The DGCA Strikes Back

Started by sanjayrai55, October 11, 2014, 01:56:02 PM

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Antriksh

Well said Sanjay Sir.
But we will keep aeromodelling alive because-

Very impotant thing told in this video is, If some one's life is in danger and we can help them by our machine we know it from inside.
Then what would be your answer?
1. Yes i'll try my best
        or
2.No DRONE(referring multirotors and fixed wing) are banned in India by DGCA.

Antriksh

One more incident to tell and discuss-
Last year in January 2015 we went to IIT Mumbai for participating in sp4mm3r.
Very disappointing thing happened to us-
We had 5 models(fixed wing) with all electronics in a big box.
also 7 robots with battery and all.
As we came out of our coach T.T. came and asked us that we'll hv to pay extra charges for our luggage.
Not even one police personal or himself T.T. asked what is inside the boxes?
While returning due to bigger size  coolly directly boarded our stuff in to train again NO SECURITY check!!
I was very disappointed to watch this. I saw that 26/11 movie and remembered that moment when some physio person started killing people due to week security system.

merin_83

Drone no more a duty-free item from April 1 also prohibited item

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/Drone-no-more-a-duty-free-item-from-April-1/articleshow/51210873.cms via @timesofindia


Hi Guys,
They are saying its a prohibited item ?? So shops can't sell drones now ??  :-[

Drone no more a duty-free item from April 1
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/Drone-no-more-a-duty-free-item-from-April-1/articleshow/51210873.cms via @timesofindia
thanks,
merin

mateen270

Just a thought.
Cant we work on a website like the FAA registration just to get the community together and give the DGCA a base? The registration could be free. Not like its compulsory but the Hobby community should acknowledge it and register themselves for the betterment of the hobby?
unfortunately im not a web designer :(

What do you guys think?


Mateen

saikat

just to give you some perspective .....

we are like a mosquito sitting on the back of an elephant.



mateen270

We are one fat mosquito that the elephant can't kill  ;)
But can still make a difference. If we start somewhere.

K K Iyer

@mateen270,
If you search on this forum for DGCA after about 12th Oct 2015, you'll get an idea of the efforts made by others.
I was perhaps the first to respond to DGCA, but then others even wrote to the PMO...
And made a lot of efforts.
Please do see.
If you have any new ideas or some really top level contacts, we'd all be glad to hear of them.
Meanwhile many others are already into the issue.
Regards


Rathi

On the topic of import of drones, i ordered a parrot AR drone 2.0 last year from UK and it got stuck at customs, they haven't released it till date saying they need special DGCA permit for clearing the item....
i think there should be a hobby lisence, just like a DL. Get the lisence, get anything u want from anywhere after that and establish guidelines specifing where there is a no fly zone. That should help the community as a whole.
Bolt 210
QJreaper 6"
taranis 9XD+
its either FPV or nothing.

merin_83

Quote from: Rathi on March 02, 2016, 01:52:20 AM
On the topic of import of drones, i ordered a parrot AR drone 2.0 last year from UK and it got stuck at customs, they haven't released it till date saying they need special DGCA permit for clearing the item....
i think there should be a hobby lisence, just like a DL. Get the lisence, get anything u want from anywhere after that and establish guidelines specifing where there is a no fly zone. That should help the community as a whole.
@Rathi thanks for the info ... Let me know if I can be of any help like signing a online petition .. Etc... And I have small 250 race quad ... But never take it to public places to capture video or photos.. Just fly at line of sight in vacant land .... It shouldn't be a problem rt ?
thanks,
merin

Rathi

i dont think that it should be a problem, i do the same anyway... but if cops come just talk to them normally and u should be fine  ;D they cant question u in vacant public grounds or private lands...
Bolt 210
QJreaper 6"
taranis 9XD+
its either FPV or nothing.

merin_83

Thanks... Hope fully there be a solution soon
thanks,
merin

Mohammed Naveed

Is it possible to fly a Rc blimp during a college fest in college campus? Will that land me in trouble? Just a thought!😀

chintal

Take permissions if the event is big
Rcmumbai.com
Passion is Airborne

shobhit17

#363
Well..... I am not sure what is the Aero Modellers Association of India is doing about it.... The Aims of the Association are as given below... But it appears they are not doing much or they are not keeping the general public informed of their interaction with the DGCA and other security agencies.  In my opinion it is time that the AMAI took serious steps to get the entire thing streamlined and if some sort of police record or other regulation is to be followed the AMAI must take the lead and get it resolved at the earliest.  Personally I feet let down by the senior members of the AMAI.  The best part it that the AMAI boasts of Air Chief Marshal AY Tipnis (Retd) as the chief patron.... with such senior a member as the chief patron I am sure getting the clearances should be a cakewalk for the AMAI..... but then?????

The aims of the AMAI can be accessed on this link... http://www.amai.in/aimobj.php

Further the AMAI has an affiliate member in the name of WINGS INDIA which is again a powerful organisation.....

Well if anyone of the members are here in the forum.... please get the DGCA to give the guidelines ASAP as the blanket Ban is not only affecting livelihood of a lot of people, it is working as a deterrent to advancement of the hobby in the country...  This also lets police and other agencies harass a well meaning hobbyist.....

Aims & Objectives of AMAI as given on their website..........

   To create a sense of brother hood, co-operation, mutual harmony, love and affection amongst the members of the association and amongst the General public.
   To facilitate the existing member hobbyist to pursue their activities.
   To ensure safety of flyers and third parties.
   To introduce a code of discipline amongst the faculty members conducive to better quality of flying.
   To promote the growth of the sport and hobby of model flying and other associated activities.
   To organize events and such other programs which might earn cognizance, acceptability and respect at the national and international level of the body to corporate.
   To encourage suitable candidates to participate on national level and international competitive environments
   To promote universal fellowship in faculty of aeromodeling.
   To accept donations, grants, presents, gifts and other offerings (in the shape of moveable or immovable properties) and the same shall be utilized for the promotion of Aims & Objectives of the above association
   To make representation to various authorities of Government, Semi-Government on behalf of the members of the association.
   To hold and to participate in conference, meetings, etc, for exchange of ideas and discussions of subject of the interest of the members of the association.
   To assist newcomers to the hobby in selection of model/equipment and provide flying training free of charge.
   Association will invest its surplus, money and funds according to Sections - 11 (5) of the Income Tax Act, 1961.
Well I been into aeromodelling since I was in School....  and then been in the air for over 30 years.  Now looking to be back into aeromodelling full time...

shobhit17

Well was searching the FAA against aeromodellers in the Developed World......  the results are here for all to see....

https://www.faa.gov/uas/publications/model_aircraft_operators/

http://www.faa.gov/news/updates/?newsId=75599

The issue has been resolved by the FAA to a large extent.... i.e. apart from a rouge element for which the laws are good enough to deal and see that the rouge element tastes the jail environment for a while at lease.

Hope our AMA or the Wings were doing their bit to ensure the hobby is legal and safe.... maybe we start to call these people and ask them to step in......
Well I been into aeromodelling since I was in School....  and then been in the air for over 30 years.  Now looking to be back into aeromodelling full time...

Rathi

The topic of drones was brought to the Rajya Sabha's attention by a minister, H.P. Chaudry who said " flying drones by ORDINARY people is illegal in indian airspace. The DGCA is working on making guidelines on for use of drones. till these guidelines are out, no one is allowed to sell, buy or fly drones until special permission is taken/given.Till then it remains illegal. "
conclusion:
There is no definition of drones.
There is no general guidelines either.
Dont fly anything with a camera on it.
Bolt 210
QJreaper 6"
taranis 9XD+
its either FPV or nothing.

shobhit17

Very true Rathi...... but from our point of view.... the AMAI and Wings need to work with the DGCA to thrash out a worthwhile formula to get things legal..... hope someone out there is listening..... AMAI or the WIngs
Well I been into aeromodelling since I was in School....  and then been in the air for over 30 years.  Now looking to be back into aeromodelling full time...

vibranthobbies

We filed a RTI to know the status and here is DGCA Response attached.
Kumaran

shobhit17

That's welcome news from the DGCA...... well it seems that we are on the right track and the details are going to come out soon... maybe something like what the FAA has prescribed.  We may beed to register with the local police and maybe form a kind of a club to fly...

Well we could also ask about the expected timeline for the clearance to come as it is now over 2 years that the hobby is officially banned.  The second issue is of customs holding them for no reason when the dgca is not banning these toys.... we must ask this to the customs too.
Well I been into aeromodelling since I was in School....  and then been in the air for over 30 years.  Now looking to be back into aeromodelling full time...

sundaram

http://ultratechlife.com/tech/more-turtles-hit-airplanes-than-drones-stop-the-drone-fear-and-ignorance/

There are trillions of birds in the sky at all altitude and whose probability of hitting an airplane is 1000 times more than a drone.

Shehwar

Hi, i have a question, if i order kit from hobbyking , will i face problems from customs and such for ordering it??

i was thinking of ordering these.


http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__55569__Quanum_Venture_FPV_Deluxe_Quad_Copter_Set_w_DJI_FatShark_Afro_Parts_PNF_.html

and

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__89231__E_Turbine_TB_250_FPV_Racing_Quad.html


please let me know.

VIPIN_KUMAR

Thanks for the information Kumaran Sir.....

I had called DGCA some months back and they had told that they have sent the guidelines to respective ministry for approval..

sundaram


priyamraj5

What the Hell Guys ! I had won a Phantom 3 Standard from aliexpress Freebies its shipped from EMS its means I will not get it :(

sanjayrai55

And now..... it gets serious  :violent: