12 PM
i hope Turnigy 9xR doesnt have these issues ??

Turnigy 9xR can accept modules, so if you are going to buy that, get a FrSky module, because the Turnigy module is just a rebranding of FlySky and will have similar issues.